GF 3 months pregnant.. no money for abortion
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Makes more sense now. But guess not everybody is inclined to think about the long run effects. Who will care to think into the future? Solving the problem is the problem now. Future problems then solve them in the future. I guess that's how the threadstarter is thinking.Originally posted by rainee:Well, I think that sentence is referring to ppl who think of abortion as an easy way out to solve the unwanted pregnancies problem. For me, it is actually an easy way out, but it might bring up even more problems in the long run. So instead of running away, face the problem bravely and solve it for once and for all. -
He doesn't want to tell, neither does his gf. I think that as for now, any adults he trusts will do. But I don't think that's the best solution. Best will be he wakes up and faces the consequences.Originally posted by rainee:I still think that the parents should not be kept in the dark about this kinda thing. It is a big matter, concerning a matter of life and death.
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I don't have the habit of throwing anything away....Originally posted by shade343:The fact that you are here shows that you want to be here. Its just that your duality is so strong that this fact is hidden from you.
And since I'm ALREADY HERE, I'm one who have learnt to just make the BEST out of things....
Given the sh|t that I've been through, I'm gonna make life PAY me back TWICE as MUCH!! (AT LEAST!! <
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But if given a choice and I've not been born, I don't think I would even wanna start...? Hmm... But I guess that would also depends on where I was originally...?
ANYWAY, it's all HYPOTHETICAL... I don't even think we're GIVEN A CHOICE on whether we wanna be born in the 1st place or not...? -
I won't know, but that's irrelevant...Originally posted by rainee:Then how do you know that the baby which is about to be aborted doesn't want to have a choice to live?
Do you know what's the meaning of your original quote..?
"Those who are not against abortion, are those who have already been born into this world."
It means that people are selfish... And they would only consider killing another before they're born a rightful choice because they're not in the position themselves...
And my point is... Then again... Even if it means that they're in the position of being threatened with death before they've born... It doesn't necessarily means they won't wanna be killed...?
It's just like another way of asking your original reply question to me... If they ain't born in the 1st place... "How do we know the baby won't want a choice to live..?" It's also as good as asking... "How do we know the baby really wants the choice to live...?"
And mind you... Though you might think all these are rather 'hypothetical'... But they do have quite an IMPACT on the HAPPENINGS in this WORLD.... ESPECIALLY of 'LIFE & DEATH' ISSUES...
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Somehow I agree with this...Originally posted by M©+square:Counselling only can reach to a state of mild persuasion.
Let's keep it that way. I discourage usage of pictures to distract advisee's judgement.
Ultimately, he will have to make his decision and be responsible for the consequences.
Readers and contributors. Please keep that in mind.
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Relax dude... Just do what you need to do...Originally posted by neverendingtrauma:thanks for everyones replies ive been reading all.. im the one that feel i'll be a murderer in gods eyes and go to hell for a billion years, she feels less about it. if her psycho mother know will go crazy and send her back to her country so she definitely insist on aborting at private clinic.. and shes going polytechnic soon anyway. after this she said she'll take the pill.. is the pill the best contraceptive?
*READ THIS for you moralists who think the pooor baby not gonna have a shot at life
ive always hated life since sec 1 and wished i was never born. life is so much MORE sadness anger hurt boredom in school and work and NEGATIVE feelings than happiness. i always knew i'll never want to have children, !what a cruel forced CURSE to put them on this life and they are forced to study then work for almost all the years and after that still a 50% spend they will spend ETERNITY in hell! if you believe the bible, burning in hell for billions of years the pain and falling and regrets and pain never ending its too horrible a curse for anyone to have to bear and its not worth it putting a forced life here on earth since its going to experience much more negative feelings than happiness and be forced to eck out a job n life n conform here for what?? and after that 50% HE'LL END UP not believing in god and then suffer IN HELL for eternity. no 'happiness' on this life is worth all that. now the babies soul will just go to heaven 100% at least.
and knowing i'll be a murderer and go to hell and we still gonna do it how you think i feel? but at least the baby wont be borne to eternity. so dammed and doomed as if i wasnt depressed enough before
why so many ppl ask me tell my parents? for what? i said they wont allow us to abort cuz they christians and wont let me be a murderer but we need to abort so why you tell me to tell my parents? make them hate me more ah
If you need the $ and can't afford it, try to talk to the customer service or patient counselling service of the hospital... See if you can put the bill on a loan and also on STRICT CONFIDENTIALITY...
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NICE.Originally posted by peppercrab:My view here is that one should not bring a life to the world if you cant take charge of it...If these kids become parents they will not know what to do with their lives..and people will guide them according to their convinience.
So be mature we all eat eggs thats abortion.
Bring a life to give proper care and raize a good citizen...not just bring a child with no future at all and cry through out the life as pregnancy doesnt make you parents its raising a child makes you one. -
I have a partial agreement with this. I'm not against you for the abortion. But if you think and see it deem fit, hope you've properly talked and addressed the issue to your gf too. And that she's really ok and comfortable with it as a final choice. It's TRUE that the after maths of trauma is often FAR GREATER for a woman than us man. Pls watch her closely and take good care of her if abortion really happens...Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Physical pain aside, I don't think you have the psycological stress your gf will face after abortion. Some women, thinking that abortion will solve problems, instead sink into depression. You should go and read the newspapers, or just go any couselling centre. There are classified cases over there.
It's your personal view on life. I think many people also had the same feeling. It's only after some experience that you will learn to enjoy life, learn to appreciate life. Just because you don't have one doesn't mean you should deprive another one of doing the same.
With or without abortion, she will still miss poly education for a period of time. The calendar has changed. With abortion, how can you be sure that she won't sink into a depression? Depression can be long. For all you know, she took 3 years to recover, totally missing poly education. Without abortion and assuming she will carry it to full term, she will start her education around October. From what I know, some polys do conduct October exercises, for people who missed the JAE or could not get into the poly. -
Originally posted by Devil1976:
i tot it meant that only those born already can protest against abortion since those not born yet cannot protest or form opinions. therefore only those born can be against abortion.
I won't know, but that's irrelevant...
Do you know what's the meaning of your original quote..?
[b]"Those who are not against abortion, are those who have already been born into this world."
It means that people are selfish... And they would only consider killing another before they're born a rightful choice because they're not in the position themselves...
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Everyone have their own point and their own voice on this matter.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Makes more sense now. But guess not everybody is inclined to think about the long run effects. Who will care to think into the future? Solving the problem is the problem now. Future problems then solve them in the future. I guess that's how the threadstarter is thinking.
No one makes less sense except for those who gave one-liner or irresponsible comments.
Critical thinking and reasoning for this case is important.
In this sense, i'm glad that there are people who still cared about these issues and chose to stand up for it.
My question is, how long more could we discuss this through when the girl's is suffering?
Day passes by, we make comments and life goes by...
just by the click of 'NEW REPLY' and 'SUBMIT'; these two buttons are all we have to do to air our views.
There is no need to make opinions - 'THE' logical or right one.
Either pro life or pro choice...it's equally difficult for both of them.
This topic have come so far. I suggest we cease from all these 'discussion'
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Geee, paiseh. A bit too distracted when replying.
There is no need to make opinions - the logical or right one.
Either pro life or pro choice...it's equally difficult for both of them.
This topic have come so far. I suggest we cease from all these 'discussion'
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Mayi: There will be more of these topics.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Geee, paiseh. A bit too distracted when replying.
Preserve energy and chill.
To all:
It's good to know all of you guys are still thinking people.
I hope none of you will have to meet such situation at personal level.
Good luck guys.
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Maybe you should read again?Originally posted by hisoka:i tot it meant that only those born already can protest against abortion since those not born yet cannot protest or form opinions. therefore only those born can be against abortion.
basically a statement that is true but is meaningless -
1) Get a middleman
2) Use the midleman to help you tell bout the situation to your parents
3)1 set of parents at a time
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nay its just another correct way of intepretation. lets just put it as the ambiguities of languageOriginally posted by Devil1976:Maybe you should read again? -
the final decision is still up to themself, advice and suggestion are given. Its just how they want to find a solution from it..
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Ok.Originally posted by hisoka:nay its just another correct way of intepretation. lets just put it as the ambiguities of language
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any updates????
so hows ur gf nw.. -
Nice. One.
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i understand how u feel too. few months ago i tot i've make my gf pregnant too when we had do tt without using protection and i jus shoot inside. we were so scare after realizing wat we've done. we planned alot, give birth to it, abort it...tot during tt time we still not sure whether really have baby anot, but we werepretty sure to go for abortion since we still young, we cant affort to raise the baby. lucky it turns out to be nt pregnant.
be honest to ur frins, tell them wat happened and ask how much they can help u wif. tt's wat frins r for rite, to give u a helping hand when u r in deep shit. $500 / $50 = 10 friends, jus loook for 10 frins to borrow $50 bucks each not diff ba, if some rich even better can borrow more, but must tell them u borrw from others oso then say by when by when u can start returning them the money. -
we went for abortion yesterday at a medical center.. shes feeling fine.. physically and emotionally. we managed to get just enough money 1 day before the deadline. thanks for all the advice
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How could you do this kind of freaking things?
Lemme tell you, next time you and her have that thing, please do remember about the condom.
And anyway, $500 is hard to come by. Just tell your parents. I don't they will throw you out. They love you. Unless they are your foster parents.
HM. You can approach loansharks though......nah. Just kidding. Too risky. -
................................Originally posted by neverendingtrauma:we went for abortion yesterday at a medical center.. shes feeling fine.. physically and emotionally. we managed to get just enough money 1 day before the deadline. thanks for all the advice
GOD.
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may the baby rest in peace...