Lust or Love
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still the same girl, after 6 yearsOriginally posted by FadeToBlack:Can i ask how many guys actually love a girl whole-heartedly without no lust in mind?
Is it possible for guys actually not to have the slightest lust in mind?
Are all guys horny bastards? -
Yeah, he was out on a leash with his master. Ugly little critter
FeowFeowOriginally posted by 798:feowfeow meet mahai in real life?
this is new! 
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guys and girls are both horny.. no doubt.. but because of commercialised movies and stuff.. it makes it seems that guys are all about sex..
sex is both enjoyable and loved by both genders..
i believe most relationships start out with lust 70% and love 30%.. but as the relationships develops, both parties will understand the behaviour and needs of the opposite gender..
that's the point where the turning point of the relationship takes place...
- we are not suited for each other
- it was just lust
- i love u and want to develop it..
IMO, a relationship is made up of both. -
Oh... now i see what you mean...Originally posted by Devil1976:[/color]
Why does it reminds me of the question, "Chicken 1st or egg 1st?" What you've stated in your above post is a rather 'standard' human's strand of thoughts and study... Especially so in terms of empirical science... SCIENCE, as itself would implies... Probably would be studying on the QUESTION of 'reproduction' than 'love'.... In fact, you should quickly realise that 'love' is hardly a subject of its studies other than the more limited objective forms and definitions... And no no... I'm not saying science is wrong in stating love in those ways... But it's just one form of looking at things... And since 'reproduction' before the 'love' is the central subject of study, the latter is often seen as a 'by-product'.. Thus the question of "Chicken or egg 1st?" And this phenomena has been explicitly seen throughout human's history... How humans used to think of themselves (or Earth) as the central of universe.... Just because they've been studied 1st... (especially in philosophies...) In fact after all these years, though humans have slowly learnt that could be quite a big mistake... They often just repeat the mistake in different ways...
And it is INDEED TRUE that our 'intelligence' have allowed us to tag more meanings to 'love' these days... And in some cases, yes... Some 'definitive thoughts' are almost largely abused... But coming back to 'intelligence'... Isn't that also what makes you 'realised' today that love could be a evolved instinct of reproduction...? Rather than 'overly tagged' with meanings (common scientific belief), how about 'overly simplifying' of things...? (problem with empirical science studies) Especially during the 'early stages' of studies... Just seems to make things a whole lot simplier now... Doesn't it?
Hope you don't take all these discussions too personally... But sometimes to argue under the grounds of 'science', you've got to understand where it all comes from and where can it reach out to....
And now just a food for thought... Is 'love' really just an evolved instinct from reproduction to be belittled...? Or is it suppose to be an evolved instinct which could be leading us to somewhere further...? Think 'natural selection', 'evolutions', e.t.c.
There should be some sort of "lust" that will trigger you to go after a certain individual. After which, we progress and term it as "Love". -
nope, you hv not realize true love in ur life. sorry for you. true love is not bodily but spiritual. some1 who will feel the pain for you, shoulder ur worries and thru ur woes.Originally posted by zerocool85:guys and girls are both horny.. no doubt.. but because of commercialised movies and stuff.. it makes it seems that guys are all about sex..
sex is both enjoyable and loved by both genders..
i believe most relationships start out with lust 70% and love 30%.. but as the relationships develops, both parties will understand the behaviour and needs of the opposite gender..
that's the point where the turning point of the relationship takes place...
- we are not suited for each other
- it was just lust
- i love u and want to develop it..
IMO, a relationship is made up of both. -
Originally posted by DrTech:Oh... now i see what you mean...
There should be some sort of "lust" that will trigger you to go after a certain individual. After which, we progress and term it as "Love".
Never mind... -
really depends on the individual. though the idealistic love is really w/o the component of lust, as lust is a selfish motive. it means getting and not giving. love is giving, sacrificing, many times without hoping to get anything out of it.
then again, we all live in a broken down world, with the brokeness comes the decrease in moral standards... -
Originally posted by Devil1976: Never mind...
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I love my guy whole-heartedly. I never have the thought of having him so I can....ah-hem ah-hem with him.
Only to get married and have a close-knitted family.