Why girls are so petty?
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just wondering, don't need to point me finger. aunt agony how come become a breeding ground for debates le?Originally posted by Devil1976:When someone punched you in the face, would you think you're equally brutal by punching him back in the face OR you'll just punch him back in the face to defend yourself...? May I remind you that she's a GIRL....
Integrity, self-defence, insensitive or oversensitive... Whichever you wanna label it as, is somehow a rather subjective thing... But based on a more 'intrusive' ground (he made the 1st outwards move), I would say he should be more careful for a starter....? Of course, none of us are perfect beings, and we all made mistakes... But no reason for finger pointing since one has commited a mistake (however small you might wanna imagine it to be) in the 1st place...?
and i wouldn't punch back, tried and proven.
we're all human beings. when we do something extreme, we all will (probably) feel a sense of guilt.. thinking.. "maybe, i shouldn't go that far..? maybe.."
and being a girl does not justify everything.
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Originally posted by soulness:oh well, im seeking help
not here to listen to some lecture or nag
thanks for helping(not?)
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'Finger pointing' wasn't referring to you... Debates are everywhere.. It just depends on what you debate about... If you can't convince, how would you expect one to heed your course of advice in the 1st place?Originally posted by Ito_^:just wondering, don't need to point me finger. aunt agony how come become a breeding ground for debates le?
and i wouldn't punch back, tried and proven.
we're all human beings. when we do something extreme, we all will (probably) feel a sense of guilt.. thinking.. "maybe, i shouldn't go that far..? maybe.."
and being a girl does not justify everything. nor a guy.
You won't punch back doesn't mean others won't punch back lah.... What I was saying is no matter you 'siam' / punch out / cry out/ whatever.... There would be a REACTION... And everybody's DIFFERENT....
Hahaha... On the CONTRADICTORY to YOUR belief... Not everybody would feel much sense of guilt... Like you've added... It's just 'probably'....?
Point to note: When you make a mistake, and HOPE to be FORGIVEN.... Being FORGIVEN is a PRIVILEDGE... NOT an ENTITLEMENT.... And from the start of this thread till now... The topic-starter doesn't seems to be such an apologetic guy at all.... Maybe just bits of frustrations and confusions.. He might be behaving that way because he's still quite young... I asked for his age but he didn't reply on that...
Are all these in the thread DEBATES...? In a sense, YES....
How can you help someone when....
1. The person never listed what sort of help he want?
2. Isn't listening carefully to what the others are saying or advising (biased reading mode)
3. Doesn't seems to deserve help at all? REMEMBER. In here, 'help' is a PRIVILEDGE not ENTITLEMENT. With an attitude like his, even if his 'friend' forgive him... I don't see why she would bother keep a 'friend' with such an attitude...
4. He thinks he deserves not only criticism? Personally, I think he DESERVES so much MORE.... -
I didn't follow this thread.Originally posted by Devil1976:READ your TOPIC AGAIN.
You 'attacked' her and she 'reacted'.
Okay, now what 'help' you want?
But from treadstarter's tone, he's defensive and i agree 'playing victim.' -
if u read thru the post from the start u realised as the debate progress i eventually admitted my mistake already.Originally posted by M©+square:I didn't follow this thread.
But from treadstarter's tone, he's defensive and i agree 'playing victim.' -
the "help"= suggestions or advice on wat to doOriginally posted by Devil1976:READ your TOPIC AGAIN.
You 'attacked' her and she 'reacted'.
Okay, now what 'help' you want?
of coz she reacted, if not, i wont be here right? -
At the point of time let me refresh my statusOriginally posted by Devil1976:Precisely my point...
You couldn't be helped if you just wanna 'play victim'... In fact, it certainly buffers my intelligence to figure what sort of 'help' you might require...?
As of my previous posts... If one made a mistake and realise it, it might just be genuinely a human's nature to error from time to time...
But if one commit a mistake and can afford to make such a LUXURIOUS EXCUSE for HIMSELF... Even in an attempt to turn the table around to the other party (on a generalised level).... All I can say is GOOD LUCK to you....?
Actually you need not us to tell you of what you already know deep within yourself... If you really think you're 'right' on your grounds, would you even wanna come out during an outing as yourself and stand for your 'point'?
YOU DECIDE
STATUS: I ADMIT MY MISTAKE
What i want is to hear advice and suggestion on what to do next to "save" this friendship
What i Have done: APOLOGISED many times alredy, Sent card, email to her to say sorry etc. Also buy things already
So other than all these, im more interested in WHAT ELSE CAN I DO?
I alreayd know is my mistake and i apologised and she still behave the same. And its comign to 6th week already.
What can i do???
Whether lucxurious excuse or wat, the fact taht i ADMIT MY MISTAKE show that now im focusing on saving the friendship. Mr DEVIL, is that ok with u?
Mods can try to focus on how to help me? as i already KNOW i made a mistake.
Yeah i deserved it
im trying to salvage the friendship now
And YES I also open to criticism but after that can tell me wat to do??Thanks alot -
something to add here
i didnt insist i was RIGHT
in fact i apologised to her already
but she still cannot forgive, thats wat bothering me
SO guys, what else can i do? i did many thigns already
Is that clear enough now? -
Mr DEVILOriginally posted by Devil1976:'Finger pointing' wasn't referring to you... Debates are everywhere.. It just depends on what you debate about... If you can't convince, how would you expect one to heed your course of advice in the 1st place?
You won't punch back doesn't mean others won't punch back lah.... What I was saying is no matter you 'siam' / punch out / cry out/ whatever.... There would be a REACTION... And everybody's DIFFERENT....
Hahaha... On the CONTRADICTORY to YOUR belief... Not everybody would feel much sense of guilt... Like you've added... It's just 'probably'....?
Point to note: When you make a mistake, and HOPE to be FORGIVEN.... Being FORGIVEN is a PRIVILEDGE... NOT an ENTITLEMENT.... And from the start of this thread till now... The topic-starter doesn't seems to be such an apologetic guy at all.... Maybe just bits of frustrations and confusions.. He might be behaving that way because he's still quite young... I asked for his age but he didn't reply on that...
Are all these in the thread DEBATES...? In a sense, YES....
How can you help someone when....
1. The person never listed what sort of help he want?
2. Isn't listening carefully to what the others are saying or advising (biased reading mode)
3. Doesn't seems to deserve help at all? REMEMBER. In here, 'help' is a PRIVILEDGE not ENTITLEMENT. With an attitude like his, even if his 'friend' forgive him... I don't see why she would bother keep a 'friend' with such an attitude...
4. He thinks he deserves not only criticism? Personally, I think he DESERVES so much MORE....
so u are saying i don deserve help from u guys?
so u chasing me out of this forum ?
is that the majority idea, i will do
sorry for everythign guys
didnt know posting for help can made me be a hateful person -
thats my feeling about the whole matter.Originally posted by skid:everyone including you're friends criticise you and you think they're all wrong? So basically your topic was just looking for someone to agree with you....pat you on the back and say "aww, poor fellow". -
haih
ok lah nvm
i have communication problem i guess
even u guys misunderstood my intention
anyway for those posted(regardless useful or useless) thanks!
i already lost a friend, and im sad
im not asking ppl to agree with me
i just trying to find ways to salvage
i dont mind u guys kick me, punch me or wallop me
as long as i can save that friendship
im more concern abt that friend though..
who wrong, who right already not important..
anyway ive already apologise and u guy don need to agree with me
even if she is really petty, i STILL WANT THIS FREN...
at this point, im already admitted im guilty
i hope to hear advice fr u guys with alot of expereince
Mr DEVIL, hope u understand... i really at my wits end, otherwise i wont post here
pls guide me... thanks -
How old are you...? Why would you bother SO MUCH about such a 'friend'....?Originally posted by soulness:haih
ok lah nvm
i have communication problem i guess
even u guys misunderstood my intention
anyway for those posted(regardless useful or useless) thanks!
i already lost a friend, and im sad
im not asking ppl to agree with me
i just trying to find ways to salvage
i dont mind u guys kick me, punch me or wallop me
as long as i can save that friendship
im more concern abt that friend though..
who wrong, who right already not important..
anyway ive already apologise and u guy don need to agree with me
even if she is really petty, i STILL WANT THIS FREN...
at this point, im already admitted im guilty
i hope to hear advice fr u guys with alot of expereince
Mr DEVIL, hope u understand... i really at my wits end, otherwise i wont post here
pls guide me... thanks
Anyway, MANY ADVICES have already been DESPATCHED to you throughout the thread... Go DIGEST IT YOURSELF... (That's what I meant I said you wasn't listening...) -
Originally posted by soulness:haih
ok lah nvm
i have communication problem i guess
even u guys misunderstood my intention
anyway for those posted(regardless useful or useless) thanks!
i already lost a friend, and im sad
im not asking ppl to agree with me
i just trying to find ways to salvage
i dont mind u guys kick me, punch me or wallop me
as long as i can save that friendship
im more concern abt that friend though..
who wrong, who right already not important..
anyway ive already apologise and u guy don need to agree with me
even if she is really petty, i STILL WANT THIS FREN...
at this point, im already admitted im guilty
i hope to hear advice fr u guys with alot of expereince
Mr DEVIL, hope u understand... i really at my wits end, otherwise i wont post here
pls guide me... thanksOriginally posted by Devil1976:Point to note: When you make a mistake, and HOPE to be FORGIVEN.... Being FORGIVEN is a PRIVILEDGE... NOT an ENTITLEMENT....
If you've done your part, you've done your part... Your case is a CONCRETE CASE... In other words, NO misunderstandings to clear.....
Whether to keep this friend is not up to us to decide... It's really up to her to decide.... -
People are kind enough to tell you the truth. But you took it as personal attacks and criticisms.
Maybe you're not misunderstood...you made yourself to be misunderstood. -
i have tried those, but to no availOriginally posted by Devil1976:How old are you...? Why would you bother SO MUCH about such a 'friend'....?
Anyway, MANY ADVICES have already been DESPATCHED to you throughout the thread... Go DIGEST IT YOURSELF... (That's what I meant I said you wasn't listening...)
thing remained pretty much the same
it kinda frustrates me
hope u guys understand -
i care so much becoz i like herOriginally posted by Devil1976:How old are you...? Why would you bother SO MUCH about such a 'friend'....?
Anyway, MANY ADVICES have already been DESPATCHED to you throughout the thread... Go DIGEST IT YOURSELF... (That's what I meant I said you wasn't listening...)
now i cant even be her fren
thats wat troubling me
how sad... -
well, to be honest u know we've been trying to help u. how it ended up being 5 pages of whether im a boy or a girl, i don't know.
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Klang Association syndromeOriginally posted by HENG@:well, to be honest u know we've been trying to help u. how it ended up being 5 pages of whether im a boy or a girl, i don't know. -
Originally posted by HENG@:well, to be honest u know we've been trying to help u. how it ended up being 5 pages of whether im a boy or a girl, i don't know.
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kam siah.Originally posted by M©+square:
btw i ever saw u in outings b4 or not? -
Yes, that's my point. You like her. Why didn't you say so in the 1st place?Originally posted by soulness:i care so much becoz i like her
now i cant even be her fren
thats wat troubling me
how sad...
How old are you..?
Going after a girl you're interested in... Frustrations often won't get you too far..
You still don't understand now, do you?
Whatever's happening to you is because of you've done.. You can't change your past but only shape your future...
Give her time to make her decision... You're still a far leap from your target... Like you've said, you're not even friends... If you still hold a chance or she's interested in you enough, you'll naturally be forgiven... Otherwise, not much point for you to cry over spilled milk also... -
Hey guys
Some updates here..
She has started talking to me again
Seem abit friendlier already
But somehow still dont feel the same as before lar
Am i expecting too much?
maybe i shld just relax abit and not rush things -
Yes, you should not be rushing things at your current status.Originally posted by soulness:Hey guys
Some updates here..
She has started talking to me again
Seem abit friendlier already
But somehow still dont feel the same as before lar
Am i expecting too much?
maybe i shld just relax abit and not rush things