Suicide, too dramatic?
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Some people think death is the answer. No biggie, everyone has their limitations. But what makes you crack to that point? Would it be too much criticism from the people you love? Consistent reminders of your bad past (if you had one)? Always told your incorrigible, never-changing? etc? Share.
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when there is nothing in the living world that is holding me back...and nothing for me to cherish..
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Someone Once told me:
Suicide is Such a Scary deed that needs bravery to do,
If even such a scary thing you have guts to do ,
How Come you dun have The bravery to live On??? -
when i have no reason to live.
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not really bravery, but it is a way to release all those pent-up stress, although a very bad way to do that.Originally posted by snobbish:Someone Once told me:
Suicide is Such a Scary deed that needs bravery to do,
If even such a scary thing you have guts to do ,
How Come you dun have The bravery to live On??? -
In this case siltting wrist would actually be a better way to release than suicide. IMO suicide is stupid. BUt dun go siltting your wrist because I say so, instead try to do someother things that can help you 'release'.
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people cut/SI to release and try to keep themselves alive.Originally posted by Eternal-fire:In this case siltting wrist would actually be a better way to release than suicide. IMO suicide is stupid. BUt dun go siltting your wrist because I say so, instead try to do someother things that can help you 'release'.
most people who SI DONT wanna commit suicide
the whole point of SI-ing is so that they will keep themselves from killing themselves.
doesnt make sense??
guess it wont, unless you have been there youself.
suicide...thats when all's lost.
i guess...
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later dont die but get brain damage even worse...Originally posted by maggot:Slight headache nia then a bit sleepy then collapse and finally die
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Really meh... I heard a lot of people have killed themselves through SI... ie use SI as a means to suicide. eg they slit their wrists too much and too deep and don't stop the bleeding. But yeah... I heard of people who SI just because they think they are too "coward" to die... to these people I just have to say... it's not a question about cowardice at all... please don't SI just as an alternative to suicide... neither are good options at all..Originally posted by udontknowme:people cut/SI to release and try to keep themselves alive.
most people who SI DONT wanna commit suicide
the whole point of SI-ing is so that they will keep themselves from killing themselves.
SI takes courage, but it's not good courage at all.. Greater courage is when you can overcome these urges to cut. If you feel pain, have the courage to find something constructive to do with it... let it out in some other form... not SI... don't internalise it and don't be so harsh about yourselves.. -
Sometimes the emotional/mental pain is really too much to bear and have to use physical pain to sort of balance/justify it.
Whether the sucide attempt is successful or not, is not important. -
I would always give the suicidee benefit of doubt that there's a very good reason for him/her to give up.Originally posted by AshedAnna:Some people think death is the answer. No biggie, everyone has their limitations. But what makes you crack to that point? Would it be too much criticism from the people you love? Consistent reminders of your bad past (if you had one)? Always told your incorrigible, never-changing? etc? Share.
But of cos, like many will say. There's always ways of solving problems, he/she just got to say and help will come.
Like the JC boy who commited suicide just because he thinks his penis was small.
Suicide is not the answer. But we don't have the answer to his mental problem as well. We are not him. We don't know how he felt.
We are irresponsible with our words.
Suicidees are irresponsible with their lives.(?)
Case by case basis.
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What's SI?
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SI = self injury
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yes. there are a lot of people who kill themselves by SI-ing. however, there are more who SI to keep themselves alive. doesnt make sense eh?? people who SI are NOT too coward to die. if only it was easy to understand these people's mind...Originally posted by xXStormFallXx:Really meh... I heard a lot of people have killed themselves through SI... ie use SI as a means to suicide. eg they slit their wrists too much and too deep and don't stop the bleeding. But yeah... I heard of people who SI just because they think they are too "coward" to die... to these people I just have to say... it's not a question about cowardice at all... please don't SI just as an alternative to suicide... neither are good options at all..
SI takes courage, but it's not good courage at all.. Greater courage is when you can overcome these urges to cut. If you feel pain, have the courage to find something constructive to do with it... let it out in some other form... not SI... don't internalise it and don't be so harsh about yourselves..
"How you hurt yourself on the outside to try to kill the thing on the inside"
- girl, interrupted
thing about SI-ing is that it is actually addictive. so once people start, chances are, they will do it again once they are in too much pain.
SI takes courage?? i dont think so. most people feel numb when they do it.
"It takes courage to live—courage and strength and hope and humor."
-Jerome Fleischman
takes MORE than just courage to stop SI-ing. a lot more.
and hope???
"That's the thing about depression: A human being can survive almost anything, as long as she sees the end in sight. But depression is so insidious, and it compounds daily, that it's impossible to ever see the end. The fog is like a cage without a key."
-Elizabeth Wurtzel -
Prozac Nation...impressive.
Actually it becomes dangerous when SI becomes a habit. People always tell you channel the energy elsewhere don't anyhow cut yourself...like its so easy like that. Then they always hate the person who dies because they say the person is selfish...but maybe they just kanna until jialat jialat and they dun wanna kanna anymore...maybe the people who give them the sht is the selfish ones..dunno who got experience that kind of thing before? -
SI, whether its already a habit, or just the first time, or doing it for fun because its the 'cool' thing to do is always dangerous.Originally posted by AshedAnna:Prozac Nation...impressive.
Actually it becomes dangerous when SI becomes a habit. People always tell you channel the energy elsewhere don't anyhow cut yourself...like its so easy like that. Then they always hate the person who dies because they say the person is selfish...but maybe they just kanna until jialat jialat and they dun wanna kanna anymore...maybe the people who give them the sht is the selfish ones..dunno who got experience that kind of thing before?
people who have never gone through it themselves will never know how it feels. i guess i cant blame people for telling SI-ers to just channel their anger and frustration elsewhere. i mean, who the hell wont be angry or scared when they know someone is SI-ing??
people who SI/commit suicide dont usually do it because of someone. maybe indirectly, someone caused it. thing is, its usually an accumulation of a whole lot of shit and it might be because of one incident that is the final straw. its never because of one incident or one person alone that makes a person SI or commit suicide...
and people who do stuff like that usually blame themselves...at least i know a lot of poeple do... -
I can tell it is difficult to stop SIing... if it helps, I used to SI too but was stopped in the earlier stages, before it got to worse, as I had someone to talk to about it...
I guess the urges vary among different people... it depends on the trigger I guess, n how much you can take...
Just to clarify right...The comment about being too "coward" to die was something I heard from a friend... she said she cut herself and was suicidial, but the only thing stopping herself from actually suicide was that she was too "coward"... her own words... not trying to judge people who SI and people who commit suicide...
Welll... I got the following from a website and I hope it helps for anyone contemplating suicide:
Suicide is not usually successful.
You know a guaranteed way? Ask the 25yr old who tried to electrocute himself. He lived. But, both of his arms are gone.
What about jumping? Ask John. He used to be intelligent, with an engaging sense of humor. That was before he leapt from a building. Now, he's brain damaged and will always need care. He staggers and has seizures. He lives in a fog. But, worst of all, he knows he used to be normal.
What about pills? Ask the 12yr old with extensive liver damage from an overdose. Have you ever seen anyone die of liver damage? You turn yellow. It's a hard way to go.
What about a gun? Ask the 24yd old who shot himself in the head. Now he drags one leg, has a useless arm and has no vision or hearing on one side. He lived through his "foolproof" suicide.
You might too. But .. who will clean your blood off the carpet or scrape your brains from the ceiling? Commercial cleaning companies may refuse the job -- but someone has to do it. Who will cut you down from where you hung yourself, or identify your bloated body after you've drowned? Your father? Your mother? Your sister or brother? The carefully worded "loving" suicide note is of no help. Those who loved you will never completely recover. They'll feel regret and an unending pain.
Suicide is contagious. Look around your family. You do have other choices. There are people you can help you through this crisis. Call a hotline. Call a friend. Call a doctor or hospital. Call the police. They will tell you there's hope. Maybe in a phone call this weekend. But what you're seeking could be just a minute, a month, or a day away.
You say you don't want to be stopped? Still want to do it? Well, then, I may see you in the psychiatric ward later. And we'll work with whatever you have left.
If you are reading this, steal it and put it in your site too. If you're seriously considering this permanent solution to a temporary problem, please find help. This isn't the way to go, you may think that everyone would just be better off without you, but have you ever seen a family who has lost a loved one to suicide? They're messed up, the parents usually get divorced, the siblings never talk to each other. This not only ends your life, it changes the lives of others around you, but not in a good way. There are people who love you, and people who have been through the same things as you, even though it may not seem like it at times. So please, seek help.
And I hope you have realized; Suicide's not the way out. there are so many other safer ways of dealing with your problems. Maybe you think it's easier to just die. But think of what you are giving up. you're leaving your family, friends, and all the people who care about you and love you. And maybe you're not even that old yet, you have to experience life, find true love, that kind of stuff. Killing yourself isn't going to help. That's just running away from your problems, it's not solving anything, it's not making it better.
I know i can't convince you to not commit suicide, but just please think about everything a little before you do anything.
There's always someone who will be there for you to talk things through even if it seems like no one is there for you. Everything will get better, and it will be okay.
So whenever you are going to pick up that knife, or razor, just think about all the people you are leaving behind, all the memories, and all the good times.
I guess sometimes everybody feels like they want to die at lease once in their life. And you think there is no other way, just read this over.
Remember:
You live to have fun, and joke around ;; Not to be depressed. I know depression isn't an easy thing to get over, but it is possible .. ? Please read this all it may change your live for ever? please put this on your site so others can read it too!
what about all the hot boys/girls youÂ’ll miss, growing up, having kids, a husband/wife? being a grandmother/father, honestly to die at this age is not the answer.
YOU ONLY GET ONE CHANCE AT LIFE, IF YOU DECIDE TO KILL YOURSELF THERE IS NO COMING BACK -
Originally posted by xXStormFallXx:
gracias.
I can tell it is difficult to stop SIing... if it helps, I used to SI too but was stopped in the earlier stages, before it got to worse, as I had someone to talk to about it...
I guess the urges vary among different people... it depends on the trigger I guess, n how much you can take...
Just to clarify right...The comment about being too "coward" to die was something I heard from a friend... she said she cut herself and was suicidial, but the only thing stopping herself from actually suicide was that she was too "coward"... her own words... not trying to judge people who SI and people who commit suicide...
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i agree.
well, yes. plenty of people say they are too much of a coward to commit suicide. but it could also be the guilt. guilt prevents many from killing themselves...
of course, there are tons of reasons as to why some people kill themselves and other dont.
as for that website thing,most people do not succeed.
few people actually manage to kill themselves.
most people just attempt suicide.
sad thing is, people who have attempted suicide once usually do it again...
but then again, many people i know dont actually want themselves to die.
they want whatever it is thats inside killing them to die...
they just want to get rid of the voice inside them... -
How you know it's a release? Have you been dead before?Originally posted by BeEtHoVeN:not really bravery, but it is a way to release all those pent-up stress, although a very bad way to do that. -
If you say that people ain't being fair to you (like they always claim), do you think that you're being fair to yourself like ending your own life for those selfish people who won't even care a sh|t about you?Originally posted by AshedAnna:Prozac Nation...impressive.
Actually it becomes dangerous when SI becomes a habit. People always tell you channel the energy elsewhere don't anyhow cut yourself...like its so easy like that. Then they always hate the person who dies because they say the person is selfish...but maybe they just kanna until jialat jialat and they dun wanna kanna anymore...maybe the people who give them the sht is the selfish ones..dunno who got experience that kind of thing before?
To tell you the truth... I've been there before... And NOPE, I no longer think about killing myself... IN FACT, I'm such a HAPPY PERSON now....
To kill myself because of those pathetic IDIOTS? TELL ME A BETTER JOKE..... -
as i mentioned, if a person can do such a scary thing like attempting death, why not he use this courage to live on. If dying\ so scary he also dare, biting on and facing life should be easier?
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It's not only about courage and logic..Originally posted by snobbish:as i mentioned, if a person can do such a scary thing like attempting death, why not he use this courage to live on. If dying\ so scary he also dare, biting on and facing life should be easier?
Most of the time they ain't in a proper set of mind to think... That's why it's IMPORTANT to INSTALL a STRONG WILL on yourself 1st if you find yourself having suicidal thoughts and tendency....