WRONG.Originally posted by snobbish:as i mentioned, if a person can do such a scary thing like attempting death, why not he use this courage to live on. If dying\ so scary he also dare, biting on and facing life should be easier?
Hmm.. Somehow I've had that thought before... But the fact is I'M ALIVE.... And NAY... NOBODY'S gonna take that away from me unless it really have to be....?Originally posted by mistyblue:sometimes that is the only solution to a confused and depressed mind
no one can really say who is right or wrong
and yes, it takes courage and being selfish
frankly, if I choose to die by my own hands, no one matters, even if I leave behind loved ones, parents, childrend or whoever. Cause I cannot care less about anyone else even if I bring them pain. I do have frequent fantasies of sucides and how I would end it all and enjoy the freedom. Sometimes it takes a lot of effort just not to think about it.
To some, its easier to die, never to even exists at all. Living is too painful.
try not to make light of these people and the pain they feel.
Hmm...most of the time it happens when one cannot see or bear to live tomorrow's life with their current sadness/depression. Sometimes, it happens when people watched too much movies and they subconsciously reacted to this form of behaviour to appease their own sadness/depression. But, nobody will have the courage to actually kill themselves unless they are already at their most desperate ends of their mind, and sometimes they preferred to kill others if they do not have the courage to take their own life.Originally posted by AshedAnna:Some people think death is the answer. No biggie, everyone has their limitations. But what makes you crack to that point? Would it be too much criticism from the people you love? Consistent reminders of your bad past (if you had one)? Always told your incorrigible, never-changing? etc? Share.
That's true, man. The thing is, people are always saying "why dont u talk abt it? Tell mee tell meee i can help u!!!!!" They always try to force out the problem, sometimes cornering the suicidal individual till he/she snaps. The pple who committed suicide have simply proven that they've probably exhausted every single bit of their energy trying to hang on, and can no longer live with themselves. On their side, they'll probably think that others are selfish for letting them live this depressed. Funny, that.Originally posted by mistyblue:sometimes that is the only solution to a confused and depressed mind
no one can really say who is right or wrong
and yes, it takes courage and being selfish
frankly, if I choose to die by my own hands, no one matters, even if I leave behind loved ones, parents, childrend or whoever. Cause I cannot care less about anyone else even if I bring them pain. I do have frequent fantasies of sucides and how I would end it all and enjoy the freedom. Sometimes it takes a lot of effort just not to think about it.
To some, its easier to die, never to even exists at all. Living is too painful.
try not to make light of these people and the pain they feel.
You want the answers to the questions; what and why am I in this world? Who brought me here (parents are only conduits)? Whatever for?Originally posted by AshedAnna:Some people think death is the answer. No biggie, everyone has their limitations. But what makes you crack to that point? Would it be too much criticism from the people you love? Consistent reminders of your bad past (if you had one)? Always told your incorrigible, never-changing? etc? Share.
Proven? Not totally true... Ever heard of 2 heads are better than 1...? Let alone a troubled mind who are confused much of the time... That's really the basis for people with depression comes about...?Originally posted by AshedAnna:That's true, man. The thing is, people are always saying "why dont u talk abt it? Tell mee tell meee i can help u!!!!!" They always try to force out the problem, sometimes cornering the suicidal individual till he/she snaps. The pple who committed suicide have simply proven that they've probably exhausted every single bit of their energy trying to hang on, and can no longer live with themselves. On their side, they'll probably think that others are selfish for letting them live this depressed. Funny, that.
Originally posted by FORGET-ME-NOT:Is an escape from the problem. I think is a coward deed. They are escaping instead of facing the problem.
Originally posted by AshedAnna:The pple who committed suicide have simply proven that they've probably exhausted every single bit of their energy trying to hang on, and can no longer live with themselves. On their side, they'll probably think that others are selfish for letting them live this depressed
all im going to say is, im glad you are lucky enough not to know how all that suicidal shit feels like...Originally posted by FORGET-ME-NOT:Is an escape from the problem. I think is a coward deed. They are escaping instead of facing the problem.
i think some people have no will to live, its not that they have no bravery to live on. they are so sick of life that they choose to end it because they can and they dont like life, not because they do not dare to live on.Originally posted by snobbish:Someone Once told me:
Suicide is Such a Scary deed that needs bravery to do,
If even such a scary thing you have guts to do ,
How Come you dun have The bravery to live On???
Everybody thinks differently...Originally posted by FORGET-ME-NOT:I will never have those thought. I scare of height so I will never jump down from high floor. I scare of water so I will never drown myself. I scare of pain so I will never take poison. There is no way for me to commit.
On top of that I think life is a mission for me, I must complete no matter how tough it get. I always look at those who are worst than me and I count my blessing.
But life is not a still picture... It doesn't always stay the same... No matter how long the dark tunnel may seems...Originally posted by coffeeortea:i think some people have no will to live, its not that they have no bravery to live on. they are so sick of life that they choose to end it because they can and they dont like life, not because they do not dare to live on.
which is why they say that if someone who used to be really depressed suddenly appears happy, it MIGHT mean that they have planned their suicide. basically, thats one of the warning signs of suicide...Originally posted by mistyblue:The menatlity of a sucidial person is very locked up and locked in. logical and normal reasoning does not always get through or make sense.
In depressive states of mind, all preception is altered. All the person feels is being pushed ever more towards the edge, feeling lonely and all is too late, nothing will matter and everything else is just more confusion.
Sometimes, being depress, the person looses the energy to even commit sucide and sometimes, people who "help" but did not fully follow through might send these people to their death. The "help" might provide the depressed enough energy burst to take action. Cause the mind is still locked in that mental struggle, but the outside might try to present a face of calm cause everything, every though is only bent on finding release and the answer to the relase is now easily at hand with the new found energy to act on the sucide. People who "help" might think they succeeded but all they did was to cause a greater harm. So these seemingly "happy" but internally depressed people commit sucide.
Till the day everyone had been in years of deep depression with no way out, then perhaps people would understand the difficulty and really, not take these depressed people lightly.
I guess my words are too misleading, what I am trying to state is that these guys are not really brave but the stress they are feeling till the last point of their life often became the main driving force to commit suicide. In a morbid sense, death=no more stress, unless you are telling me that you believe in certain religions whereby you will be judged even after your death, I fail to see why death is not a release from the stress you are feeling when you are alive.Originally posted by Devil1976:How you know it's a release? Have you been dead before?
You need not be judged. It's a 'release' with a high price to pay for. Everything you've got. Imagine having to suffer all this while and end your life from there. Then your life would be nothing but sufferings... Carrying on buys you a chance at something which could be so very different.... Sort of like your life paying back to you...Originally posted by BeEtHoVeN:I guess my words are too misleading, what I am trying to state is that these guys are not really brave but the stress they are feeling till the last point of their life often became the main driving force to commit suicide. In a morbid sense, death=no more stress, unless you are telling me that you believe in certain religions whereby you will be judged even after your death, I fail to see why death is not a release from the stress you are feeling when you are alive.