GF seeing her ex bf
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Thats probaly juz a joke and u wun know how much friends i haveOriginally posted by browniebaobao:ya, but only fools learn from ple who nv learn from their mistakes.
I'm not going to argue anymore with you, little boy.
[color=red]U seriously lack of frens, experiences and exposures. [/color]
porbaly more than u
and dun aim me cuz its pretty obvious that ur a feminist by ppl in this threads
u go about rantling and questioning the guy and overprotectiveness of women blinding urself from the fact that womens make mistakes too
i have statistic and living examples from friends who had really bad expereince with locals gals
as always u dun seem to have anything to back urself up
juz like telling the guy to constantly have trust in the gf when the gal's action prove otherwise
i've said trust without fundemental factors is pisa tower
learn to back ur claims and speechs with edvidences plz
abscent of this wun get u far no more how beautiful words one might have -
So what if you have statistics, testimonials and so called living examples from your frens as 'back up'?Originally posted by 0lala:Thats probaly juz a joke and u wun know how much friends i have
porbaly more than u
and dun aim me cuz its pretty obvious that ur a feminist by ppl in this threads
u go about rantling and questioning the guy and overprotectiveness of women blinding urself from the fact that womens make mistakes too
i have statistic and living examples from friends who had really bad expereince with locals gals
as always u dun seem to have anything to back urself up
juz like telling the guy to constantly have trust in the gf when the gal's action prove otherwise
i've said trust without fundemental factors is pisa tower
learn to back ur claims and speechs with edvidences plz
abscent of this wun get u far no more how beautiful words one might have
They are not your own life experiences.
Who dun know that they exist?
You will never know every little detail, the hidden truth, lies etc bcos they are not your own experiences. So what makes you think that your back up are 100% accurate and reliable?
So you think your so called 'back up' are relevant and strong huh?
So say whatever you like, coz I can't be bothered.
You are just making yourself a laughing stock.
I reckon that you are still too young and really need time to learn and grow. -
At the minimium i have statisticOriginally posted by browniebaobao:So what if you have statistics, testimonials and so called living examples from your frens as 'back up'?
They are not your own life experiences.
Who dun know that they exist?
You will never know every little detail, the hidden truth, lies etc bcos they are not your own experiences. So what makes you think that your back up are 100% accurate and reliable?
So you think your so called 'back up' are relevant and strong huh?
So say whatever you like, coz I can't be bothered.
You are just making yourself a laughing stock.
I reckon that you are still too young and really need time to learn and grow.
do u have?
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Not that I want to fuel the flaming war (I would love to just watch the flames burn). but I had to say something
0lala: Who or what defines what is right and wrong? THQ's girlfriend finding another guy might be wrong, but what about details?
He says he treats her good - What is "good", in his sense? His girlfriend might have a different mindset of what is "good", and that mindset appears to differ from THQ's mindset of "good". She found another guy she likes - who is to say she is wrong?
Are you to judge what she did was wrong? It is NOT always the party who strayed that is at fault.
And about your thinking about local girls:
Watched the 9pm that just ended? The one about the three different men and their lives, with the topic revolving around Marriage, Responsibility and Relationships?
If you did, you are just like Norman. You see the many bad experiences others have, and you are afraid to even try. Maybe you have tried, and got hurted. So? The wise learnt from the mistakes of the others? How about "The wise learn from others?" Does Sun Yat-Sen and his ten attempts at revolution say something?
browniebaobao: You officially got the label of a "Da Nu Ren". -
Originally posted by M©+square:[/b]Guys, your part as a contributor is to provide listening ear, advice, comfort and positive/objective viewpoints.
Please do not get personal over any topics.
I hope you guys will remain as worthy contributors.
Fights and debates of ethics are unnecessary since all are here to help.
ahem!Originally posted by M©+square:Hmm...
i figured out it's another Ding Shanben's kind of thread.
didn't want to give too much attention.
Good essay though!
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If ur in a r/s and u 2time den ur farkin in the shyt holeOriginally posted by binarynwitz:Not that I want to fuel the flaming war (I would love to just watch the flames burn). but I had to say something
0lala: Who or what defines what is right and wrong? THQ's girlfriend finding another guy might be wrong, but what about details?
He says he treats her good - What is "good", in his sense? His girlfriend might have a different mindset of what is "good", and that mindset appears to differ from THQ's mindset of "good". She found another guy she likes - who is to say she is wrong?
Are you to judge what she did was wrong? It is NOT always the party who strayed that is at fault.
And about your thinking about local girls:
Watched the 9pm that just ended? The one about the three different men and their lives, with the topic revolving around Marriage, Responsibility and Relationships?
If you did, you are just like Norman. You see the many bad experiences others have, and you are afraid to even try. Maybe you have tried, and got hurted. So? The wise learnt from the mistakes of the others? How about "The wise learn from others?" Does Sun Yat-Sen and his ten attempts at revolution say something?
browniebaobao: You officially got the label of a "Da Nu Ren".
If ur suddenly nt intrested in the guy,u tell him straight and go ya seperate ways b4 u hope on another boat
dun step ya feets on both boats when ur tied to one -
Ever thought that the girl might be afraid to break up with THQ?
No, I don't mean afraid as in afraid of losing her money-tree. Afraid as in the THQ-will-punch-her-right-in-the-face kind.
See? That is what I meant by details. When you don't know the details, don't infuse your own experience with the thread starter's and start pushing all the fault to the other party who has no chance to rebutt whatever the thread starter says. Not to mention, "experience" which are really just views from one side of a broken relationship.
Maybe you're got hurted twice - that's 0.000002% (Very rough estimation). Think about the other 99.999998% please. -
Which is why you don't see me giving advice.Originally posted by 798:ahem! -
What i simply dun understand abt TS is he already has doubts abt GF but yet went on to have sex & now she's pregnant.Originally posted by browniebaobao:even tho u are unhappy with ur gf, pls show respect for other ladies.
And now he thinks probably the kids not his becoz GF was unfaithful.
Hey TS, u also not clean leh........ -
in any relationship , it doesnt matter
if ur
20s
30s
40s
as not even the experienced can say if the person is mature /immature as love
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Got mah...Originally posted by M©+square:Which is why you don't see me giving advice. 
Originally posted by M©+square:Guys, your part as a contributor is to provide listening ear, advice, comfort and positive/objective viewpoints.
Please do not get personal over any topics.
I hope you guys will remain as worthy contributors.
Fights and debates of ethics are unnecessary since all are here to help. -
Originally posted by browniebaobao:[color=indigo]So what if you have statistics, testimonials and so called living examples from your frens as 'back up'?
They are not your own life experiences.
Who dun know that they exist?
You will never know every little detail, the hidden truth, lies etc bcos they are not your own experiences. So what makes you think that your back up are 100% accurate and reliable?
So you think your so called 'back up' are relevant and strong huh?
So say whatever you like, coz I can't be bothered.
You are just making yourself a laughing stock.
I reckon that you are still too young and really need time to learn and grow.
LEARN AND GROW .... hmmm thailand got a song LIVE AND LEARN quite meaningful song....... the threadstarter just email says he will go and study hard first will come back later. Anyway how old are you if u keep calling ppl young ? -
MOD. Pls stick to the topic forumites. Be reminded that flame is not encouraged in AA forum. Any post not directed to the topic-starter from this point onwards could be edited without further warning. Any debate would not be entertained.
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Chill it
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I didn't exactly go thru all 7 pages of this thread, but I did go thru a bit here and there....
Believe it not, there CAN be a normal relationship between man and woman, even if they were ex. At least it worked for me. Personally, I have a few ex who are very close friends with me now. When ever they have a prob is their current r/s they will always come and look for me for advices/company. I'll be frank here, I even had a married fren who come over to stay at my place once. It's just a matter of trust.
Be forewarned though.... Trust is a very vague subject. How much trust to have? Too much and the other party will take advantage of it most of the time. Too little will result in conflicts and jealousy.
Even though ur gf still meet up with her ex even though she complained to u that he's a loser, she might just be testing ur trust and how much confidence u have in her. Have it occured to you that she kept the outings from you because she's afraid that you might get jealous?
That's where the trust factor comes into play. How much do u trust her? Are u really sure that she did hanky panky with her ex in the first place? Do u have concrete prove? Those SMSes means NOTHING. If u think she's been unfaithful when you have no concrete evidence, you have no trust in her at all. There's no point in carrying on a r/s w/o any trust in it. What if she really remained faithful and yet you accused her otherwise?
Bottom line is, how much trust is there in this r/s? Sit down and trash things out with her. Abortion is the last resort.
p/s: sorry for being str8 forward.. but you come across to me as a very ignorant and egoistic guy. I know I shouldn't judge, but ask yourself this:
What isit that you are trying to solve? Are you trying shrink responsibility because of your own ego, or do u really love her and trying to make a r/s work? -
I think this will not last, I sugget u fark her first before she run off with her exOriginally posted by THG:actually i don't really know what to say. I treat my gf very nice and in back she loves me too but she sometimes says wat a fricking loser his ex bf is, that time her eyes must have past stamps that she loves him blah blah...but when i look at her sms quietly, i found her asking him out lah got alot of things to tell him abt her current working place and the ex bf reply in her sms that he still loves my gf alot. I mean if you say so many bad things abt your ex bf but you wanna chat with him and ask him out behind my back. This is not the first time olready and we quarrel many times regarding this issue. she told me it's been months she even bother sms him. Just recently i been checking her phone and almost everyday, they been sms to each other. Now she is pregnant and I am wondering who's child is she having? Mine or the ex bf one. Can anyone help?
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Originally posted by Haoz30:I didn't exactly go thru all 7 pages of this thread, but I did go thru a bit here and there....
Believe it not, there CAN be a normal relationship between man and woman, even if they were ex. At least it worked for me. Personally, I have a few ex who are very close friends with me now. When ever they have a prob is their current r/s they will always come and look for me for advices/company. I'll be frank here, I even had a married fren who come over to stay at my place once. It's just a matter of trust.
Be forewarned though.... Trust is a very vague subject. How much trust to have? Too much and the other party will take advantage of it most of the time. Too little will result in conflicts and jealousy.
Even though ur gf still meet up with her ex even though she complained to u that he's a loser, she might just be testing ur trust and how much confidence u have in her. Have it occured to you that she kept the outings from you because she's afraid that you might get jealous?
That's where the trust factor comes into play. How much do u trust her? Are u really sure that she did hanky panky with her ex in the first place? Do u have concrete prove? Those SMSes means NOTHING. If u think she's been unfaithful when you have no concrete evidence, you have no trust in her at all. There's no point in carrying on a r/s w/o any trust in it. What if she really remained faithful and yet you accused her otherwise?
Bottom line is, how much trust is there in this r/s? Sit down and trash things out with her. Abortion is the last resort.
p/s: sorry for being str8 forward.. but you come across to me as a very ignorant and egoistic guy. I know I shouldn't judge, but ask yourself this:
What isit that you are trying to solve? Are you trying shrink responsibility because of your own ego, or do u really love her and trying to make a r/s work?
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M©'s opinion :
What you don't see doesn't mean it don't exist.
You don't have to see to believe.
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There is alot of finger pointing here, if there is no trust in the r/s there is nothing to talk about. Everybody do made a mistake, to you is wrong but to him is right. Can't just point the finger at him or her as they should know what they are doing and be responsible. Communication is the key to the problem, nothing can be solve if both dun speak up. Hear-say is not a answer to all the problem as there are many thing involve in a r/s.
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Sorry, too long to read.
Can someone summerise what is being discussed here? Minus who says what?