Living their lives thru others...
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Pretty much what life is all about...? Imperfection?Originally posted by viciouskitty74:And here, is the reason of this thread.
How did all these bad apples been able to cook up such reasonable stories that can be believable.
Because they know of such stories of others. And using the stories of others, was able to make believe that by bringing such stories, they bring out the stories of others.
And my belief that some young ones in this forums, are merely looking for this stories, and then to stand there, point and laugh at those that are really sharing their stories.
There are those who arent in need of help, there are some who does. And there are some who only belives in standing there, to point, laugh and to give comments which they arent even able to do so in the face of others.
Just in one form or another....?
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To you it may not be.Originally posted by Ito_^:right.
and you guys should stay focus on one topics at a time in a single topic.
this ain't a crapbox.
To me it was.
Merely adding on to the crap already existing. -
Here is another example of living life thru others. Though in a much better sense.
Straits Times Interactive.
MARCH 19, 2004
Hope for childless as 15 offer eggs or sperm
'Surge' in potential donors after ST report on infertility
By Wong Sher Maine
EGG donor Karen (not her real name) winces when she recalls how she had to
fight her fear of needles to give herself daily hormone injections, but
smiles when she imagines the joy she has brought to childless couples.
The 30-year-old management assistant is one of a handful of women in
Singapore who has donated her eggs, and done it more than once.
In 2002, the divorcee went under general anaesthetic in January and June at
a private hospital's fertility clinic to have 31 eggs extracted.
She was told they were divided among three couples - two Singaporean and
one Indonesian Chinese.
She was not paid a single cent.
Karen wants to do it a third time at the Singapore General Hospital (SGH)
to help childless couples recently featured in a Straits Times report on
infertility.
In the past five years, SGH has come across only two walk-in egg donors.
When asked why she was willing to go through what many women would not even
consider, Karen said: 'What else am I going to do with my eggs? They are
just flushed away every month.'
Since the Straits Times report was published a fortnight ago, 13 men and
two women have walked into SGH and KK Women's and Children's Hospital to
offer their sperm or eggs. An SGH doctor described it as a 'surge' because
the hospital had just three sperm donors and two egg donors last year.
Both hospitals have patients queueing up for eggs and sperm, and they have
to wait up to two years. Figures were not available from the National
University Hospital, the remaining public hospital which accepts such
donations.
All the potential donors are now undergoing physical and psychological
tests to assess their eligibility to donate. According to Dr Julianah Abu,
an SGH obstetrician and gynaecologist who runs the sperm bank there, about
two-thirds are usually found to be suitable.
She added that the number of sperm donors, however, still outnumber egg
donors because egg donation involves hormonal stimulation and an operation.
Three potential donors, who had e-mailed The Straits Times asking how they
could donate their eggs, explained that their desire to help childless
couples outweighed whatever physical or emotional pain they would have to
undergo.
A 33-year-old single, who works as a journalist in Malaysia, said: 'More
than organ donation, which is about extending life, egg donation is
life-giving. I feel assured that the child will be specially cared for,
since the couple had to go through so much to be parents.'
A 26-year-old part-time student, who loves children, said: 'My heart goes
out to those who want kids badly but cannot have them.'
Karen said she equated egg donation with blood donation - she was simply
helping others.
She dismissed the possibility that her children could end up marrying one
another. 'The chances are so remote and anyway it is okay for cousins to
marry.'
She decided to donate her eggs shortly after she began divorce proceedings
against her husband, an aircraft engineer, at the end of 2000 when she
discovered he had a mistress pregnant with his child. They did not have any
children.
'I may never have the chance to marry again or have children but if I can
help other couples, why not?,' she said. She reckoned that since she had
good genes, with no family history of cancers or genetic illnesses, she was
a good candidate.
She was also determined to 'experience and live life to the full' after her
divorce, engaging in what she called 'dangerous activities' like riding
motorcycles, operating cranes, sailing boats and flying planes.
'Anything can happen to me. If so, I know I have done my part as a human
being in reproducing, though I may not have been the one to bear and look
after my child.'
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Copyright @ 2004 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved. -
Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Here is another example of living life thru others. Though in a much better sense.
Straits Times Interactive.
MARCH 19, 2004
Hope for childless as 15 offer eggs or sperm
'Surge' in potential donors after ST report on infertility
By Wong Sher Maine
EGG donor Karen (not her real name) winces when she recalls how she had to
fight her fear of needles to give herself daily hormone injections, but
smiles when she imagines the joy she has brought to childless couples.
The 30-year-old management assistant is one of a handful of women in
Singapore who has donated her eggs, and done it more than once.
In 2002, the divorcee went under general anaesthetic in January and June at
a private hospital's fertility clinic to have 31 eggs extracted.
She was told they were divided among three couples - two Singaporean and
one Indonesian Chinese.
She was not paid a single cent.
Karen wants to do it a third time at the Singapore General Hospital (SGH)
to help childless couples recently featured in a Straits Times report on
infertility.
In the past five years, SGH has come across only two walk-in egg donors.
When asked why she was willing to go through what many women would not even
consider, Karen said: 'What else am I going to do with my eggs? They are
just flushed away every month.'
Since the Straits Times report was published a fortnight ago, 13 men and
two women have walked into SGH and KK Women's and Children's Hospital to
offer their sperm or eggs. An SGH doctor described it as a 'surge' because
the hospital had just three sperm donors and two egg donors last year.
Both hospitals have patients queueing up for eggs and sperm, and they have
to wait up to two years. Figures were not available from the National
University Hospital, the remaining public hospital which accepts such
donations.
All the potential donors are now undergoing physical and psychological
tests to assess their eligibility to donate. According to Dr Julianah Abu,
an SGH obstetrician and gynaecologist who runs the sperm bank there, about
two-thirds are usually found to be suitable.
She added that the number of sperm donors, however, still outnumber egg
donors because egg donation involves hormonal stimulation and an operation.
Three potential donors, who had e-mailed The Straits Times asking how they
could donate their eggs, explained that their desire to help childless
couples outweighed whatever physical or emotional pain they would have to
undergo.
A 33-year-old single, who works as a journalist in Malaysia, said: 'More
than organ donation, which is about extending life, egg donation is
life-giving. I feel assured that the child will be specially cared for,
since the couple had to go through so much to be parents.'
A 26-year-old part-time student, who loves children, said: 'My heart goes
out to those who want kids badly but cannot have them.'
Karen said she equated egg donation with blood donation - she was simply
helping others.
She dismissed the possibility that her children could end up marrying one
another. 'The chances are so remote and anyway it is okay for cousins to
marry.'
She decided to donate her eggs shortly after she began divorce proceedings
against her husband, an aircraft engineer, at the end of 2000 when she
discovered he had a mistress pregnant with his child. They did not have any
children.
'I may never have the chance to marry again or have children but if I can
help other couples, why not?,' she said. She reckoned that since she had
good genes, with no family history of cancers or genetic illnesses, she was
a good candidate.
She was also determined to 'experience and live life to the full' after her
divorce, engaging in what she called 'dangerous activities' like riding
motorcycles, operating cranes, sailing boats and flying planes.
'Anything can happen to me. If so, I know I have done my part as a human
being in reproducing, though I may not have been the one to bear and look
after my child.'
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Copyright @ 2004 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.
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What is the connection between yr thread and this article? I getting more blur.... One conclusion. RIDICULATES!!!Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Here is another example of living life thru others. Though in a much better sense.
Straits Times Interactive.
MARCH 19, 2004
Hope for childless as 15 offer eggs or sperm
'Surge' in potential donors after ST report on infertility
By Wong Sher Maine
EGG donor Karen (not her real name) winces when she recalls how she had to
fight her fear of needles to give herself daily hormone injections, but
smiles when she imagines the joy she has brought to childless couples.
The 30-year-old management assistant is one of a handful of women in
Singapore who has donated her eggs, and done it more than once.
In 2002, the divorcee went under general anaesthetic in January and June at
a private hospital's fertility clinic to have 31 eggs extracted.
She was told they were divided among three couples - two Singaporean and
one Indonesian Chinese.
She was not paid a single cent.
Karen wants to do it a third time at the Singapore General Hospital (SGH)
to help childless couples recently featured in a Straits Times report on
infertility.
In the past five years, SGH has come across only two walk-in egg donors.
When asked why she was willing to go through what many women would not even
consider, Karen said: 'What else am I going to do with my eggs? They are
just flushed away every month.'
Since the Straits Times report was published a fortnight ago, 13 men and
two women have walked into SGH and KK Women's and Children's Hospital to
offer their sperm or eggs. An SGH doctor described it as a 'surge' because
the hospital had just three sperm donors and two egg donors last year.
Both hospitals have patients queueing up for eggs and sperm, and they have
to wait up to two years. Figures were not available from the National
University Hospital, the remaining public hospital which accepts such
donations.
All the potential donors are now undergoing physical and psychological
tests to assess their eligibility to donate. According to Dr Julianah Abu,
an SGH obstetrician and gynaecologist who runs the sperm bank there, about
two-thirds are usually found to be suitable.
She added that the number of sperm donors, however, still outnumber egg
donors because egg donation involves hormonal stimulation and an operation.
Three potential donors, who had e-mailed The Straits Times asking how they
could donate their eggs, explained that their desire to help childless
couples outweighed whatever physical or emotional pain they would have to
undergo.
A 33-year-old single, who works as a journalist in Malaysia, said: 'More
than organ donation, which is about extending life, egg donation is
life-giving. I feel assured that the child will be specially cared for,
since the couple had to go through so much to be parents.'
A 26-year-old part-time student, who loves children, said: 'My heart goes
out to those who want kids badly but cannot have them.'
Karen said she equated egg donation with blood donation - she was simply
helping others.
She dismissed the possibility that her children could end up marrying one
another. 'The chances are so remote and anyway it is okay for cousins to
marry.'
She decided to donate her eggs shortly after she began divorce proceedings
against her husband, an aircraft engineer, at the end of 2000 when she
discovered he had a mistress pregnant with his child. They did not have any
children.
'I may never have the chance to marry again or have children but if I can
help other couples, why not?,' she said. She reckoned that since she had
good genes, with no family history of cancers or genetic illnesses, she was
a good candidate.
She was also determined to 'experience and live life to the full' after her
divorce, engaging in what she called 'dangerous activities' like riding
motorcycles, operating cranes, sailing boats and flying planes.
'Anything can happen to me. If so, I know I have done my part as a human
being in reproducing, though I may not have been the one to bear and look
after my child.'
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Copyright @ 2004 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved. -
Hmmm, quite frankly, I don't personally know of anyone living the life of another. How did you get yourself into knowing all these people?
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Try reading the last sentence of that article before you ridiculate yourself further with your lack of understanding of the simple part of philosophy.Originally posted by CannyOng:What is the connection between yr thread and this article? I getting more blur.... One conclusion. RIDICULATES!!! -
Simple. By making an effort to listen; read & thrashing issues out face to face.Originally posted by moongster:Hmmm, quite frankly, I don't personally know of anyone living the life of another. How did you get yourself into knowing all these people? -
And what is your purpose?Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Simple. By making an effort to listen; read & thrashing issues out face to face. -
To provide the listening ear. To understand the real problems and provide the best names & persons they can go to for solutions instead of having them coming to quacks you guys see on this forum.Originally posted by moongster:And what is your purpose? -
And how does your posting of their problems over here help?Originally posted by viciouskitty74:To provide the listening ear. To understand the real problems and provide the best names & persons they can go to for solutions instead of having them coming to quacks you guys see on this forum. -
They are for you to think and figure out isnt it.Originally posted by moongster:And how does your posting of their problems over here help?