Sydney or Melbourne
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I'll most probably not rent a car. If i do it, it'll more for outlying places like Great Ocean Road, etc. But there again, I don't have a great sense of directions. So i might just well join a local tour group. www.zuji.com.sg does offer a glimpse of the prices to expect.Originally posted by storywolf:You be renting a car or not ? That make a lot of different .
A lot of hotel will not have free car park for you. So if you let me know i can recommend you accordingly.
The best place to look for information on melbourne is http://www.visitvictoria.com
Plan your trip - night shopping for melbourne is thrusday and friday . So plan these night to be shopping at city center. Sunday - do not miss the victoria market & st kilda craft & art market.
Recommend you do the Great Ocean road, Grampians, Yarra Valley, Philip island, Ballarat .
If you want more challanging drive - The great alpine Road . But it is a long drive.
Hotel if do not have car - Try Ibis hotel or radisson hotel.
Also i think with joining a local tour for places like Ocean Road allows me to sit back and relax, not stress about planning the driving route, and allow time for getting lost. Yes, i know renting a car will allow me the freedom of stopovers at interesting places.
From what i gathered from some guide books, for accommodation wisde, it seems area around Swanston Street, Lonsdale Street, Bourke Street, Collins Street is quite good, in that it's just walking distance away from all the shopping areas.
Flinders Street is good for being near to the tram and train central. So it's accessible to everywhere. And it's next to Yarra river.
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Yes there are hotels around that area you mention, the price my be higher as it is in city center. Ibis is right next to victorial market, only 10min walk to city center. Don't worry city is small.Originally posted by ibanana:I'll most probably not rent a car. If i do it, it'll more for outlying places like Great Ocean Road, etc. But there again, I don't have a great sense of directions. So i might just well join a local tour group. www.zuji.com.sg does offer a glimpse of the prices to expect.
Also i think with joining a local tour for places like Ocean Road allows me to sit back and relax, not stress about planning the driving route, and allow time for getting lost. Yes, i know renting a car will allow me the freedom of stopovers at interesting places.
From what i gathered from some guide books, for accommodation wisde, it seems area around Swanston Street, Lonsdale Street, Bourke Street, Collins Street is quite good, in that it's just walking distance away from all the shopping areas.
Flinders Street is good for being near to the tram and train central. So it's accessible to everywhere. And it's next to Yarra river.
Is there anything to do at night in Melbourne? I heard the shops close quite early.
Thrusday & friday night is late night shopping they close about 9.30p.m so plan to spend 1 of those day in the city ........ shopping . Sunday plan to visit victoria market & St kilda craft market.
Other normal nights
Lygon Street, there is a lot of good resturant there, if you like thai try the lemongrass thai resturant here http://www.lemongrassrestaurant.com.au
St kilda there is some nice pub and resturant there at night.
South bank - where the casino is there is some very night restuarant and shops there.
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Chapel street is where the night life of melbourne is.
Got ghost tours if you are into those as well.
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------------Originally posted by ibanana:I'll most probably not rent a car. If i do it, it'll more for outlying places like Great Ocean Road, etc. But there again, I don't have a great sense of directions. So i might just well join a local tour group. www.zuji.com.sg does offer a glimpse of the prices to expect.
Also i think with joining a local tour for places like Ocean Road allows me to sit back and relax, not stress about planning the driving route, and allow time for getting lost. Yes, i know renting a car will allow me the freedom of stopovers at interesting places.
From what i gathered from some guide books, for accommodation wisde, it seems area around Swanston Street, Lonsdale Street, Bourke Street, Collins Street is quite good, in that it's just walking distance away from all the shopping areas.
Flinders Street is good for being near to the tram and train central. So it's accessible to everywhere. And it's next to Yarra river.
Is there anything to do at night in Melbourne? I heard the shops close quite early.
I just came back from holidays in Queesland and Sydney. I live in Melbourne. So I am willing to show you around Melbourne, then you will show me around Singapore..I am going there in early Feb... How that sounds to you? -
Also, if you are a nice person, you are welcome to join us for the tour to cut costs.. we are planning to go to Ocean Rd, Balarat and Apolo Bay in this month....but time unsure yet...
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Racist ? For Sydney & melbourne it is ok , too many asian there, so not much racist .Originally posted by Diehard_89:I heard Australia is quite racist?
my friend has been to Sydney
and he told me the stalls close at a very early time right?
like 5pm
don't know whether true a not
Sydney, - only friday night late night shopping
. every other days by 5p.m a lot of places will be closed. -
Melbourne is ok - large asian community . Even in Canberra and when I lived in Sydney, I was ok. If someone makes a racist comment to me , I just tell them off and it makes them very embarassed.Originally posted by storywolf:Racist ? For Sydney & melbourne it is ok , too many asian there, so not much racist .
Sydney, - only friday night late night shopping. every other days by 5p.m a lot of places will be closed.
Most of the time it is just misunderstandings that occur and make it appear that the Aussies are racist when they are actually not. Oh ya people can be outspoken in Australia. Don't let anyone talk down to you. -
Fymk,Originally posted by fymk:Melbourne is ok - large asian community . Even in Canberra and when I lived in Sydney, I was ok. If someone makes a racist comment to me , I just tell them off and it makes them very embarassed.
Most of the time it is just misunderstandings that occur and make it appear that the Aussies are racist when they are actually not. Oh ya people can be outspoken in Australia. Don't let anyone talk down to you.
You are right! Actually, when you get used to, people here are not racist at all. They are quite friendly and easy-going! I do the same when being attacked! But rarely happens unless you meet some akwards. -
We just need to accept that everywhere we go, we will always come across some racist people but it doesn't mean everyone living in the country is also racist.Originally posted by Diehard_89:I heard Australia is quite racist?
don't know whether true a not
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Yes, some Singaporeans are quite racist to other Asians too, esp those who come from other poorer countries. I experienced this in Singapore. Last yr, I stayed in Elizabeth hotel, a nice hotel but a racist reception. The black man (maybe Malaysian) was great, but the other Chinise man whom I was told as the Reception Manager, he was a nasty racist. Will never stay this hotel again. Please if you have friends from those places, do not book them to stay in this hotel.
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i prefer sydney, cos melbournes a little too quiet for my liking.
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Folks,
I would like to have a tour of the red light district in Melbourne.
anyone of you know whereabout is that in Melbourne?
I read on some travel materials it's in St Kilda.
But i also recalled reading somewhere it's near Chapel Street.
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I thought you wanted to migrate there... and is AGONISING over the decision... hai yah don't put this topic in AAOriginally posted by ibanana:Hi,
wanna take a trip to Australia.
Can't make up my mind whether to go Sydney or Melbourne.
Did some research....seems that Sydney is more of a city life.
Melbourne, is more of many sub-region attractions such as Philip Island, Ocean Road, etc.
would appreciate advice from those who been to both places before and your recommendation.
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Right now that would be St. Kilda, Fitzroy St. Very cruisy area, and also full of yuppies. I worked at a cafe there once.. lots of gorgeous-looking gay (T____T) men in the evenings. At certain times of the year, u can catch groups of drag queens coming out to party..Originally posted by ibanana:Folks,
I would like to have a tour of the red light district in Melbourne.
anyone of you know whereabout is that in Melbourne?
I read on some travel materials it's in St Kilda.
But i also recalled reading somewhere it's near Chapel Street.
Any helpful information will be appreciated.
I've only visited Sydney, but I've lived in Melbourne. The latter is romantic, a little more laid back, european charm.. If you *do* choose to go there, here are some places that are worth checking out :
Melbourne CBD incl Chinatown, charming cafes / bars like Hairy Canary, Robot Sushi Bar (they proudly display a working Atari on premise), Gin Palace ... HardRock Cafe... Crown Casino Shops along Sth Yarra stretch, all the way to Prahran Gay/lesbian dance bars, which are among the most "happening" places at night St Kilda, the red light district.. Mornington Peninsula National Park : snorkeling, swim with dolphins Great Ocean Road, Grampians & beyond : be prepared to spend a long time on the road, recommend u stay at least 1 night there (otherwise it won't feel like it's worth the trip) Phillip Island : penguins!! 
Yarra Valley wineries : u might find it abit boring if u're not much of a food/wine lover. Has a good hot air balloon tour. Be prepared for alot of travelling. Torquay (on the way to Great Ocean Rd) : Must-go for shoppers. Many Surf/swim-wear Factory Outlets. Roxy, No Fear, Ripcurl etc. Moorabbin : Must-go for shoppers. Another place that's full of factory outlet. Various brands, most notably Levi's & Canterbury -
wah u people know more about australia then australian themselves. Most of the Australians i know dont really travel one..so weird
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how is the charges like @ st. kildas?
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Go Africa...
would'nt meet gang, but meet a gang of lions and animals...
sydney, must go the habour, opera house...
melbourne more relaxed