Role of Moderator in AA?
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I can't agree with you more. The owner of the forum should set the tone and objective of what he wants to do.Originally posted by DeadPoet:Frankly what other people think is not that important. However what Jason thinks is very important becasue he is the owner of sgforums.
End of discussion.
Unfortunately, this owner may not really care about this particular forum, therefore anything we say or do or desire or debate about, is totally immaterial. -
Nb, in sports forum, i close chelsea threads ppl say i anti chelsea, or man utd fans por me.Originally posted by Yunhaier:Among all MODs in all forums, I think AA MODs eats the most shit of all.
The other is probably Speaker Corner - you close thread people say you Pro-Pap and practice censorship.
Cheers
I close man utd threads, means i'm anti man utd. -
Actually, I did mention that before. But since there are still other views on it, I don't see any harm starting a thread in itself. We can comment on it, doesn't mean Jason will or should act on it. Just a general discussion afterall.Originally posted by DeadPoet:Frankly what other people think is not that important. However what Jason thinks is very important becasue he is the owner of sgforums.
End of discussion.
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Originally posted by Yunhaier:Among all MODs in all forums, I think AA MODs eats the most shit of all.
The other is probably Speaker Corner - you close thread people say you Pro-Pap and practice censorship.
CheersOriginally posted by stellazio:Nb, in sports forum, i close chelsea threads ppl say i anti chelsea, or man utd fans por me.
I close man utd threads, means i'm anti man utd. Hao ren nan zhuo. -
Man , being given the power to mod means u have teh right to exercise your power at your own discretion. If the mod finds the thread inapproriate with his own judgement and wisdom , then his decision is final n absolute. Ppl can bitch n moan.. but in the end of the day they can just suck it in.. some say its like despotism , some will think of it as under benevolent despotism.. he he
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Originally posted by Bontakun:Close thread in AA and ppl sae you PRO.
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Yep, that's another point. Jason may not really care who is Mod, just that there's one. Which is why I had said in the past that it was pointless starting so many threads aimed at demodding a particular individual. Even now that the person has been demodded, it was never due on part to the threads started.Originally posted by Chin Eng:I can't agree with you more. The owner of the forum should set the tone and objective of what he wants to do.
Unfortunately, this owner may not really care about this particular forum, therefore anything we say or do or desire or debate about, is totally immaterial.
Still, the idea of this theads was really just a general discussion. I believe you and Yunahier have actually brought up points that some forumites may still not know about. -
Minorities or not, I don't know. I haven't really gone to count and make statistics. But I am willing to accept that there are differences, even among those who are moderators.Originally posted by Yunhaier:
Then do we need to change the role of MODs simply because of a few minorities?
Not happy, can always create their own forum and set their own rules. There's nothing to debate about the roles of MODs here because it's the same elsewhere.
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salaOriginally posted by R3SsH|n:role of mod in AA = clear all irrelevant threads, spams or cross-posting topics. Edit comments that are insulting and degrading to the topic or any forumnite.
same as other mods of other forums..
sanctuary suiciders not included
the mods will join in the flaming -
I think that it's precisely this point that sets AA apart from most of the other forums - the point that the forum starter is also the admin. This forum starter, in reality, does not have the same passion as the main mods of the other threads.Originally posted by SumOne:Yep, that's another point. Jason may not really care who is Mod, just that there's one. Which is why I had said in the past that it was pointless starting so many threads aimed at demodding a particular individual. Even now that the person has been demodded, it was never due on part to the threads started.
Still, the idea of this theads was really just a general discussion. I believe you and Yunahier have actually brought up points that some forumites may still not know about.
... plus (something that I wrote in another thread), the SGforums architecture do not allow the forum starter to pass the ownership of the mod to another person.
... but going back to your topic... a mod is just a glorfied jaga, nothing more nothing less. Because of the anonymity of thread-posters, there is no accountability in what we say, therefore, in reality, there is really no real Aunt Agony. Even if there is ONE person who may purport himself or herself as an experience counsellor, one can really tell by the kind of advice that this person gives as to whether that is really the case. -
which is why, among the moderators on any one forum, they must agree among themselves as to what is the modus operandi. I don't see that here because the main mod is absent.Originally posted by SumOne:Minorities or not, I don't know. I haven't really gone to count and make statistics. But I am willing to accept that there are differences, even among those who are moderators. -
Hi Chin Eng, as always I appreciate your replies and answers. Of course it helps that you express views similar to mine.Originally posted by Chin Eng:I think that it's precisely this point that sets AA apart from most of the other forums - the point that the forum starter is also the admin. This forum starter, in reality, does not have the same passion as the main mods of the other threads.
... plus (something that I wrote in another thread), the SGforums architecture do not allow the forum starter to pass the ownership of the mod to another person.
... but going back to your topic... a mod is just a glorfied jaga, nothing more nothing less. Because of the anonymity of thread-posters, there is no accountability in what we say, therefore, in reality, there is really no real Aunt Agony. Even if there is ONE person who may purport himself or herself as an experience counsellor, one can really tell by the kind of advice that this person gives as to whether that is really the case.
I have no comments about the lack of passion but AA has to exist within sgforums. Because there will always be forumites who come online to post about their emotional problems and baggages. So rather than have it all over the place, it's good to have consolidate such similar posts together.
This is basically a different issue altogether regarding the purpose of AA, but to put it in a way, AA wasn't set-up so that it was easier for resident AAs to give advise. It was more to control traffic, or at least that's what I think. So whether or not the Mod can or give advice isn't important, it's how he or she controls the traffic. Like you said, jaga. -
That sounds like the role of Mod in general anywhere.....Originally posted by BadzMaro:Man , being given the power to mod means u have teh right to exercise your power at your own discretion. If the mod finds the thread inapproriate with his own judgement and wisdom , then his decision is final n absolute. Ppl can bitch n moan.. but in the end of the day they can just suck it in.. some say its like despotism , some will think of it as under benevolent despotism.. he he -
Things you do online =/= Things you do offline.
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Then i have answered ur question then ?Originally posted by SumOne:That sounds like the role of Mod in general anywhere..... In general . -
I understand what you are trying to do here. Just that I find it is quite pointless in having this discussion because Jason has already stated quite clearly the responsibilities of a moderator in AA.Originally posted by SumOne:Actually, I did mention that before. But since there are still other views on it, I don't see any harm starting a thread in itself. We can comment on it, doesn't mean Jason will or should act on it. Just a general discussion afterall.
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Yep, kind of.... I'm not really looking for one definite answer actually, just seeing out there what people answer.Originally posted by BadzMaro:Then i have answered ur question then ? In general . -
Hmm.... I'm not sure what perceive me as trying to do, but in any case, I'm not trying to change anything here. This is just a general discussion afterall with no real bearing on outcomes.Originally posted by DeadPoet:I understand what you are trying to do here. Just that I find it is quite pointless in having this discussion because Jason has already stated quite clearly the responsibilities of a moderator in AA. -
To advice people...
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this is what aunt agony mods should do
bring more agony into ppl's life -
Most people come here to give their own "not so professional" advice and views.Originally posted by soulwinner:To advice people...
And will flame you , demerit you to see that they themselves are so call proven "pros".
Anyways, My view is AA is a place whereby Auntie Complains can be Aired.
Sometimes FI comes here as Clone and start up a Fuzz.
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Originally posted by SumOne:
1.To be nutural when providing advice in topics.Some forums eg cars which say car, power etc.BUT AA is diff, ppl hv problems(be it real or fake problems)the Mod still hv to play his/her part in helping/advicing...Cannot give those stupid or insensitive answers.....Nobody know what might happy when the "hurt" threadstarter will react when reading the post.Then later if something happen, all blame the mod from giving funny advice.
At first was going to post in existing thread but the topic was rather different and it had become a personal flaming thread.
[b]What do you think about the roles and responsibilities of Moderator in AA?
1) What one needs to do as Moderator of AA is different from Moderator in any other forum?
2) Moderator of AA is expected to give advice? So what of a moderator who doesn't give advice?
3) Advice should only be given by Moderator?
Edit;Colour changed to green to be friendlier on the eyes.[/b]
2.Firstly, AA is a place where ppl share problem or seek advice or lend a listening ear,not al ppl can hv 2345678 friends tat listen to their problems.It will be best if the Mods of AA can gv advice.A Mod tat dosen gv advice can be considered but for??Just to remove wrong posting eg:commercial,flames etc??
3.Nope, any1 can gv advice,share their view, jus lik any forum in SG or worldwide.But again, if a stupid ppl tat wan to lee siao reply to a {seriously HURT person} the hurt person wait do silly things how?Understand my point?
Jus hope that in AA when ppl reply is of constructive meterials advice, cos we do not know what the other person is thinking when reading the post as diff ppl diff perspective. -
You guys just donÂ’t get it right? Moderators in AA are not required to give advices.
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Mods of car forum must own cars.
Mods of speaker's corner must be from a political party.
Mods of bar forum must have errm some experience.
Mods of food forum must be some chef or something.
So mods of AA should have errrrr agony? -
What you have mentioned is ideal situation I guess.... But in a way, yours points towards putting a professional counsellor as Mod of AA. At least, that's the impression you're giving me.Originally posted by bo liao:1.To be nutural when providing advice in topics.Some forums eg cars which say car, power etc.BUT AA is diff, ppl hv problems(be it real or fake problems)the Mod still hv to play his/her part in helping/advicing...Cannot give those stupid or insensitive answers.....Nobody know what might happy when the "hurt" threadstarter will react when reading the post.Then later if something happen, all blame the mod from giving funny advice.
2.Firstly, AA is a place where ppl share problem or seek advice or lend a listening ear,not al ppl can hv 2345678 friends tat listen to their problems.It will be best if the Mods of AA can gv advice.A Mod tat dosen gv advice can be considered but for??Just to remove wrong posting eg:commercial,flames etc??
3.Nope, any1 can gv advice,share their view, jus lik any forum in SG or worldwide.But again, if a stupid ppl tat wan to lee siao reply to a {seriously HURT person} the hurt person wait do silly things how?Understand my point?
Jus hope that in AA when ppl reply is of constructive meterials advice, cos we do not know what the other person is thinking when reading the post as diff ppl diff perspective.