errr???? jojo, the case stated above is already settled, I don't believe we are talking about this issue when we are dealing with other claims by kenashi.Originally posted by jojobeach:Rainee,
What kind of concrete proof do you expect from a case like this ?
If someone comes up to you and touch your bo obs, and nobody sees it. Does it mean it didn't happen ?
Does it also mean you as the victim should go around shouting and declaring you have been groped ???
Know who to doubt, and who to be suspicious.
Not everyone who acts like a good guy is truly a good guy.
If you are not sure who to trust. Don't start bashing the guy that speaks out for the girl.
Singaporeans are known to be kiausu and kiasee. Are you one of them ?
If he didnt get enough heat, do you think he will step down as a mod?Originally posted by jojobeach:In this forum, we are merely spectators.
Kenashi may be nagging about this issue.
And he gets a whole load of heat from you guys.
However, Devil1976 did his cried wolf again.
Even though everyone thought the issue is done and over with.
On top of his " Anger and Frustration" thread, he went into Q's thread to taunt her, knowing fully who Q's nightmare was referring to.
Why did i not see him getting as much heat as Kenashi ?????
Is this place fair or what ?
not really , they are just unhappy the boat is being rocked and when devil is their favorite captain..Originally posted by jojobeach:In this forum, we are merely spectators.
Kenashi may be nagging about this issue.
And he gets a whole load of heat from you guys.
However, Devil1976 did his cried wolf again.
Even though everyone thought the issue is done and over with.
On top of his " Anger and Frustration" thread, he went into Q's thread to taunt her, knowing fully who Q's nightmare was referring to.
Why did i not see him getting as much heat as Kenashi ?????
Is this place fair or what ?
for the recordOriginally posted by rainee:If he didnt get enough heat, do you think he will step down as a mod?
When you accuse someone, back it up with facts and stolid proofs. Not just because you feel strongly about something, don't let emotion overule you. Once you can show the hard cold evidence to everyone, I don't think you will have much problem getting people to bash him and drive him out here.
So that should be the main focus. To get the girls who are victim to speak up. Show us the evidence. If they don't stand up for themselves, it can't be helped that the person who commits the crime gets away.
Rainee,Originally posted by rainee:If he didnt get enough heat, do you think he will step down as a mod?
When you accuse someone, back it up with facts and stolid proofs. Not just because you feel strongly about something, don't let emotion overule you. Once you can show the hard cold evidence to everyone, I don't think you will have much problem getting people to bash him and drive him out here.
So that should be the main focus. To get the girls who are victim to speak up. Show us the evidence. If they don't stand up for themselves, it can't be helped that the person who commits the crime gets away.
on the other hand are you certain 100% certain that he is not, are you willing to stake your life?Originally posted by rainee:Too much emotion and strong feelings are affecting your judgement.
Clear all that from your head, clear away the hatred, everything...
Then ask yourself: Have you seen those "crimes" occuring in front of your own two eyes?
Have you seen all those PMs or SMSes which were supposed to have been sent out? Were you there to interpret those messages yourselves?
Lastly, can you say that you are 100% certain that Devil is the culprit here? Are you willing to stake your life on your claim?
i find in many instant you dont answer the points directly but yourself post some question or when you cant answer you run away...Originally posted by rainee:Too much emotion and strong feelings are affecting your judgement.
Clear all that from your head, clear away the hatred, everything...
Then ask yourself: Have you seen those "crimes" occuring in front of your own two eyes?
Have you seen all those PMs or SMSes which were supposed to have been sent out? Were you there to interpret those messages yourselves?
Lastly, can you say that you are 100% certain that Devil is the culprit here? Are you willing to stake your life on your claim?
i am fighting here because i want justice , but my feel is you are fighting because you refuse to lose and thats it..Originally posted by rainee:Too much emotion and strong feelings are affecting your judgement.
Clear all that from your head, clear away the hatred, everything...
Then ask yourself: Have you seen those "crimes" occuring in front of your own two eyes?
Have you seen all those PMs or SMSes which were supposed to have been sent out? Were you there to interpret those messages yourselves?
Lastly, can you say that you are 100% certain that Devil is the culprit here? Are you willing to stake your life on your claim?
I am also talking about this as a serious stuff. I am asking you if you are able to tell me whether you see those things happening yourself, if you did not, don't act like you have seen them. Just say that what you have heard are stuff from other people. And other people can lie, in case you don't know.Originally posted by Space1999:i find in many instant you dont answer the points directly but yourself post some question or when you cant answer you run away...
we are talking about serious stuff which you choose to trivialise or argue like its this shampoo or that shampoo...
hah! If you are fighting for justice, then you won't bring up all those unrelated issues and try to distract others from the main issue. Just because I asked you some questions that you can't answer you decided to take a stab on me by saying I refuse to lose. If I can say it myself, you are fighting because you refuse to lose as well.Originally posted by Space1999:i am fighting here because i want justice , but my feel is you are fighting because you refuse to lose and thats it..
thats scary
this are extract from his own postOriginally posted by rainee:hah! If you are fighting for justice, then you won't bring up all those unrelated issues and try to distract others from the main issue. Just because I asked you some questions that you can't answer you decided to take a stab on me by saying I refuse to lose. If I can say it myself, you are fighting because you refuse to lose as well.
Originally posted by Bontakun:sorry dude
Jojobeach
Rainee
Space1999
& any others involved.
Please bring your disputes and arguements to the other threads and concentrate there.
Please allow this thread to remain where its originally intended to be: [b]Aunt Agony Moderator Selections – Part II
Thank you.
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let's deal with the facts - devil is not my favourite captain.Originally posted by Space1999:not really , they are just unhappy the boat is being rocked and when devil is their favorite captain..
and now captain is trying to come back and establish himself again to continue his preying, they say hey hey leave him alone!!
as I'd said.... all these are established.... but by implication kenashi said that there are other victims, so who are these victims.....???Originally posted by Space1999:for the record
the victims stood up
beegal spoke - he said she was forced
quinsy spoke - all of you ridiculed her ...
like this who want to stand up?
please define what kind of justice you want? because apparently everyone wants justice.Originally posted by Space1999:i am fighting here because i want justice , but my feel is you are fighting because you refuse to lose and thats it..
thats scary
You can't get people to cooperate if they don't want to.Originally posted by popikachu:well well...
How many time must i say to everyone...
yup, they may reply but how much post do you think he can reply?
he keep replying you guys because you guys reply him and he have to reply back! no?
it's really really simple, just a little cooperation from you guys... Stop replying to anything about this things ok?
Just stop replying... and he will find himself talking to himself and eventually ends...
ok guys? I trust You guys... stop replying...
Mr kenashi will tell you to search for it yourself, forums got search engine for a reason one.Originally posted by Chin Eng:as I'd said.... all these are established.... but by implication kenashi said that there are other victims, so who are these victims.....???
beyond these two ladies, who else?
what else do you people want? for devil to kill himself? he already has left his post as mod, so are you people going to just trail him and hunt him down like a lynch mob? and whack at every word he's said?
is he forever guilty until proven innocent, for each and everything he's done?
c'mon give me a break.