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Yea I know. I posted a series of questions for him to answer, but he can't. I think he is trying to get me to waste my time here.Originally posted by darkhour:u do understand that the more u explain urself, the more hes gona think ur defending devil?
I am off to read other things. You can think that I am defending Devil, it doesn't matter. -
let me show you extracts from his own post
you be the judge
I seriously had the impression that she was leading me on. From my further conversations with her after (sorry, I didn't learn about all these threads until lately), I guess I could be wrong. She said she wasn't trying to encourage and lead me on. To that, I owe her an apology. I'm truly sorry if I've misinterpreted you. I guess you were too quiet and casual about it so I didn't really know. I'm sorry.
seriously can you lead somebody on to grope your breast??
I smsed her telling her something like "I'm sorry for being naughty in the cinema just now."
do you send sms like this normally to a girl if your behaviour was appopriate earlier in the cinema??
wait this is the best , his excuse for sending the sms the dirty ones
There was another(?) forumite who PMed me about her problem (sorry I can't disclose the nick) which involves a sex buddy. She and Quinsy were PMing me about the same time which was really in the middle of the night. So I thought they might actually be the same person, hence I smsed Quinsy the question of "Do you have a sex buddy?"
what a superb coincidence..look at what he says.. think about it,is this a conduct of a decent person?
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i tink he juz dun understand what u r explaining la...nxt time muz clearly say 'i understand that the other point of view is valid as well' then say nicely that ur not taking sides...otherwise alot of ppl misunderstand one=xOriginally posted by rainee:Yea I know. I posted a series of questions for him to answer, but he can't. I think he is trying to get me to waste my time here.
I am off to read other things. You can think that I am defending Devil, it doesn't matter. -
OMG!!Originally posted by rainee:Yea I know. I posted a series of questions for him to answer, but he can't. I think he is trying to get me to waste my time here.
I am off to read other things. You can think that I am defending Devil, it doesn't matter.
thats the second time you ran away today!! -
I think we are the same page.Originally posted by rainee:Yea I know. I posted a series of questions for him to answer, but he can't. I think he is trying to get me to waste my time here.
I am off to read other things. You can think that I am defending Devil, it doesn't matter.
It is very strange that some folks tend to think that we are taking sides for sake of the people. This is so far from the truth.
I think, at least, both of us are on the sides of sensibility and reason.
Someone said he wanted justice: but what kind of justice? hunt 'em down and hang 'em up? This is NOT JUSTICE - it's a lynch mob mentality. This is justice based on guilty-until-proven-innocent.
True justice hinges solely on the crimes in question - deal solely with these and no any other implied or unproven allegations. Any allegations must be folowed by facts. If there are no evidence, well, I am sure we all have better things to do. -
Then? must stay here and continue to bring myself to your level ah?Originally posted by Space1999:OMG!!
thats the second time you ran away today!!
Or cannot run until i state here for everyone to see that I am defending Devil?
I got other things to do also you know -
you cant even answer my original question when you claim to know who i am so boldly...and you can t tell...what talking you??Originally posted by rainee:Yea I know. I posted a series of questions for him to answer, but he can't. I think he is trying to get me to waste my time here.
I am off to read other things. You can think that I am defending Devil, it doesn't matter.
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
That's why I posted the quote-"The law, should be reason without passion" to point this out. But obviously it is too hard to be understood.
I think we are the same page.
It is very strange that some folks tend to think that we are taking sides for sake of the people. This is so far from the truth.
I think, at least, both of us are on the sides of sensibility and reason.
Someone said he wanted justice: but what kind of justice? hunt 'em down and hang 'em up? [b]This is NOT JUSTICE - it's a lynch mob mentality. This is justice based on guilty-until-proven-innocent.
True justice hinges solely on the crimes in question - deal solely with these and no any other implied or unproven allegations. Any allegations must be folowed by facts. If there are no evidence, well, I am sure we all have better things to do.
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Letting emotion and strong feelings rule over are not exactly the correct way to convict someone, even if you do feel very passionate about the case. -
by the wayOriginally posted by rainee:Then? must stay here and continue to bring myself to your level ah?
Or cannot run until i state here for everyone to see that I am defending Devil?
I got other things to do also you know
you like to use the word stake your life
why dont you stake your life on my identity and i stake mine!
cmon..you said it boldly and confidently ..you were wrong with ladi
how about me
how confident you feel....
come on
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I think it is only fair for Quinsy to post this in response to Devil's earlier post regarding the frustration stuff.
Since Devil wants to portray himself as a victim, Quinsy has the right too to post and portray herself as the victim.
I find those people who criticise Quinsy and not Devil to be highly biased. Both are equally guilty (or innocent) at this very moment.
So will the two of them, Quinsy and Devil PLEASE refrain from starting any more threads or contributing to anymore threads regarding this matter? -
if you could answer me nowOriginally posted by Space1999:by the way
you like to use the word stake your life
why dont you stake your life on my identity and i stake mine!
cmon..you said it boldly and confidently ..you were wrong with ladi
how about me
how confident you feel....
come on
make my day
i put an ad in the papers saying im sorry and im a idiot , but how about you , why dont you stake something
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Originally posted by Chin Eng:
what is justice?is there justice in this world?justice is used when ppl want to b treated fairly, but in the first place theres no fairness...we r all born unequal...
I think we are the same page.
It is very strange that some folks tend to think that we are taking sides for sake of the people. This is so far from the truth.
I think, at least, both of us are on the sides of sensibility and reason.
Someone said he wanted justice: but what kind of justice? hunt 'em down and hang 'em up? [b]This is NOT JUSTICE - it's a lynch mob mentality. This is justice based on guilty-until-proven-innocent.
True justice hinges solely on the crimes in question - deal solely with these and no any other implied or unproven allegations. Any allegations must be folowed by facts. If there are no evidence, well, I am sure we all have better things to do.
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i dun think we r bringers of justice or what...we r all juz stating our viewpoints...we do what we think is right n tell others what we feel...we may not b right, but who r we to judge whats right or wrong...we can onli evaluate n take the best method we deem fit...
judge no one...juz say how u feel abt situations...discuss, not insist on ur sides... -
you see, you manage to hit the nail on the head, but the moment quinsy start to post all the devil gang start to ridicule her..what you want her to do?Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:I think it is only fair for Quinsy to post this in response to Devil's earlier post regarding the frustration stuff.
Since Devil wants to portray himself as a victim, Quinsy has the right too to post and portray herself as the victim.
I find those people who criticise Quinsy and not Devil to be highly biased. Both are equally guilty (or innocent) at this very moment.
So will the two of them, Quinsy and Devil PLEASE refrain from starting any more threads or contributing to anymore threads regarding this matter?
already molested, traumatise and to fight against all this non believers? -
Space, just let it pass. You know that for sure she has no idea who you are at all. There is no way anyone of you are going to answer each other's questions as it would be seen as ''giving in''.Originally posted by Space1999:by the way
you like to use the word stake your life
why dont you stake your life on my identity and i stake mine!
cmon..you said it boldly and confidently ..you were wrong with ladi
how about me
how confident you feel....
come on
make my day
I forsee that this would be a stalemate. -
im sorry but it infuriates me when she keep pretending she knows, when she admitted in ladi case she was wrong,,,,Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Space, just let it pass. You know that for sure she has no idea who you are at all. There is no way anyone of you are going to answer each other's questions as it would be seen as ''giving in''.
I forsee that this would be a stalemate.
she made the first claim , if she can answer it correctly. i put in my stake..but she ran and ran and ran..actually only twice.. -
then pray tell me , if she dont know who i am , why on earth, she would make a claim like that?out of the blue ?Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:Space, just let it pass. You know that for sure she has no idea who you are at all. There is no way anyone of you are going to answer each other's questions as it would be seen as ''giving in''.
I forsee that this would be a stalemate.
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Yea, i agree with the phrase, "Both of them are equally guilty or innocent". Quinsy stated before that it was her mistake to go and meet Devil, hence I said since she realized that was her mistake, I asked her to learn a lesson from it and stop meeting people so freely in the future. I don't see this as criticizing her.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:I think it is only fair for Quinsy to post this in response to Devil's earlier post regarding the frustration stuff.
Since Devil wants to portray himself as a victim, Quinsy has the right too to post and portray herself as the victim.
I find those people who criticise Quinsy and not Devil to be highly biased. Both are equally guilty (or innocent) at this very moment.
So will the two of them, Quinsy and Devil PLEASE refrain from starting any more threads or contributing to anymore threads regarding this matter? -
I am sure we can state our own viewpoints - in so much that they remain viewpoints. Unfortunately, I think the issue has gone beyond "viewpoints" when allegations are made that there are other "victims" beyond beegal and quinsy.Originally posted by darkhour:what is justice?is there justice in this world?justice is used when ppl want to b treated fairly, but in the first place theres no fairness...we r all born unequal...
i dun think we r bringers of justice or what...we r all juz stating our viewpoints...we do what we think is right n tell others what we feel...we may not b right, but who r we to judge whats right or wrong...we can onli evaluate n take the best method we deem fit...
judge no one...juz say how u feel abt situations...discuss, not insist on ur sides...
I am also sure that the viewpoints pertaining to devil's guilt on the cases of the two girls are the same be it, myself, rainee, jojo, and 1999.... If this is not clear enough, let me state it clearly again: WE ALL THINK THAT DEVIL IS GUILTY.
But beyond that, everything is hearsay! And to crucified a guy for other UNPROVEN things is definitely not JUSTICE.
We need to differentiate the terms JUSTICE and FAIRNESS. Justice is base on law, facts, and truth. Fairness is based on human actions, possibily including emotions. There can exist JUSTICE and NOT FAIRNESS at the same time. -
But frankly, I would love to see both of them change their nicks or something. This riff and senseless bickering is something we all have no need of! Let us concentrate on the good things in life!
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fair enuff, im only talking about the quinsy and beegal case,as for kenashi claim i really have no idea and i cant comment on that..Originally posted by Chin Eng:I am sure we can state our own viewpoints - in so much that they remain viewpoints. Unfortunately, I think the issue has gone beyond "viewpoints" when allegations are made that there are other "victims" beyond beegal and quinsy.
I am also sure that the viewpoints pertaining to devil's guilt on the cases of the two girls are the same be it, myself, rainee, jojo, and 1999.... If this is not clear enough, let me state it clearly again: WE ALL THINK THAT DEVIL IS GUILTY.
But beyond that, everything is hearsay! And to crucified a guy for other UNPROVEN things is definitely not JUSTICE.
We need to differentiate the terms JUSTICE and FAIRNESS. Justice is base on law, facts, and truth. Fairness is based on human actions, possibily including emotions. There can exist JUSTICE and NOT FAIRNESS at the same time. -
Then you'll see space1999 go something like:Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:But frankly, I would love to see both of them change their nicks or something. This riff and senseless bickering is something we all have no need of! Let us concentrate on the good things in life!
"Oh, finally decided to come back under a clone account huh? Don't dare to post under your old nick already issit?!?!" -
hahah maybe...Originally posted by ditzy:Then you'll see space1999 go something like:
"Oh, finally decided to come back under a clone account huh? Don't dare to post under your old nick already issit?!?!" -
That will not work, cos it will only bring them even more accusations and doubt from the public once they are found out to be using a clone nick.Originally posted by bigmouthjoe:But frankly, I would love to see both of them change their nicks or something. This riff and senseless bickering is something we all have no need of! Let us concentrate on the good things in life!
But I am all for them to remain low profile until all this hoo-ha is over.
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Not maybe, its confirmed. Remember what you said you'll do the last time if mr d steps down as mod?Originally posted by Space1999:hahah maybe... Obviously its not holding up. -
Thought this matter is already done and dusted?
So meaningless to seek justice through a forum..........