Fear
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I have based my decision about other matters on my intuition and gutfeel before, and there have been times when I was proven wrong. I do not wish to just purely based it on gut feel again this time.Originally posted by jojobeach:Rainee,
You are a woman.
Based on your gut feel.
Would you rather trust a man who is not shameless.
Who put his own reputation at risk to stand up for a girl.
Or would you rather trust a man who goes around telling people he did touched her .. but she asked for it.
That he help the girls he preyed on and yet was betrayed ?
What do you think ?
I think I would trust no one, I am merely giving them the benefits of the doubt. I will listen to what they got to say but doesn't mean I will take side with them just because he is standing up for a damsel in distress. The person who is standing up for the girl might have his own other mission, you never know. -
again you are correct but dont you see the mischief of him posting on quinsy thread of fear because of him , just posting there shows he is in control and she cant touch himOriginally posted by rainee:Did he harass her?
He is still a forumite, he can post jolly well wherever he please. We cant restrict him, just as much as I can't restrict you from posting here.
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can you see that?it alpha male behaviour of terrorism over the female species
its saying
yes i violated you and imhere pissing on your garden, what can you do about it? -
It is cos, quinsy said she regretted meeting up with him, esp when she doesn't really know him at all. So I am pointing out, since she regrets meeting up with him, who is someone she doesnt know well, why not learn from the "mistake" and not repeat it again in the future?Originally posted by Space1999:i respect your principle in not bashing , okay , but if that your principle and you are not sure 100% quinsy is wrong either , why you say she made a mistake?
isnt that contradictory and proof what i said ?
you are unconsiously very on his side..wihtout you realising it... -
sigh what mission , i can swear i dont know devil or quinsy , i have not met a single forumite here. never...!what i have to gain?Originally posted by rainee:I have based my decision about other matters on my intuition and gutfeel before, and there have been times when I was proven wrong. I do not wish to just purely based it on gut feel again this time.
I think I would trust no one, I am merely giving them the benefits of the doubt. I will listen to what they got to say but doesn't mean I will take side with them just because he is standing up for a damsel in distress. The person who is standing up for the girl might have his own other mission, you never know.
nothing
but im here because i witnessed the effect of the crime before , and is criminal pure criminal .. -
space...i tink sometimes u feel too strongly about some things...i mean sometimes ur tryin to show the more xtreme case n sayin that it is so...i believe rainee is juz showing a different point of view...as for devil posting in here, it may not b true of that he is tryin to do what u say he is...i mean u see a topic relating to ur case, u wuld post a comment rite?im not sayin that it is right either, but it may not b the case which ur talkin abtOriginally posted by Space1999:again you are correct but dont you see the mischief of him posting on quinsy thread of fear because of him , just posting there shows he is in control and she cant touch him
can you see that?it alpha male behaviour of terrorism over the female species
its saying
yes i violated you and imhere pissing on your garden, what can you do about it? -
I am not talking about you in the first placeOriginally posted by Space1999:sigh what mission , i can swear i dont know devil or quinsy , i have not met a single forumite here. never...!what i have to gain?
nothing
but im here because i witnessed the effect of the crime before , and is criminal pure criminal ..
I have a quote for you:
"The law should be reason, free from passion" -Aristotle.
Think about it. Then tell me what you think about this saying
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bcoz u haf seen this happen n it has made an impact in ur mind so whenever theres a case like that, u will straightaway go all for the person who is said to b molested...i tink u kinda let ur emotions take over, coz u feel alot for this case...juz notice that most of the things said is 'with a possibility' of happening...nothing is confirm ok?Originally posted by Space1999:sigh what mission , i can swear i dont know devil or quinsy , i have not met a single forumite here. never...!what i have to gain?
nothing
but im here because i witnessed the effect of the crime before , and is criminal pure criminal .. -
you may be right but im pretty sure he is being mischeviousOriginally posted by darkhour:space...i tink sometimes u feel too strongly about some things...i mean sometimes ur tryin to show the more xtreme case n sayin that it is so...i believe rainee is juz showing a different point of view...as for devil posting in here, it may not b true of that he is tryin to do what u say he is...i mean u see a topic relating to ur case, u wuld post a comment rite?im not sayin that it is right either, but it may not b the case which ur talkin abt
but would you post something nonsensical on a person thread that already say you molested her before?
you will only post something to defend yourself instead of pissing nonsense on her thread isnt it? -
but yet, if he was indeed innocent in some aspects, n some of the truth were distorted to his disadvantage, wuld u b angry that ur supposed 'victim' always posts as if he was to b fully blamed for everything?im juz saying 'if'...u may not knw what exactly is happening...Originally posted by Space1999:you may be right but im pretty sure he is being mischevious
but would you post something nonsensical on a person thread that already say you molested her before?
you will only post something to defend yourself instead of pissing nonsense on her thread isnt it? -
let me give you a quote tooOriginally posted by rainee:I am not talking about you in the first place
I have a quote for you:
"The law should be reason, free from passion" -Aristotle.
Think about it. Then tell me what you think about this saying
Originally posted by rainee:
And Space1999 and Ladi, it is so obvious who both of you are Don't ask me how I know, I just do
....you believed something that you are not so sure off, and stake so much on it...and was proven wrong...your judgment may be wrong here too...
sorry to bring this up its over already , but i would like to use it as a case in point for you ,
anyway. we fail to agree
its doesnt do her any good or put his perverted bum injail
lets agree to disagree -
it is all i think, i think...who confirm?Originally posted by Space1999:you may be right but im pretty sure he is being mischevious
but would you post something nonsensical on a person thread that already say you molested her before?
you will only post something to defend yourself instead of pissing nonsense on her thread isnt it?
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Oh come on, just cos you can't reason rationally with me, you are bringing up something that is of totally no relation to this case.Originally posted by Space1999:let me give you a quote too
Originally posted by rainee:
And Space1999 and Ladi, it is so obvious who both of you are Don't ask me how I know, I just do
....you believed something that you are not so sure off, and stake so much on it...and was proven wrong...your judgment may be wrong here too...
sorry to bring this up its over already , but i would like to use it as a case in point for you ,
anyway. we fail to agree
its doesnt do her any good or put his perverted bum injail
lets agree to disagree
When you want to talk about sth, stick to the topic. Don't move here and there to confuse others
Or is it cos the quote I posted is too chim for you to understand? I was merely asking your opinion on it, and you turned 180 degrees and bring up something to distract me. Should I bring up your old posts as well to show others about your "credibility"?
I don't mind agreeing to disagree with you, but once I see you bashing someone up with totally no reason, I feel like I should say something. And you can't stop me. -
i was beegal nemesis earlier on last year, so when his case and beegal and his claim that beegal was being manipulated and force to blah blah , i know for a fact its notOriginally posted by rainee:it is all i think, i think...who confirm?
at that point , i can see what type of lying manipulative scroundel he is..
and when quinsy case , which is a matter of time , came out ,..sigh -
i dont care about my credibility , im not the one accused here. and i dont put myself in situation to be accused like him, a guy would tell you , why did he do that?unless he wants to get somethingOriginally posted by rainee:Oh come on, just cos you can't reason rationally with me, you are bringing up something that is of totally no relation to this case.
When you want to talk about sth, stick to the topic. Don't move here and there to confuse others
Or is it cos the quote I posted is too chim for you to understand? I was merely asking your opinion on it, and you turned 180 degrees and bring up something to distract me. Should I bring up your old posts as well to show others about your "credibility"?
I don't mind agreeing to disagree with you, but once I see you bashing someone up with totally no reason, I feel like I should say something. And you can't stop me.
his admittance, he like to meet girls alone despite having a gf for movies and drinks to talk to them and have no problem in the past,...doesnt that tell something about his principles?
hey why you have to meet them alone ?what you hope to achieve?ask his own dark heart.. -
why you didnt defend quinsy when she was bashed up for making the accusations?Originally posted by rainee:Oh come on, just cos you can't reason rationally with me, you are bringing up something that is of totally no relation to this case.
When you want to talk about sth, stick to the topic. Don't move here and there to confuse others
Or is it cos the quote I posted is too chim for you to understand? I was merely asking your opinion on it, and you turned 180 degrees and bring up something to distract me. Should I bring up your old posts as well to show others about your "credibility"?
I don't mind agreeing to disagree with you, but once I see you bashing someone up with totally no reason, I feel like I should say something. And you can't stop me.
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I give her the benefit of my doubt in my own way. I do not see why I have to defend her by bashing up devil or something.Originally posted by Space1999:why you didnt defend quinsy when she was bashed up for making the accusations?
again...
Like what I said, I don't trust whatever people said here 100%. There is a possibility that devil commits the crime. But there is a possiblity he didnt as well.
I refuse to defend the other party just by bashing up someone whom I cannot say 100%, is guilty. -
now u guys r flaming each other...hey everyone is entitled to their own views ok?
Space1999, juz wanna tell u i think uve been quite judgemental abt this issue since the start of the case, so juz try to give the benefit of the doubt to everyone...we duno the truth, n quarelling over whether u or rainee is right isnt gona solve anything for quincy, so if u wanna help her, juz give her advice...flaming fellow forumites is unnecessary now k?in the end its juz gona hurt relations with each other n it wun make quincy or devil better or worse...
basically this argument is goin nowhere, so lets juz go back to how to clear the aftermath ok? -
you defended devil when he is getting bashed up you sayOriginally posted by rainee:I give her the benefit of my doubt in my own way. I do not see why I have to defend her by bashing up devil or something.
Like what I said, I don't trust whatever people said here 100%. There is a possibility that devil commits the crime. But there is a possiblity he didnt as well.
I refuse to defend the other party just by bashing up someone whom I cannot say 100%, is guilty.
did you defend quinsy when she was getting bash up?
nope
so where is your balance?
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Nah, I am not flaming him. I am trying to reason with him but he refused to do that and instead brought up some issues which are not related to the case at all.Originally posted by darkhour:now u guys r flaming each other...hey everyone is entitled to their own views ok?
Space1999, juz wanna tell u i think uve been quite judgemental abt this issue since the start of the case, so juz try to give the benefit of the doubt to everyone...we duno the truth, n quarelling over whether u or rainee is right isnt gona solve anything for quincy, so if u wanna help her, juz give her advice...flaming fellow forumites is unnecessary now k?in the end its juz gona hurt relations with each other n it wun make quincy or devil better or worse...
basically this argument is goin nowhere, so lets juz go back to how to clear the aftermath ok?
I have already asked the 3 questions in the other thread, I will post them here again:
1) Were you there to witness the incident when it happens? Were you there to see it happened with your own eyes?
2) Were you there to read the SMSes or PMs whcih were supposed to be sent out? Were you there to interpret the messages yourself?
3) Can you, say for 100% sure that Devil is guilty? If yes, what evidence can you produce?
Sadly, law works based on reasoning rather than based on emotions/passion. That was what I was trying to say when I posted the quote earlier. -
I have said many times I am not defending Devil or Quinsy, but you just refused to hear. Nothing more to say to someone who doesn't understand plain English.Originally posted by Space1999:you defended devil when he is getting bashed up you say
did you defend quinsy when she was getting bash up?
nope
so where is your balance?
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you are right in certain ways, he maybe back as a clone to continue his dastardly things...and i believe rainee is just arguing to win the argument .. thats it.. so its a waste of timeOriginally posted by darkhour:now u guys r flaming each other...hey everyone is entitled to their own views ok?
Space1999, juz wanna tell u i think uve been quite judgemental abt this issue since the start of the case, so juz try to give the benefit of the doubt to everyone...we duno the truth, n quarelling over whether u or rainee is right isnt gona solve anything for quincy, so if u wanna help her, juz give her advice...flaming fellow forumites is unnecessary now k?in the end its juz gona hurt relations with each other n it wun make quincy or devil better or worse...
basically this argument is goin nowhere, so lets juz go back to how to clear the aftermath ok? -
If you can make kenashi change his mind, space1999 is small fry.Originally posted by rainee:Nah, I am not flaming him. I am trying to reason with him but he refused to do that and instead brought up some issues which are not related to the case at all.
I have already asked the 3 questions in the other thread, I will post them here again:
1) Were you there to witness the incident when it happens? Were you there to see it happened with your own eyes?
2) Were you there to read the SMSes or PMs whcih were supposed to be sent out? Were you there to interpret the messages yourself?
3) Can you, say for 100% sure that Devil is guilty? If yes, what evidence can you produce?
Sadly, law works based on reasoning rather than based on emotions/passion. That was what I was trying to say when I posted the quote earlier. -
hahahaOriginally posted by rainee:I have said many times I am not defending Devil or Quinsy, but you just refused to hear. Nothing more to say to someone who doesn't understand plain English.
but YOU are defending him now!!what talking you ... -
He doesn't understand what justice is. I refuse to talk about justice with someone who doesn't get that hard evidence is needed to prove that someone is 100% guilty. And just because I am not like him who bash up someone just based on hearsays, he is saying I am defending someone.Originally posted by ditzy:If you can make kenashi change his mind, space1999 is small fry. -
u do understand that the more u explain urself, the more hes gona think ur defending devil?Originally posted by rainee:He doesn't understand what justice is. I refuse to talk about justice with someone who doesn't get that hard evidence is needed to prove that someone is 100% guilty. And just because I am not like him who bash up someone just based on hearsays, he is saying I am defending someone.