Is there really a god at all?
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You do not exist. I did not read your last post.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:God is a concept. It does not exist.
Everything is a concept. You, me, he, she, and everyone does not exist.
We does not exist.
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if u believe there is , then there is...
if u believe there isn't, then there is no god...
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Actually after reading these, I still cannot see why TS is in agony.
Mebbe want to elaborate on your problems? -
To not too much of what might already have been said, becoming a Christian does not mean you will stop facing difficulties and problems in life. What is supposed to change is your apporach to the situation.
I don't understand how your friends 'make use of you', but if you think becoming a Christian is about giving all your money and expecting it to come back to you two fold three fold, then that is a very wrong thinking as well. Somebody must have really taught you the wrong stuff.
One thing about letting anyone be able to help you, whether God or anyone human, you need to first trust and give the person a chance to help. I'm not saying your 'friends' are 100% reliable (I don't know them), but if you don't even give anyone a chance to help, they definitely can't help. But if you open up, at least there's a chance.
But whether Christian or non-Christian, hating everyone and everything is not the solution to anything. I do not know your situation directly, but I'm sure not everything in your life can be blamed on every one else. Perhaps it's easier to put the blame to everyone else sometimes, but I believe there is that tendency in everyone (myself included). But at certain point in life, we have to take charge of our problems.
God is not something/someone or a tool of some sort that you summon and expect to instantly resolve your problems by removing it. Sometimes, it's about learning howto deal with it so that you become a stronger person. -
Entering the Kingdom of God and staying there is no easy task. Like the rest before me have said, Christian life isn't a bed of roses. Don't believe those ridiculous advertisements you she everytime about Christians being "forever happy" and "care-free". We're humans as well. I had depression twice in my 17 years of life. I thought that God and Jesus had abandoned me as well. But then I realized it was me who had abandoned them. I'm still recovering from those utterly miserable days.Originally posted by dyingpainfully:I once believed in Christ.
The pastor told me everything was gonna change once I became christ, But even after I became christ. I did not feel any change around me. I was still being bullied, being picked on and disliked or even hated.
Using you? How? We can't help if you don't provide details.
I then became very angry that I felt that my christian friends were just using me, Once I stopped believing, Everything wasn't as bad as before because I told myself it was time for a change.
You're growing away from the people you know, and that's not a helpful sign.
Either I wait for it to happen or I take it into my own hands and change everything, I thought I did well in changing. But I eventually grew disgusted with myself and the things I'm doing. I felt even more alone.
I have people telling me that "XXX, You can come to me and talk to me when you need help"
Was this character trait of being generally mistrustful something you had before you became like this? A really concerned person would not fall for the bait you put to lure them away from your problem. He/she will just keeping pressing, and you have to play your part too. Stop pushing people who are really concerned away.
But when I really need someone to talk to, I can't see them as someone I can trust and talk to. I even resort to changing the story alittle just to mislead them then off the issue off my mind.
But its really no use, My life i think is crashing down and I really don't know what to do. Now, I put on a strong front and try to cover my weaknesses but in fact, I know I don't have the guts to do it. I ever really had the thoughts to stab someone but I chickened out.
General misconception about counsellors; not everyone's out to get you. Only the very, very serious cases are ever reported to the IMH, and that's only after long consideration and discussion. You show slightly misanthropic tendencies here. Try seeing the good in people, and then maybe you can find the good in yourself.
I don't wanna talk to any counsellors because they cannot be trusted, I am afraid they will put me in some mental house or report me to the police. I keep telling myself one day I will make them pay. I dream about becoming rich then destroying their lives like they have to my life.
I sometimes I think of what I am living for, There is nothing I am anticipating to happen either that or I feel there is no need to suffer for that cause. I think of suicide.
If you judge yourself before others, then others will see that it's fine to judge you. So, break the bloody cycle. Take some time to prepare for it, then do it. It's not so hard.
I don't really like my class as well, I prefer the other class as they welcome me more and I think I fit in better. It really sucks, And I don't know if there is any chance of me changing class at all. I really don't feel like going to school tomorrow but I have a project to rush but I really need the time alone.
"Hate" is a very strong word.
I hate myself.
Here, you're just being lazy. What's the point of living if there's no struggle?
If there is a chance, I really wanna live my next life as someone with everything made for him or someone who doesn't know anyone at all so that I don't have to face any mockery at all.
No chance of coming back after death; you realize that, don't you? I'm not saying this as a Christian, but think again. If you're so unafraid of death, what do you have to be afraid of in this world?
I know running away isn't the solution but I think its either that or dying.
You can choose to believe in God, or you can choose to reject Him. Religion is choice. Christ gave the people who wanted to crucify Him that choice. Why should He show any difference to you, who have no great animosity towards Him?
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Life...
It's painful isn't it?
About religious, well, i won't be giving comment on that.
Anyway
It's all about, Mindset. Yup mindset.
How you feel about a thing is how you view it.
You are feeling sad aren't you?
You are in pain... right?
You wanted to tell others about how you feel... but no one really care and may not even believe you... or they might even laugh at you right?
Trust
It's hard to totally trust someone... Telling them how you are feeling now... Scared that they might tell other and then become an laugh matter...
Well... the only thing you can do now is to take away that pain...
Share your feeling with others...
Internet although cannot be trusted but at least, your identity is hidden.
This may not complete take away your pain but at least, it can divide your pain.
Or you may share it with someone where it will never tell others...
That someone can be your diaries... Or blog, blog can be put on password to prevent others from entering...
To take away the pain, only you can do it yourself...
Sharing your problems can only minimise the pain.
Well, again, it on how you view and feel things...
This world may be beautiful from another angle of view...
Good luck.
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what talking you?Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:God is a concept. It does not exist.
Everything is a concept. You, me, he, she, and everyone does not exist.
We does not exist. -
Cogito Ergo Sum -> "I think therefore I am"Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:God is a concept. It does not exist.
Everything is a concept. You, me, he, she, and everyone does not exist.
We does not exist.
Anyway back to TS:
You have created a positive feedback loop. First you believe that othes are isolating you and you start to detest them. On seeing your further withdrawal, it just further reinforces their preception that you are weird and better left untouched. Then you start to feel that they distance themselves even more and the cycle continues ever and forever.
Sometimes faith is not the ultimate solution to everything but you seem to be lacking in faith in others. That is the most fundamental faith.
Trust some people, like professional counsellors. I believe as long as you do not hold some neo-nazi ideas I believe they won't report you to the cops. Why not just take a gamble, a gamble of trust. Trust a few people and see the results.
Have trust in others. Only then will you be able to lift the tinted glasses through which you have hitherto been viewing the world. -
keep the faith man.
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Keep it real
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Originally posted by mhcampboy:dyingpainfully, You can come to me and talk to me when you need help
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good luck,dyingpainfully. i hope you will regain faith in yourself, and God.
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what if, just what if, we are in a matrix like the trilogy?Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:God is a concept. It does not exist.
Everything is a concept. You, me, he, she, and everyone does not exist.
We does not exist.
what if, we are just a speck in the universe?
what is our purpose in life then?
i haven't found mine.
Life on earth is so perfect that it could not have happened by chance. Even the composition of the air has to be exact or else we cannot survive. there is definitely God, and i believe in Jesus. -
Yep it is indeed very tempting to accept the concept of a supreme creator.Originally posted by unclebutcher:what if, just what if, we are in a matrix like the trilogy?
what if, we are just a speck in the universe?
what is our purpose in life then?
i haven't found mine.
Life on earth is so perfect that it could not have happened by chance. Even the composition of the air has to be exact or else we cannot survive. there is definitely God, and i believe in Jesus.
However have anyone considered that the creator may not be only one? He may be a they? He/they may be mortal(s)? Was/were he/they created by someone else?
Interesting ain't it? The beauty of religion and faith.
Life is way too interesting to be thrown away and wasted. -
X2Originally posted by teraexa:
Yep it is indeed very tempting to accept the concept of a supreme creator.
However have anyone considered that the creator may not be only one? He may be a they? He/they may be mortal(s)? Was/were he/they created by someone else?
Interesting ain't it? The beauty of religion and faith.Life is way to interesting to be thrown away and wasted. -
The reason why life is so perfect, why our atom weight and all are so perfect, is because that if it is slightly different, we WOULDN'T HAVE EXISTED.Originally posted by unclebutcher:what if, just what if, we are in a matrix like the trilogy?
what if, we are just a speck in the universe?
what is our purpose in life then?
i haven't found mine.
Life on earth is so perfect that it could not have happened by chance. Even the composition of the air has to be exact or else we cannot survive. there is definitely God, and i believe in Jesus.
Hence, because of our existence, the laws of nature MUST BE THAT WAY. If it isn't that way, we wouldn't have existed.
Please read this: http://signorekai.blogspot.com/2007/06/coin-of-possibility.html -
Yes there IS a God. You have to trust and believe in that God because although you might feel the way you do now that nobody cares about you but God does care about you. You have to have faith and believe. Being righteous with God doesn't mean everyone will love you. A lot of Jesus' disciples were persecuted for their beliefs yet they didn't need the love of others because they had the greatest love of all - God's love. So just pray and trust in Jesus' sacrifice.
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TS, congrats, your eyes are finally opened.
If God does not exist, you are in deep sh_it.
If God does exists, you are still in deep sh_it anyway.Surely the God's hotline is jammed due to so many prayer requests.
But counselors do exist, and you should correctly place your trust in them.
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And to those people who harps upon the perfect system logic. Let's say the universe is a constant big crunch and big bang and back to big crunch , let's relate it to a Russian roulette.
Assuming of all the possibilities, I want the number 23. Does it mean the possibility of throwing the first time guarantees me a definite No. 23? Therefore, I will throw, throw, throw and throw again until I get the No. 23.
Same as the constant big crunch and big bang and back to big crunch theory. It would always be happening until life sprouts...Who knows the next big bang will not yield life.
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Anyway choose what you believe in, if it keeps you going, its better than nothing. -
You never watch Exorcist: The Begining?
"God is not here today, priest!!!" -
Science..Originally posted by unclebutcher:what if, just what if, we are in a matrix like the trilogy?
what if, we are just a speck in the universe?
what is our purpose in life then?
i haven't found mine.
Life on earth is so perfect that it could not have happened by chance. Even the composition of the air has to be exact or else we cannot survive. there is definitely God, and i believe in Jesus.
Human evolution have made us to adpat to the environemnt.
Even if someone were to live in Mars, after 1billion years of evolution, they will have adapt to the system there. -
Okie boy boy,Originally posted by dyingpainfully:I once believed in Christ.
The pastor told me everything was gonna change once I became christ, But even after I became christ. I did not feel any change around me. I was still being bullied, being picked on and disliked or even hated.
I then became very angry that I felt that my christian friends were just using me, Once I stopped believing, Everything wasn't as bad as before because I told myself it was time for a change.
Either I wait for it to happen or I take it into my own hands and change everything, I thought I did well in changing. But I eventually grew disgusted with myself and the things I'm doing. I felt even more alone.
I have people telling me that "XXX, You can come to me and talk to me when you need help"
But when I really need someone to talk to, I can't see them as someone I can trust and talk to. I even resort to changing the story alittle just to mislead them then off the issue off my mind.
But its really no use, My life i think is crashing down and I really don't know what to do. Now, I put on a strong front and try to cover my weaknesses but in fact, I know I don't have the guts to do it. I ever really had the thoughts to stab someone but I chickened out.
I don't wanna talk to any counsellors because they cannot be trusted, I am afraid they will put me in some mental house or report me to the police. I keep telling myself one day I will make them pay. I dream about becoming rich then destroying their lives like they have to my life.
I sometimes I think of what I am living for, There is nothing I am anticipating to happen either that or I feel there is no need to suffer for that cause. I think of suicide.
I don't really like my class as well, I prefer the other class as they welcome me more and I think I fit in better. It really sucks, And I don't know if there is any chance of me changing class at all. I really don't feel like going to school tomorrow but I have a project to rush but I really need the time alone.
I hate myself.
If there is a chance, I really wanna live my next life as someone with everything made for him or someone who doesn't know anyone at all so that I don't have to face any mockery at all.
I know running away isn't the solution but I think its either that or dying.
In life now, there are haters.
Singapore has been colonized by the foreigners which the government targeted aggressively.
We have fake christians, fake catholic, and a lot of people who fake just to be in the religions.
I once heard a pastor say this,
"I do not owe you and thus you do not owe me." (Modified quite)
That's why I choose to be an orthodox christian as I am today.
I never attend church.
I hate their sermons which was pure garbage.
That is a hate speech. Whether you like it not.
Isnt this what the PM 's son wrote in his angry e-mail?
The XXxx do not owe XXXX a career? (Modified quote)
Singapore is following the amercian Haters.
The result of massive colonization of foreigners.
Don't worry. There is always retribution for the people who bullied and hated you before.
The only way for you to do is to get out of the environment that was targeting you.
Change a New school, Change a new class. change new friends.
Sometimes running away is 1 of the solutions.
Imagine this famous chinese quote,
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That means you need to withdraw when on the losing end,
and strike when you gather your troops for a comeback.
Remember 1 thing, Don't be stupid and listen to idiots who tell you that it's your own fault that you do not know how to handle people.
That's hypocrite's way of handling people.
Instead you should
Get new friends who will support you and new people who will help you.
People do not reason with you.
When gang up in groups that they attack someone, they do not reason.
That's why you should understand that we have unreasonable people.
As for whether there is God,
I believe only when all hopes are lost and you are hoping for a miracle, then pray to God.
That's when miracle is likely to happen.
If you don't mind, maybe we can friends.
Send me your msn. Maybe we can chat so you won't feel lonely.
Until then, don't let people make you feel small.
They are discriminating against each other just like flamers.
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There is god but depends on whether this god wanna bless you or not. no worries,I have been through what you are going thru. The worst that can happen is there you are obeying God's word but there are evil chrisitans around in church, workplace, social circle to create trouble. The worst is the evil chrisitans in workplace who go all the way to break a chrisitan's rice bowl. God just let them do so, and better still they are so blessed that they get promoted from one grade to another, from one position to another. Chrisitans will say ,it is you who have no patience no trust in God that is why facing this !! Or they will say is be patient let them to God God will judge them on judgement day. Unrealistic!Originally posted by dyingpainfully:I once believed in Christ.
The pastor told me everything was gonna change once I became christ, But even after I became christ. I did not feel any change around me. I was still being bullied, being picked on and disliked or even hated.
I then became very angry that I felt that my christian friends were just using me, Once I stopped believing, Everything wasn't as bad as before because I told myself it was time for a change.
Either I wait for it to happen or I take it into my own hands and change everything, I thought I did well in changing. But I eventually grew disgusted with myself and the things I'm doing. I felt even more alone.
I have people telling me that "XXX, You can come to me and talk to me when you need help"
But when I really need someone to talk to, I can't see them as someone I can trust and talk to. I even resort to changing the story alittle just to mislead them then off the issue off my mind.
But its really no use, My life i think is crashing down and I really don't know what to do. Now, I put on a strong front and try to cover my weaknesses but in fact, I know I don't have the guts to do it. I ever really had the thoughts to stab someone but I chickened out.
I don't wanna talk to any counsellors because they cannot be trusted, I am afraid they will put me in some mental house or report me to the police. I keep telling myself one day I will make them pay. I dream about becoming rich then destroying their lives like they have to my life.
I sometimes I think of what I am living for, There is nothing I am anticipating to happen either that or I feel there is no need to suffer for that cause. I think of suicide.
I don't really like my class as well, I prefer the other class as they welcome me more and I think I fit in better. It really sucks, And I don't know if there is any chance of me changing class at all. I really don't feel like going to school tomorrow but I have a project to rush but I really need the time alone.
I hate myself.
If there is a chance, I really wanna live my next life as someone with everything made for him or someone who doesn't know anyone at all so that I don't have to face any mockery at all.
I know running away isn't the solution but I think its either that or dying.
Go try other alternatives, like going to the temple, mixing around with friends who are genuine (not necessary to mix with christians, for many times they add to problems).
God God God, no god, got god, got god to bless evil chrisitians to prosper to ill treat and bring evil to the innocent ones. Crap, chrisitanity is nothing but crap! So many restrictions - don't do yoga, it is not from God from the devil! Cannot do this cannot do that, in the end Chrisitans are the most hypocritical people among the religious people. Yucks! -
Give yourself one more chance.
Seek professional help.
Even if you will be placed in a mental hospital, know that it is to help you recover from your inner demons.
The people here can only give you advice that is insufficient for the problems you face.
Here is S.O.S. for you. Please consider emailing them while you're still open to help.
PM me if you'd like a to talk to a like-minded soul for as long as it can cling on to its sorry life. -
Just want to add something that I got from elsewhere.
You can't just pray and ask God to let you ace your exams yet not do any preperation yourself. -
I don't think that can help at all.Originally posted by livingpainfully:Give yourself one more chance.
Seek professional help.
Even if you will be placed in a mental hospital, know that it is to help you recover from your inner demons.
The people here can only give you advice that is insufficient for the problems you face.
Here is S.O.S. for you. Please consider emailing them while you're still open to help.
PM me if you'd like a to talk to a like-minded soul for as long as it can cling on to its sorry life.
He will be labelled as incompetent when admited to the hospital instead of getting help.
That means more people will bully him.
What he needs is a social circle of good friends who loves him.
My advice is more than sufficient.
Go to a new environment where u got friends who likes you and people kind to you. It can more than cure him.
The bullying today is what caused him today. Instead of blaming the bullies, we blame him.
No more garbage advices please.
Thank You