The thing is, no one eats with me, nowadays I sit alone at another table, eat quickly and leave before they see me. When I want people to eat with me, I ask them, not the other way around. No one wanted to eat with me except for my true friends before.Originally posted by lageihsif:well i managed to in sec sch. although not as jialat la...at least still gt ppl eat meals with me...but i didnt have wad u will call true frens back then...
then now im in poly. i got nothing better to do so i joined the freshmen orientation camp. get to meet lots of fun and new ppl. and i feel much happier now...
so if i can do it, i believe he can too
anyway sgf outings u can go wad![]()
Life sucks rite?Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:Hi, I'll try to keep this short, I can elaborate if you want me to. Basically, I cannot seem to bond with my class. For example, I would try to socialise with the others by sitting at their table for lunch break, but, all they ever do is talk among themselves while I eat. A lot of times, I finsh eating in silence then walk away, I dont even think they noticed. It makes me feel invisible so I stopped sitting with them after a while. Then now, they still dont notice whenever I'm gone. I'm not demanding attention or anything, I just want to be part of a group that bonds together. I mean, the rest of them are fine, so it is confirmed that something is wrong with me. Is it my appearance? or my attitude? I try to be nice a lot of times. For example, this girl in my class, with whom I have a similar timetable to, I want to get to know her as a friend. Then I try to sit beside her in class. This is how she treats me: When she wants something, she is very nice, smiles and all. But when she doesn't need anything from me, she is PMS and bitchy. But when another guy, also a friend that share the similar timetable comes in, she'd ask me to move away from her so that the guy can sit beside her. Like today, I went in class with that guy friend, she looked at him, only at him, and said "You can sit beside me" That really hurt me a lot, but I try to be nice and I just move away.
That is only once example from a person. as for the class, they wont notice me when I'm gone. Not even a 'Bye!' Class activities, I am the last one to know and conversations, I have to always initiate and not be the one who gets talked to. Instead I'll be the one doing the talking to someone else just in order to seem more sociable. Honestly, I am jealous of how my other guy friends get attention from the other people. Maybe it's because they think I'm a very serious person, but I try to be a fun person and they think I've gone "mad".
I mean, it's nice to feel loved by someone else and feel that you play a part in this community. I mean, everyone else in that community seems to get along fine. It must be just me and I'm already having some problems with this. I think I'm cracking under it. I've considered taking 30 panadols after someone I wanted in a relationship rejected me. Also, i have been saying and hearing these voices of both myself and other people. Sometimes, I'd even have conversations with the voices as though they were real people. I don't want to see a doctor cause what would the rest of the class think of me when they know I'm mentally unstable? Help me please. I'm desperate. I've bought the panadol already.
I always give. I dare say it myself. I give my full trust and belief in the people I meet. But I need my friends to talk to. I can't speak to my parents cause we're so distant. My good friends know more of me than my parents do. And what meaningful things are there to do as a student? If I were to see children with no legs, I'd give them cash. ANimals with diseases, I'd gladly pay for their medical services even if it eats a hole in my pocket. I've always wanted to be a vet, but I dont think my current subject combi will allow me to. I dare say I have a compassionate nature that sometimes, I expect returned by other people.Originally posted by jojobeach:Plsdunbanme,
Before you ask of others to give.
You need to give , first.
To be honest. Loneliness is human.
I am considered a popular person.
My friends spans across the globe.
Do I feel lonely ? Yes.
Do I feel suicidal sometimes? Yes.
Do I feel like the whole world owes me a living sometimes ? Yes.
But when I go out and see children with no legs begging on the streets.
I see animals with eyes rotting in their sockets scavaging the trash.
Do I feel like I am the last one on earth with a problem ? NO.
Friends are for passing time. When you are too busy filling your life with meaningful things , your friends won't really matter to you.
Yes I agree partially with you. But I DO help others. YOu ought to see me, but only I know. In CIP for example, Flag Day, I'd be one of the few who'd stand throughout the required time and ask for donatinos from every passing person. My can would always be the heaviest and fullest among my friends. They would go and catch a movie and dumb like 5 cent coins in it to fill it up. I am doing voluntary CIP, in fact, I did CIP for SPCA during the JUne Holidays cause I love working with animals. It's really sad to see those animals euthanised after 2 weeks. If I had the capability to do so, I would adopt as many pets as my house would allow.Originally posted by zeny:Life sucks rite?
No one wants to talk to you and u feel like killing yourself?
JC is a place where studies counts and girls usually go for the ones that are clever and smart enough.
maybe you should help others.
Try this instead of hoping your classmates to be your real friend. why not use your time to help others who are really in need?
There are many people who need help in shelters and in greater stress than you.
Call any helpline to register to help others.
unless you are too lazy?
JC people are well know for snobbish and think highly of themselves.
Why let this people push you down?
Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:Yes I agree partially with you. But I DO help others. YOu ought to see me, but only I know. In CIP for example, Flag Day, I'd be one of the few who'd stand throughout the required time and ask for donatinos from every passing person. My can would always be the heaviest and fullest among my friends. They would go and catch a movie and dumb like 5 cent coins in it to fill it up. I am doing voluntary CIP, in fact, I did CIP for SPCA during the JUne Holidays cause I love working with animals. It's really sad to see those animals euthanised after 2 weeks. If I had the capability to do so, I would adopt as many pets as my house would allow.
I also agree with you cause I should not have gone from a neighbourhood school to a top 5 JC. The culture is so different. Maybe that's why I canot fit in.
hm. sometimes when u expect something in return, u will end up getting nothing.Thanks alot. That kinda made my day.
so yup, just try to take things as it is.
try not to expect anything in return.
as they've always said, the higher ya expectations, the greater the disappointments.
just continue to be nice to others but don't expect people to be nice to u in return.
after all, some people are selfish and they only want to remain at the receiving end.
we, on the giving side, shouldn't care much about what kinda returns we will get.
and who knows? u may get unexpected returns and surprises at the end of the day!
cheer up!
LOL. First thing, HOW DO YOU KNOW I'M FROM ACJC? I took great pains to keep people from knowing what JC I am inand apparently, you got it out still. Note: I even said top 5 JCs, not the 5th one. so I have no idea how you got it. Anyway, sometimes, my friends and I do talk about pets and rush into any pet shop whenever we pass one. But the thing goes back to the start, these are not true friends, they simply are going into a pet shop not because of me, but because they themselves like pets as well. What I am looking for, is just someone who is willing to OCCASIONALLY give up some of his stuff just to be a friend. Like what I would do for a good friend. I would give my life.Originally posted by lageihsif:
lol
no wonder.
my frens who went to ACJC also having a hard time there.
think they only mixes with people who have a similar culture in sec sch eg. RV
and i think discussing about animals with ur frens might be a good start. that is, for the girls who have pets at home and are those kind that will drag u to pet shops to stare at pets whenever u all happen to walk past 1
LOL. I'm taking my A levels in a few months time, then it's NS. So cannot go poly, but I do regret coming to JC in the first place. I could have gotten into a good course in poly with my O level grades.Originally posted by Agenda:so you from jc huh?
what i suggest.. transfer to poly next year.. don't choose business or design if you really not sociable.. the other schools should be quite alright
I think i understand what has happen, the people are the so call the bad ones who do bad things and when they see such a good kid like you thats why they siam.Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:Yes I agree partially with you. But I DO help others. YOu ought to see me, but only I know. In CIP for example, Flag Day, I'd be one of the few who'd stand throughout the required time and ask for donatinos from every passing person. My can would always be the heaviest and fullest among my friends. They would go and catch a movie and dumb like 5 cent coins in it to fill it up. I am doing voluntary CIP, in fact, I did CIP for SPCA during the JUne Holidays cause I love working with animals. It's really sad to see those animals euthanised after 2 weeks. If I had the capability to do so, I would adopt as many pets as my house would allow.
I also agree with you cause I should not have gone from a neighbourhood school to a top 5 JC. The culture is so different. Maybe that's why I canot fit in.
err bro he just suggested only but you are the one who confirm his guess.Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:LOL. First thing, HOW DO YOU KNOW I'M FROM ACJC? I took great pains to keep people from knowing what JC I am inand apparently, you got it out still. Note: I even said top 5 JCs, not the 5th one. so I have no idea how you got it. Anyway, sometimes, my friends and I do talk about pets and rush into any pet shop whenever we pass one. But the thing goes back to the start, these are not true friends, they simply are going into a pet shop not because of me, but because they themselves like pets as well. What I am looking for, is just someone who is willing to OCCASIONALLY give up some of his stuff just to be a friend. Like what I would do for a good friend. I would give my life.
You still don't get it , do you?Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:I always give. I dare say it myself. I give my full trust and belief in the people I meet. But I need my friends to talk to. I can't speak to my parents cause we're so distant. My good friends know more of me than my parents do. And what meaningful things are there to do as a student? If I were to see children with no legs, I'd give them cash. ANimals with diseases, I'd gladly pay for their medical services even if it eats a hole in my pocket. I've always wanted to be a vet, but I dont think my current subject combi will allow me to. I dare say I have a compassionate nature that sometimes, I expect returned by other people.
Originally posted by walesa:a very good post..
I think you have to realise having quality friendships surpass having a vast quantity of friendships any day. More importantly, having friendships in vast quantity need not necessarily translate into quality friendships.
As a matter of fact, the picture you painted (about you trying to be nice to accomodate others, etc) hardly augurs well for friendships with a solid foundation to be built. After all, you shouldn't need to try to be somebody or something else to attract friends, should you?
At the end of the day, many of the [b]best friendships in life hardly arise from you consciously going out to solicit them. By that, I am not referring to just friends whom you can hang out with or have a meal/movie with (you might realise this point will become particularly salient as you grow older and eventually step into the workforce). By that, I literally mean those friends who will be there for you when you need them (perhaps, as an example, the following would serve as some qualities which the finest friendships would possess or are capable of withstanding : these people will take you seriously when you call them at 4am for help and would go out of the way to be there for you, friendships that survive stormy rows and arguments; basically, such friendships are those where your friends can live with the differences and your needs rather than the similarities and their needs) and oftentimes, most people - if they were being completely honest - will have very few of such friendships (as a matter of fact, many people I know have no such friends).
I suppose, at this moment, it's just your loneliness getting the better of you and your desire for peer acceptance (which is perfectly understandable) that's pretty much causing the unrest that you're experiencing. As jojobeach has already mentioned (and this is something I concur fully with), an awful lot of people out there (and this is a trend I find especially common amongst women - more so than men, at least) relish and cherish being in the company of their friends, but few would actually find reliable friends whom they could share their darkest secrets with and ultimately, stick together through thick and thin through the various phases of life. At the end of the day, if you're going to have friends just to keep you company for the sake of doing so and ultimately drift apart for whatever reasons (be they work, marriage or other commitments), you're merely getting a companion for a transient phase of your life which is hardly what you would call a true friend, isn't it?
In essence, I don't see how this issue could supercede the importance of your A levels which will undeniably hold a more influential key towards dictating the paths available to you in later life. If I were in your shoes, I'm pretty sure a fleeting moment of peer acceptance isn't going to be worth a lifetime's worth of satisfaction and joy.[/b]
Hmmm... maybe you should see it in another view. It could be possible that they have already formed a clique and decided to disinclude you from their clique. All they do is talk to on another, have fun with one another and go out with one another... often without you in the picture, despite efforts trying to be grouped along with them...Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:Basically, I cannot seem to bond with my class. For example, I would try to socialise with the others by sitting at their table for lunch break, but, all they ever do is talk among themselves while I eat. A lot of times, I finsh eating in silence then walk away, I dont even think they noticed. It makes me feel invisible so I stopped sitting with them after a while. Then now, they still dont notice whenever I'm gone. I'm not demanding attention or anything, I just want to be part of a group that bonds together. I mean, the rest of them are fine, so it is confirmed that something is wrong with me. Is it my appearance? or my attitude? I try to be nice a lot of times.
Sorry to break it to you bro... But she does not seem to like you as much as she likes 'the other guy'. She likes that guy... and makes an effort to cause him to sit beside her than letting you sit next to her... You try to get to know her better but she is trying to know that guy better, obviously she is interested in that guy...Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:For example: this girl in my class, with whom I have a similar timetable to, I want to get to know her as a friend. Then I try to sit beside her in class. This is how she treats me: When she wants something, she is very nice, smiles and all. But when she doesn't need anything from me, she is PMS and ^%@!&y. But when another guy, also a friend that share the similar timetable comes in, she'd ask me to move away from her so that the guy can sit beside her. Like today, I went in class with that guy friend, she looked at him, only at him, and said "You can sit beside me" That really hurt me a lot, but I try to be nice and I just move away.
Wow... we really have a lot in common... Well, you have to take things easy and not think too much... you are in JC so that you can study hard and go to University! I know that it is very frustrating that no matter what you do, your actions are hardly being noticed and people do not often 'open themselves up' to you... It is not wrong being serious or nice... but it is certainly wrong trying to be fun or trying to be someone that you are not - people can detect that you are being very superficial and consider you mad. Be yourself. Be true to your personality... If you feel that people reject you because you are serious, so be it! They are missing out how nice a friend you really are...Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:That is only once example from a person. as for the class, they wont notice me when I'm gone. Not even a 'Bye!' Class activities, I am the last one to know and conversations, I have to always initiate and not be the one who gets talked to. Instead I'll be the one doing the talking to someone else just in order to seem more sociable. Honestly, I am jealous of how my other guy friends get attention from the other people. Maybe it's because they think I'm a very serious person, but I try to be a fun person and they think I've gone "mad".
Please do not! I say... DO NOT do anything foolish!Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:I mean, it's nice to feel loved by someone else and feel that you play a part in this community. I mean, everyone else in that community seems to get along fine. It must be just me and I'm already having some problems with this. I think I'm cracking under it. I've considered taking 30 panadols after someone I wanted in a relationship rejected me. Also, i have been saying and hearing these voices of both myself and other people. Sometimes, I'd even have conversations with the voices as though they were real people. I don't want to see a doctor cause what would the rest of the class think of me when they know I'm mentally unstable? Help me please. I'm desperate. I've bought the panadol already.
The truth of the matter is, most people will hardly ever have more than a few close friends. While it's easy for many to call just about everyone they're remotely connected with a "friend", it's not hard to understand these friendships vary in degrees of strength.Originally posted by the_fallen:a very good post..
but there's a part which i agree to only a certain extent..
the more friends you have, the better, because it helps in the long run..
example if there's a retrenchment wave in Singapore...(or whole asian) does having a few quality frens helps u in finding a job easily or when u have more friends easier?
having more friends means that we can help one another in times whereby there's really a need to work together..
but at normal times, just having a few good frens who will be able to lend u a shoulder or listening you when you need one..
that's what i learnt over the years..
In my opinion, u should concentrate on your studies first. A Levels are really important to your future and career prospects.Originally posted by PlsDunBanMe:LOL. I'm taking my A levels in a few months time, then it's NS. So cannot go poly, but I do regret coming to JC in the first place. I could have gotten into a good course in poly with my O level grades.