Originally posted by curiousOrange:This is obviously a skewed example and far from being applicable exhaustively to all cases.
LetÂ’s imagine a scenario then.
You have been eyeing this girl in your office for about 2 months.
You play James Blunt’s “You’re beautiful” every night and stalk her every night in your dreams.
You are interested to know anything about her, her hobbies, her habits, her love life etc.
Then one day, she gives you a call and asks you for a date.
Are you going to say no?
Yes, you have some birthday party you need to attend.
Think again! The girl of your dream just called!
Are you really going to say no because itÂ’s impolite to reject a friend of 10 years?
CanÂ’t you arrange something else after the party? Or maybe ask her to join the party?
The above scenario would hopefully make my point clear to you.
If you want a girl to say yes to dating and possibly smooching you after a matter of 2 months, you have to play your cards right and she has to be HIGHLY INTERESTED.
When I say highly interested, it means you are right up there in her wanted list.
She views you as equal importance to her best friends.
In this case, I probably have to flip several pages before I can see your name on that list.
Obviously, you can simply ask her whether sheÂ’s ready to be your girlfriend.
Her most likely reply is she needs time.
well, what i can say is that.. all gals can treat u very good as a good fren.Originally posted by daniu82:I had known a ger for abt 2 mths and she is from my workplace but she is not in the company anymore. I tried to get close to her by helping her with her work and it is very obvious until almost everyone in the company already noe tat i like her. I have not feel so strongly for a ger b4, therefore i tink she is the one for mi after interacting and finding out more abt her. I even sent her home for a couple of times and even she is not in the company anymore, i msg her everyday and with positive reply each time. The problem i have is tat i dunno if she likes mi or not and i dun have previous experience to rely on..... Can anybody tell mi wat should i do next or should i ask her if she likes mi or not this early, cos i scare this might scare her away..... Any signs that i can see if she is interested in mi also?
bringing out doesnt mean anything yet = = i personally went out many times with gal alone but it was just fren.. so does she.. = = but if shes looking forward to it, then its good.. u can get to know her more be4 u can commit yourselfOriginally posted by Perception:What about me?
- went out already 1st time
- she asked me to bring her out again after i'm back from overseas![]()
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let me tell u, ur clear for take off so go for it.....u'll succeedOriginally posted by daniu82:I had known a ger for abt 2 mths and she is from my workplace but she is not in the company anymore. I tried to get close to her by helping her with her work and it is very obvious until almost everyone in the company already noe tat i like her. I have not feel so strongly for a ger b4, therefore i tink she is the one for mi after interacting and finding out more abt her. I even sent her home for a couple of times and even she is not in the company anymore, i msg her everyday and with positive reply each time. The problem i have is tat i dunno if she likes mi or not and i dun have previous experience to rely on..... Can anybody tell mi wat should i do next or should i ask her if she likes mi or not this early, cos i scare this might scare her away..... Any signs that i can see if she is interested in mi also?
Please lah, what era already, still flower here and there. Today gal dun fancy flower one lah. Show money better ya, dun waste money on flower okOriginally posted by ifish:good idea..
but later the gal say crysantinum how?
u obviously have no idea who u give ur crysantimun tooOriginally posted by angel7030:Please lah, what era already, still flower here and there. Today gal dun fancy flower one lah. Show money better ya, dun waste money on flower ok
Totally agreed. This is indeed a skewed example.Originally posted by walesa:This is obviously a skewed example and far from being applicable exhaustively to all cases.
Although my stance would pretty much mirror yours (in terms of dealing with the playing hard-to-get birds), the rationale behind my actions would actually be pretty much different from yours.Originally posted by curiousOrange:
Totally agreed. This is indeed a skewed example.But this is the sure way to protect your heart.
I'm not trying to behave like an expert in this but :
Only invest your time in a woman whom you are SURE is highly interested.
That is the best way to protect your heart. [/quote]
Now that you've further clarified your point, I somehow find it both much more perplexing and enlightening...
If you need to protect your heart, you'd be better off giving it a miss (at least in this particular instance, that'd apply). The imminent flaw in such logic (and women are every bit as guilty, if not more so, as men) stems from the fact both parties, even if they were mutually interested in each other, expect the other party to initiate something. That wouldn't exactly be love if you asked me.Originally posted by curiousOrange:Now, I perfectly understand your point about the signs that constitute substantial interest. That said, it is equally important and imperative to note that most Asian women - as a matter of fact, it's an issue with the Asian culture more than anything specifically related to the dating game - would not actually take the initiative to suggest alternative arrangements even if she were interested in the bloke (there's no doubt this, to me, should very much be taken for granted as you suggested simply because it's basic courtesy to do so). In that sense, it's pretty hard to conclude the woman is not into the guy just because she doesn't take the initiative to propose an alternative arrangement, is it? Obviously, it's ultimately still down to the bloke to decide if this investment is worth his time.
IF she is willing to arrange a later time to meet up on that day - Yes, she is interested. Go.
If she counter offers another day - Yes, she is interested. Go.
If she asks you whether you are interested to join the party - Yes.
If she decides to go to the party (or decides to play hard to get) - Simply take it as no and put her on the backburner until you see some positive response.
Leave out the exceptions, her dog is sick, she needs to visit dentist, her friend is having a party...blah blah blah.
But at the end of the day, your analysis could be wrong.
It is possible that she is highly interested, but fails to make any kind of offer to you. So you missed out on one who potentially could be a good partner.
But the bottomline is this; you have not invested too much of your time and effort in her, move on to the next one.
I am not equipped to read her mind, I will pick definite signs that she is interested and go with that.
Exceptions complicate matters.
You will be left dwelling, not knowing whether to pull back or go for it.
[quote]Originally posted by curiousOrange:
Then again, the thread starter can choose to ignore this skewed example and simply ask her whether she's ready to date him.
My guess is she will say she's not ready.
And I believe the threadstarter will not give up just like that...
He has already invested pretty much in her (that's the problem when you fail to leave out exceptions and protect your heart).
He is probably reluctant to let go just like that.
go for it.....best of luckOriginally posted by daniu82:I feel that she is the one for me already, cos i am usually a person who likes to observe a ger tat i like for some time and from a distance and usually i would not make the 1st move..... But this time i also dunno why i will make a move so fast and without much consideration... maybe the feeling is right..... I dun have past experience to rely on cos this is the 1st time i am doing this and i ask my friends around mi for advices.... Maybe you all might laugh at mi but i am already 25 and this is the 1st time i dare to do pursue a ger that i really like...... I would really wan to ask her if she likes mi or not but on the other hand, i am scare that she might reject mi.... I will not give up easily....
I admire your train of thoughts.Originally posted by walesa:Now that you've further clarified your point, I somehow find it both much more perplexing and enlightening...
If you need to protect your heart, you'd be better off giving it a miss (at least in this particular instance, that'd apply). The imminent flaw in such logic (and women are every bit as guilty, if not more so, as men) stems from the fact both parties, even if they were mutually interested in each other, expect the other party to initiate something. That wouldn't exactly be love if you asked me.
Don't bother about people who thinks it's funny.Originally posted by daniu82:Maybe you all might laugh at mi but i am already 25 and this is the 1st time i dare to do pursue a ger that i really like...... I would really wan to ask her if she likes mi or not but on the other hand, i am scare that she might reject mi.... I will not give up easily....