I don't want 'good results'...
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i do agree that one of the reasons we study hard, is to meet with people's expectations. when i say people i mean your parents your tutors or whatever.
but what really happens is, higher expectations would be set for you each time you meet it. yes sure for a start meeting the expectations would be easy. and with all the praises you receive you feel good. but as time goes on, when these expectations gets higher, you tend to fear and hence creating stress for yourself thinking that you might not be able to fulfil the requirements for people's expectations.
i do agree with most of the replies about us living in a competitive world. its true afterall don't you agree? you may think that people like bill gates, toby maguire and others, made it big in the industry though they were school drop-outs. BUT as jojo said how often do you see dropouts making it big? maybe they had the talent.. do you?
people comment on you simply because they know what you're worth. they know your capabilities and are trying to help you along with it. there's also a difference between encouragement and putting you down.
for me i believe that everything comes with a reason. perhaps you just haven't found your reason to study. study to meet the expectations of others? study to get that cert? study for your future? study to impress? what? you decide. i used to always get fustrated with my parents nagging me to study and all. but i'm just simply plain lazy to study. now thinking back, i really regretted my past actions. i mean looking things from your parents POV, you spend so much money on your son send him to school to study, he comes home and play game and gets bad results at the end of the day, how do you think they feel? or perhaps if your children were to do this in the future how would you feel then?
i guess you should just intake whatever advises thrown to you and filter out the unnecessary ones. i believe you should be old enough to decide what's good and what's bad for you
unless you tell me you wanna convert to be a holy person and give up everything you have to walk the righteous way. if this is what you're thinking, i cannot help but will support you -
Good results can be important for many reasons. For some it can open the doors to their dream job.
There are people out there who possess great interest in becoming scientists, mathematicians, economists, bankers, doctors, lawyers etc. To get into these fields, they would require good results in the appropriate subjects. Even hairdressers, cooks, beauticians and insurance agents are required to pass exams and show results.
Sometimes, these people lack the necessary funding to reach their dream profession. Good results will help them obtain scholarships and awards.
Perhaps you find studying and scoring good grades meaningless now because you do not have a goal in life yet? I once faced the same problem and chose to neglect my grades. Now that i found my life's interest, I regret deeply because my poor 'A' levels grades severely hampered my chances to get into the profession i crave for.
It is a blessing to be able to earn a living doing the things one likes. Don't waste the chances you have though they might seem useless right now.
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don't want good results then forget it. but don't regret when you get a crap life next time in the future.
after all, it is others (your bosses) who will eventually decide where you go and what you become. -
If you have the opportunity to study, while many others dont, why not make the best use of it while you can. If you work hard, study smart, and learn well, there is very little chance for you not to get good grades. Employers often judge if you are a good work by your results. You dont need excellent scholarly kind of results, but you will at least have an easier time finding jobs with decent results. Recently I was choosing companies for my industrial attachments and I was pretty shock to realise that some of the higher paying companies require their interns to have excellent results as pre-requisite to apply. So probably what they meant by excellent results would be at least 2nd upper onwards.
Good results does not mean u will be a success in life, but it will smooth the path for you. The problem I have is more about ppl taking education for granted. There are millions of people around the world who have no means to an education, even for many in first world countries like USA. And down here in singapore, most people have the means to an education, and they dont treasure it. It's a shame really. -
Getting good exam results is prestige? What an utter rubbish! If you can't attain good results, admit that you r not up to mark. Don't give silly excuses.
Meeting other people's expectations? Other than your parents, I don't think anyone can have any expectation of you. But whether your parents' expectations are too high is another issue. When it is your turn to become a parent, I wonder if your expectation of your children is for them to be failures in life!
Quit giving excuses. Buck up. Set your 'own' expectation that is achievable, exemplary and meaningful. Stop whinning and face the real world. -
My parents aren't giving me a lot of the pressure. In fact, they have been pretty okay with whatever results I've gotten so far over the years. They just told me to do my best and not to over-stress myself.
As for what I want to do in the future, I really don't know. I don't even know what I should study in the uni, if I am ever going there in the first place.
Initially, I thought of being a pianist. But that's impossible regardless of how good my academic results can be. Simply because I am self-taught, and the Asian society cares a lot about certificate (self-taught=no cert).
So this is one of the reason why I think me studying is meaningless.
Another reason is that all along, I've been doing my best in my studies. Be it PSLE, O'level. But I see no gain from it.
In primary school, we are told that if we study hard for our PSLE, we'll be happy in the future. In secondary school, we are told that if we study hard for our O'level, we'll be happy in the future. Now, I'm told that if I work hard, I'll be happy in the future.
But just look at the JC tutors alone. They are reasonably well-educated. But they come to school earlier than us at 7am, leave the school later than us at 10pm. And they earn just a few K per month?
Granted, some of them are passionate about their job. That's fine. But I don't believe that every single one of them enjoy doing such job. They must have studied very hard during their school days. Yet their are still working their guts out now, 10 to 50 years after they have left the school.
And that's just one example of even how educated people don't seem to find happiness.
But then, I agree with teraexa that now that there's only two months left, might as well push on and see what I can do.
Finally, I think something can only be an excuse if one's performance are bad. My expectations of myself is to achieve something beyond academic success, that's why I don't think good results matter as much as what the people around me are saying (like I'll drop dead if I do badly...) -
DON'T WORRY. This is normal.Originally posted by lameimaginator:My parents aren't giving me a lot of the pressure. In fact, they have been pretty okay with whatever results I've gotten so far over the years. They just told me to do my best and not to over-stress myself.
As for what I want to do in the future, I really don't know. I don't even know what I should study in the uni, if I am ever going there in the first place.
Western society and the rest of the know world cares a lot about certificate too! The world is filled with cheaters who would lie about their abilities for monetary reasons. Certification is an efficient and low cost way to differentiate the real from the fake. It is too costly to engage people to do work without certification. (Certification can mean grades, professional certs, portfolios and resumes etc)Originally posted by lameimaginator:Initially, I thought of being a pianist. But that's impossible regardless of how good my academic results can be. Simply because I am self-taught, and the Asian society cares a lot about certificate (self-taught=no cert).
So this is one of the reason why I think me studying is meaningless.
If you are really interested in music, start indulging in music related activities! Read about the history of music, learn about the great pianists that came before you, learn to compose and great your own scores, learn mathematical Set Music Theory. Have you taken your piano certification course? Thought of enrolling in music school?
If you do excel in these "academic" activities, you stand the chance of going to really good international music schools on scholarships and becoming an acclaimed pianist in the future. No, money won't fall in your lap. Yes, the journey will be tough. Excelling in life is never easy.
When you realise your true interest in life, you will thank your great 'A' and 'O' levels grades. It is all true: if you study hard now u will be happy in the future.Originally posted by lameimaginator:Another reason is that all along, I've been doing my best in my studies. Be it PSLE, O'level. But I see no gain from it.
In primary school, we are told that if we study hard for our PSLE, we'll be happy in the future. In secondary school, we are told that if we study hard for our O'level, we'll be happy in the future. Now, I'm told that if I work hard, I'll be happy in the future.
Do NOT end up in a situation where you have something you like to do but you are bar from doing it due to your past grades.
I am going to say something controversial (I'm sorry!):Originally posted by lameimaginator:But just look at the JC tutors alone. They are reasonably well-educated. But they come to school earlier than us at 7am, leave the school later than us at 10pm. And they earn just a few K per month?
Granted, some of them are passionate about their job. That's fine. But I don't believe that every single one of them enjoy doing such job. They must have studied very hard during their school days. Yet their are still working their guts out now, 10 to 50 years after they have left the school.
And that's just one example of even how educated people don't seem to find happiness.
JC tutors are probably the bottom of the barrel when it comes to academic excellence. Usually, students who didn't do so well in school end up taking up a teaching job in a primary/secondary/JC as a last resort. Yes, there might be some passionate ones.
Students who study very hard go to place likes Harvard and Princeton. They graduate with top honors and seek lucrative employment in high finance, law, consulting, medicine, research etc.
Last year, Goldman Sachs paid out an average of US$500k in bonus alone to its employees. Don't even think of entering if you didn't come from a top university. (if you think NUS and NTU are top uni, please do a search on "Ivy League" ) Boston and Mckinsley are top notch corporate finance consulting firms that won't even interview people who didn't top their university batch.
Do NOT end up like your JC tutors. Study hard and get the grades!
Two months is enough to get straight ace. Do it. What they say is 100% true. Results are VITAL in getting to the places you want. Do not fark this up! GOOD LUCK!Originally posted by lameimaginator:But then, I agree with teraexa that now that there's only two months left, might as well push on and see what I can do.
Finally, I think something can only be an excuse if one's performance are bad. My expectations of myself is to achieve something beyond academic success, that's why I don't think good results matter as much as what the people around me are saying (like I'll drop dead if I do badly...)
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Originally posted by lameimaginator:
Your parents don't stress you up, because they know it would only cause you to lose interest in your studies. That's the last thing they want to do. So it's purely logical.
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As for what I want to do in the future, I really don't know. I don't even know what I should study in the uni, if I am ever going there in the first place.
Initially, I thought of being a pianist. But that's impossible regardless of how good my academic results can be. Simply because I am self-taught, and the Asian society cares a lot about certificate (self-taught=no cert).
So this is one of the reason why I think me studying is meaningless.
Another reason is that all along, I've been doing my best in my studies. Be it PSLE, O'level. But I see no gain from it.
In primary school, we are told that if we study hard for our PSLE, we'll be happy in the future. In secondary school, we are told that if we study hard for our O'level, we'll be happy in the future. Now, I'm told that if I work hard, I'll be happy in the future.
But just look at the JC tutors alone. They are reasonably well-educated. But they come to school earlier than us at 7am, leave the school later than us at 10pm. And they earn just a few K per month?
And that's just one example of even how educated people don't seem to find happiness.
But then, I agree with teraexa that now that there's only two months left, might as well push on and see what I can do.
Finally, I think something can only be an excuse if one's performance are bad. My expectations of myself is to achieve something beyond academic success, that's why I don't think good results matter as much as what the people around me are saying (like I'll drop dead if I do badly...)[/b]
Even if you don't want to go to uni, you must still decide what you want to do.
Say, you go poly, which course will you take ?
What kind of entry requirements will you need ?
You see no gain from your studies ?
Sure, because you havn't even started plowing your field yet.
Right now, you're only sorting out the seeds.
Studying is only the PREPARATION part.
So, don't jump your gun yet , ok ?
Getting great results won't guarantee you happiness.
BUT it sure WILL prevent you from MISERY.
Now, do you want to be miserable ? I sure hope not.
Excuse me hor, Pianist also requires a degree ok ?
You think any tom dick and harry can anyhow claim they are pianist ah ?
So you want to achieve something beyond academic success.
What is it you really want to achieve ?
You are a big boy. Don't tell me you don't know what you really want.
Sit down and think.
Right now, the image I have of you, is this guy, rowing fast and hard in the ocean... not knowing where to go.
All he does row and row, until he is so exhausted.
Then he gives up rowing because he see himself not getting anywhere.
While many of us sees you from a birds eye view, telling you not to give up.
Because surrounding this row boat many miles away, islands with pristine waters and white sandy beach, pretty girls and beach front huts.. awaits. -
Actually, happiness does not depend on how much you study, how well you do. Neither does it depend on how much you earn, what job you hold, what reputation you have.
It depends on you. If you want to be happy, be.
The above statement may sound idealistic to some. But not to me. I think the reason why so many of us are wired to think that having a good education and stable job will prevent us from misery is because we place too much emphasis and attachment on material well-being.
Mankind is, materially, better off than they are 1000 years ago. But are they any wiser, are they any better off? Just seeing alone how this so called 'civilised' and 'educated' civilisation wage war on one another on the pretext of 'liberty' and 'honor' (educated-sounding, but still lame, excuses), I doubt so.
Perhaps some may that without money, you can't be any where happy. If you have to worry about how to put the next meal on the table, you can't think of anything else.
But is that true? Some people are known to give up their high-paying job, live on zero income, and get themselves involved in voluntarism, living on the bare neccesity in live. Others simply just give up whatever they have, realising that their endless pursue to 'success' is the source of their misery, and just live peaceful life!
TS claimed to have studied till 2p.m, and wake up at 6a.m to study again. That's around 20 hours a day. If you have to give up 20 hours a day of your lives just to get 2 Bs, what price do you have to pay for straight As? And like others have said, in this competitive society, you can get nowhere without having straight As.
So what's the point? That 20 hours a day can certainly be exchanged for something more meaningful. True, there may a nice island with beautiful babe and nice cool coconut trees a few miles away. But why fight so hard against the current when you can also enjoy your peace and serenity in the boat?
Just offering an alternative viewpoint. -
threadstarter, what i can say to you is...
dun bitch online, want people to hear u loud and clear? go out and say it to them directly.. inform them, shout at them, scream at them, bitch to them, fark them..
that's just me and my thinkings.. but of cos some of the things i dun say it out.. i feel i am a damn freakin hypocrite, but bo bian reali muz keep my mouth shut to protect my studies/job/future.. *hint garment.
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okay maybe i am the optimistic guy, but one do not always have to work under someone.Originally posted by unclebutcher:don't want good results then forget it. but don't regret when you get a crap life next time in the future.
after all, it is others (your bosses) who will eventually decide where you go and what you become. -
This, i am truly with.Originally posted by heaventhenergy:Actually, happiness does not depend on how much you study, how well you do. Neither does it depend on how much you earn, what job you hold, what reputation you have.
It depends on you. If you want to be happy, be.
The above statement may sound idealistic to some. But not to me. I think the reason why so many of us are wired to think that having a good education and stable job will prevent us from misery is because we place too much emphasis and attachment on material well-being.
Mankind is, materially, better off than they are 1000 years ago. But are they any wiser, are they any better off? Just seeing alone how this so called 'civilised' and 'educated' civilisation wage war on one another on the pretext of 'liberty' and 'honor' (educated-sounding, but still lame, excuses), I doubt so.
Perhaps some may that without money, you can't be any where happy. If you have to worry about how to put the next meal on the table, you can't think of anything else.
But is that true? Some people are known to give up their high-paying job, live on zero income, and get themselves involved in voluntarism, living on the bare neccesity in live. Others simply just give up whatever they have, realising that their endless pursue to 'success' is the source of their misery, and just live peaceful life!
TS claimed to have studied till 2p.m, and wake up at 6a.m to study again. That's around 20 hours a day. If you have to give up 20 hours a day of your lives just to get 2 Bs, what price do you have to pay for straight As? And like others have said, in this competitive society, you can get nowhere without having straight As.
So what's the point? That 20 hours a day can certainly be exchanged for something more meaningful. True, there may a nice island with beautiful babe and nice cool coconut trees a few miles away. But why fight so hard against the current when you can also enjoy your peace and serenity in the boat?
Just offering an alternative viewpoint.
But it's sad considering the society now. I told my friends, who were in JCs and currently serving the country, about living happily is the most important factor of all, they are give me this strange look. My parents are supportive of me, but my relative who strongly believe in Education is everything thinks that I am just a slacker.
Of course i am not perfect. Don't blame me, I have this idea instilled into me since young.
ITE = It's the End
( Typical Ahbengs/Ahlians school with Secret Society wannabes group here and there and senseless fighting and childish actions )
JCs = People that studies brainlessly and lack common sense and street-smart.
( Well most of my secondary school classmates were in JCs, and they really lack those mentioned )
Of course these people might be very happy with their life. I might have offended people in here, but I am just sharing what I have inside my mind. You will know who you are in yourself / or pretend to be.
ah i am just contradicting myself over and over again.. Just my rantings. -
then you wanna get lousy results then you happy izzit?
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chiobu
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Sianz. Another guy without courage to pursue dream/passion.
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summarize can ? i lazy read
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Ah yes, another alternative viewpoint.Originally posted by heaventhenergy:Actually, happiness does not depend on how much you study, how well you do. Neither does it depend on how much you earn, what job you hold, what reputation you have.
It depends on you. If you want to be happy, be.
The above statement may sound idealistic to some. But not to me. I think the reason why so many of us are wired to think that having a good education and stable job will prevent us from misery is because we place too much emphasis and attachment on material well-being.
Mankind is, materially, better off than they are 1000 years ago. But are they any wiser, are they any better off? Just seeing alone how this so called 'civilised' and 'educated' civilisation wage war on one another on the pretext of 'liberty' and 'honor' (educated-sounding, but still lame, excuses), I doubt so.
Perhaps some may that without money, you can't be any where happy. If you have to worry about how to put the next meal on the table, you can't think of anything else.
But is that true? Some people are known to give up their high-paying job, live on zero income, and get themselves involved in voluntarism, living on the bare neccesity in live. Others simply just give up whatever they have, realising that their endless pursue to 'success' is the source of their misery, and just live peaceful life!
TS claimed to have studied till 2p.m, and wake up at 6a.m to study again. That's around 20 hours a day. If you have to give up 20 hours a day of your lives just to get 2 Bs, what price do you have to pay for straight As? And like others have said, in this competitive society, you can get nowhere without having straight As.
So what's the point? That 20 hours a day can certainly be exchanged for something more meaningful. True, there may a nice island with beautiful babe and nice cool coconut trees a few miles away. But why fight so hard against the current when you can also enjoy your peace and serenity in the boat?
Just offering an alternative viewpoint.
People who possess this kind of thinking are very much welcome.
In this society, we need more people who are happy to stay at the bottom rung. That's how it has to be.
In order for the privileged to enjoy what they have.
Some one has to do the dirty work.
And in order for the workers to continue with the dirty work. They have to be happy. If not, there will be chaos.
If you chose to be, be.
Surely, one can enjoy the peace and serenity after one has arrived at the destination. Wouldn't it be more relaxing then ? To know you are no longer in the rush to get somewhere, because you are already there ?
Why savor the fleeting sweetness now, and have to pay 10 times more the price later ?