perhaps so .... I am glad and grateful that I have that kind of loving family ....Originally posted by Wanda:Now you sound like you have really led a very sheltered, lucky life. You have no idea the kind of lives some kids lead out there.
And the 2nd part about all properties automatically goes to the surviving spouse is wrong... according to the Intestate Succession Act.
You, are, such a dickhead.Originally posted by Fatum:that hurts ... and i sympathize with you ... but then again, what is rightfully yours ? ....
think about that question a bit before answering ...
I suppose I can infer from your nick what your circumstances are ? ....Originally posted by MyParentsDunWanMe:You, are, such a dickhead.
If you could not offer a decent advice to help the threadstarter, then do not respond at all.
People live different lifes and live with different circumstances. It is unfair to compare theirs with yours as yours is entirely different.
yes I know, for that I apologize to her .... but if I were her, I would not touch a cent of that money ....Originally posted by Spartans:well Fatum, u gave rational response to the TS, but u need to know when empathy is required too.
cos it's inheritance .... the only right anyone has to any inheritance is birthright, which, in my eyes, is nothing at all ...Originally posted by Master -_-:well she's been through the school of hard knocks...what's abit of "luxury"![]()
well, all you said might be right only if the dead parent set down a will saying not giving the person anything.Originally posted by Fatum:it is never right to covet something which is not yours ....
to me, inheritance is something rightfully yours only in law ... that is to say ... no one owes you anything ! ...
I do not think parents have to answer to their children about inheritance, nor do I think it right for children to question their inheritance, no matter what the circumstances .... yes, parents have an obligation to cherish and love their children, but children do not have the right to question that love, even when that is lacking ....
sides, if you hate your surviving parent so much (how can anyone hate one's parents is beyond me, sorry) ... then be independent, live your own life, neh ? ....
death without a will, all properties automatically goes to the surviving spouse, not the children ... don't expect anything ...
in anycase, lots of the circumstances about your situation remains unclear ... so pardon my natural first reaction ....
Fatum,Originally posted by Fatum:cos it's inheritance .... the only right anyone has to any inheritance is birthright, which, in my eyes, is nothing at all ...
cos that fortune is from the blood and sweat of one's parents, regardless of whether it was a love or hate relationship, the fact remains that it's not something one has worked for, has sweat for .... no one owes you an inheritance, no one cheated you of anything .... and I find it discomforting to covet something one can only get from the death of someone ... especially if it's one's beloved parents, no ? ....
that's why I asked her to ask herself what's really hers .....
ren2 jia2 bu4 ren2, ni3 jiu4 bu2 yi4 ? ... and mind you, we are not talking about fighting it out with some rapacious outsiders here, but one's own parent ...Originally posted by jojobeach:Fatum,
Your comment is one sided.
If that is the case, then the surviving spouse should also not be entitled to anything too ?
All in all, who ever takes what or is entitled to whatever is left behind, is merely a legal right.
If the only daughter has a legal right to the pot, why should she not take it ?
May I also remind you that, being a parent does not automatically makes one a saint.
There are many, who turned their backs to their own children or worst, exploit them for money/self-interest.
As long as there are imperfect children, there's also imperfect parents.
Splashed all over the tabloids ? Nothing new.Originally posted by Fatum:ren2 jia2 bu4 ren2, ni3 jiu4 bu2 yi4 ? ... and mind you, we are not talking about fighting it out with some rapacious outsiders here, but one's own parent ...
while we all hear of parents' unconditional love for their children, (and of course, we have now an example of how that's not true in this thread) ... there's also something called unconditional piety in my books ...
just as parents love their children unconditionally, regardless of their flaws, children should at least have unconditional piety, if not love, for their parents, regardless of their flaws ....
and I don't think the TS is being exploited here, eh ? ... (and yes, I admire her for toughing it out and putting herself through school and all that)
how would it look, if it goes to the courts, and get splashed all over the tabloids " tussle over dead parent's millions" ... "child fights with surviving parent over deceased's millions" ? ....
yes, perhaps I am an idealist ... and I am grateful to have the luxury to be so ....Originally posted by jojobeach:Splashed all over the tabloids ? Nothing new.
Pardon me, I live in a real world where reality does bites. I don't know about you though.
It seems TS parents doesn't practice unconditional love, so where does unconditional piety stands ?
To throw a child out before he/she is of legal age is outright irresponsible, don't you think ? Do you still consider that to be so acceptance of the child's flaw ?
This is not about ren or yi.Originally posted by Fatum:yes, perhaps I am an idealist ... and I am grateful to have the luxury to be so ....
but my first sentence above still stands ... ren jia bu ren, ni jiu bu yi ? ....
that is your solely your inference alone ....Originally posted by jojobeach:This is not about ren or yi.
You are a man, correct ?
If you have a family, and you trust your wife to take care of your children if you "touch wood" pass away suddenly.
You trust that your wife will make sure your children will be taken care of with what you have worked so hard for your whole life.
After you are dead, your wife don't carry out your wishes. She goes around with your money and forlick with another man with your money.
Your child is now in financial distress, your wife refuse to let her into the pot because the relationship between mother and child had soured.
Will you be turning in your grave ? I would.
Correct.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Yar. Half to the survive spouse, another half to alive children.
Are you a father yet ?Originally posted by Fatum:that is your solely your inference alone ....
whatever the case, I stand by my statements regardless, because I have considered the extremes of this situation ....
all I can say to the TS is, do not hate your parent regardless .... for no matter what, he will be the only father you'll ever have (okie, I'm inferring about the father here, but please re-read the TS's posts again )
and again, inheritance is a gift, and not a right ... whatever the law says ... fight for it if you like ... but be careful of what it'll do to your life and your soul ...
I hope you are not in the same situation as the TS ... if yes, I sympathize you ... but I urge you to re-read what I have typed ....Originally posted by jojobeach:Are you a father yet ?
If yes, may I suggest you get your will done , today.
If no, then I rest my case.
A man goes to a homeless beggar on the street, spits at his face and tells him how filthy the beggar is.
The man then goes back to his nice cozy home with shower and food on the table and a loving wife.
not sure about the hate parents part. it really depends on what the parent did. but i guess overall it would be good to say try not to hate the parent so easily. And in this case i don't think the TS hates the parent, seem more towards indifference and after what happened doesn't seem unreasonable.Originally posted by Fatum:that is your solely your inference alone ....
whatever the case, I stand by my statements regardless, because I have considered the extremes of this situation ....
all I can say to the TS is, do not hate your parent regardless .... for no matter what, he will be the only father you'll ever have (okie, I'm inferring about the father here, but please re-read the TS's posts again )
and again, inheritance is a gift, and not a right ... whatever the law says ... fight for it if you like ... but be careful of what it'll do to your life and your soul ...
I am not in similar situation as the TS.Originally posted by Fatum:I hope you are not in the same situation as the TS ... if yes, I sympathize you ... but I urge you to re-read what I have typed ....
if not ... then I feel sorry for your parents ... for they do not have your unconditional love ......
that's why I say I pity your parents ... for they do not have your unconditional love ....Originally posted by jojobeach:I am not in similar situation as the TS.
And I do not condemn her doings.
Unlike yourself with such idealistic believes that will not work in this realistic world.
An irresponsible parent does not deserve unconditional love from their own child.
LOL... ok never mind.Originally posted by Fatum:that's why I say I pity your parents ... for they do not have your unconditional love ....
for you seem to tie your love for your parents according to how your parents loves you (or not) ......
are you a father now ? ...... what if your child hates you ? ... would you still love your child then ? ....
I am sure your parents love you dearly, and may you find it within yourself to love them unconditionally too, come what may .....