wow..
i won't wanna be in your situation..
the bookie thing, calling the police might not help.. but that's the only way now..
one can only do so much, you can't expect yourself to look after every single thing that happen to your family members..
you survived through the accident, why don't wanna live anymore?
your parents spent so much [ surgery etc ] and you want to waste their efforts?
do your part, try to be happy.. simple decent meals and close family ties are what everyone craves..
don't think of suiciding, it makes your parents even more unhappy..
be brave and live on
Call police. If still cannot work, see MP.
If your brother is truly willing to right a wrong, then surrender himself to the police and let those bookies be caught. First-time offenders for illegal gambling would just be slapped with a fine of 1 grand.
You mentioned that he is still in his secondary school, so I shall assume he's probably below 17... If that's the case, he might sentenced to probation and community work order... Whatever it is, it'd be good for him...
As for self-reproach and guilt, you should put them aside for now and solve the immediate problem first. If you haven't realize it already, the immediate problem being the bookies coming for your family in a few more hours! So don't delay! Get the cops already!
I got so much to write, but I'm already sleepy
But remember; you can't control what the bookies will do, but you are in control of your reactions. Don't face your problems with fear! Again... For the last time and love of God... CALL THE COPS...
important things first.. go to the police.. make sure they follow up because they're overworked to hell and may not do so.. if necessary, get help from the Grassroots Leaders or MPs or whatever.. just get help..
your brother may be in trouble with the law but it's going to be less than the trouble with gangsters.. a heck of a lot less.. and the judge will be fair with him if he really regrets and is willing to repent.. also, a lot of mitigating circumstances will come in... so go to the police..
the rest, you'll have to be strong and keep going..
if you think suicide, you're just inflicting even greater suffering on your loved ones..
things will get better.. hang in there.. make sure you get a good education and start working so that you can make things better..
by the way.. don't cry over spilt milk.. what is done is done.. the question is fixing it.. being depressed won't help much..
get your family.. talk to them.. have a family meeting.. iron out what you all have to do.. make decisions and then go do them..
good luck..
ur case real bad. best sent bro to police, give all info bout bookie.
Call the police -- this is your only hope
Ending life is great, i also want to end mine now. BUT y am i still here typing? My parent who never forsake me keep me alive. I cannot be so selfish by just leaving them mourning for me.
My reason I want to die: I cannot stand myself for many minor reasons, but i have to live on for certain purpose.
Dear sir,
i salute you firstly for your strength to carry on until today. we r all here for a purpose be it sad, happy success fail etc.
take the good advice given and discuss with the relevant authority such as police to assist.
meanwhile take away all those thoughts of helplessness. Pray if necessary. have faith bec some1 up there is constantly looking at each of us in our performance here. u can come so far already means something. But its not the end yet.
U CAN DO IT.
take care
Originally posted by destroybot:I hope someone can help me with my problems, recent event have make me extremely depress and i almost have no means to live anymore...
[U][B]Myself[/B][/U]
I had a terrible accident 2 years back, ended up being disabled, servered sciatic nerves from my left leg. Unable to walk without suppost, but still i continue to strive hard studying in local university hoping to achieve something in my life. During this 2 years i had tried hard to be happy and positive.[U][B]My Family[/B][/U]
My family is not a well to do family but we do tried hard to survive... only able to have decent meals everyday, i had 3 younger brother 4th brother studying in sec sch, 3rd brother serving NS and a low mentally 2nd younger brother who always get sacked from his job and now jobless. The only family income is from my mother who works as a cleaner for 600 per month and father who is a private bus driver.. income just able to support 3 meals for us.[B][U]Bad company[/U][/B]
Worst thing happened, my 3rd brother mixed up with bad company. He is very naive to trust those bad company. A group of bookies who encourage him to illegal gamble by giving him large number of credit luring him into great debt. As of this few days, i dont know how he accumulate a debt of 18k from his bookies friend.[B][U]Harrassment [/U][/B]
My family had tried to offer money and pay monthly to clear up his debt
but His groups of friend wanted demanded him to pay up 18k in 1 day, and wanted to force him borrow money from loan shark to pay up his debt. I had stopped him in time and manage to move off from his friends. Today those bookie waited downstair my house to wait for our family member to come home. My mother had been stopped by them and they demanded money from her.
[B][U]Threaten [/U][/B]
The bookie boss repeatly called my brother today and threaten to beat him up. He said if there is no money from us today in the afternoon he will not want the money anymore. My 3rd brother become very depress, he had truely repent on what he did but the bookies are not giving him any chance in repaying the debts. Yesterday i found him in serious depression and even wanted to suicide cause he is unable to face our family by causing so much trouble, He had been crying non-stop since those calls. I cant stand to see my brother so helpless...[B][U]My fault[/U][/B]
As the eldest in the family its my duty to educate my younger sibling, i feel its my fault in letting my 3rd brother go astray. If only i had been more careful, i would not be in serious traffice accident 2 years back with more than 13 surgery ( i Even had lost count). I ought to be helping my parent with the financial burden. With medical condition right now i cant work to help out......i ...cant :([B][U]Helpless[/U][/B]
What can i do now? My 3rd brother had thought of surrender to the police for the illegal gambling but those bookies will not let us go off so easily. He had repent willing to surrender but he is afraid those bookies will take revenge on our helpless family. It is seriously ruining our life. We cant go out, afraid those bookies will do something to us. I had not slept in 2 days, perhaps it is more easily if i just jump down from my house :(. What shall i do T_T................What shall i do T_T...... Another few hours in the afternoon the bookies will be here demanding money if not force my 3rd brother to borrow money from loan shark. Something bad will happen to us.
forget it. nobody will donate money to you
I didnt leave down any contact particulars right? Jamie i am not asking for donation but for advices...
Originally posted by 333225520:Call police. If still cannot work, see MP.
i tink tis is the best solution
ask the MP for help, tats why we voted for them
TS, please update? I hope all is well with you and your family.
I've seen police work from a first person perspective, please believe me that the force is capable enough to oust the mastermind. I believe that particular bookmaker is just a small time player; imagine telling his debtors to borrow from a loanshark to pay off a gambling debt.
''Bookie boss basically is heartless... even bookie runner who saw our family condition give sympathy by repeatly calling their boss to nego how to clear the debt slowly... but the boss refuses, money or my brother''
Quoting you. And how do you know they weren't play good cop bad cop? Don't let fear envelop you, fear is a mind-killer and it certainly robs you of whatever rationale to think. So my final advice to this problem is still go to the authorities without anymore delay.
As for your not-wanting-to-live-because-life-is-bad.
Let me tell you what life is about, young man. Life is about tackling problems; life is fair, even though everyone begins at different levels. Because a rich man could lose everything tomorrow and a pauper could win the world. Life is fair because our choices will lead us to where we will be. So if you choose to end your life today, not only you give up your chance to fight but also your dear family's chance of bettering their life.
For now, I encourage you to work hard and not be too affected by that small hiccup. The real test of human character only comes when the bottom drops out of their lives. Let this be your test of character.
What's the latest updates now with the bookies?
Originally posted by smartboy4:For illegal gambling IIRC it's 50k fine and up to 6 months jail term?
If you go to the police in this situation, i don't know if your brother is going to get penalty in this area.
You've already done so much in your life what's the use of killing yourself now?
There's so much things you've yet to see and do.
I had the same feeling and almost killed myself. Now I'm glad i didn't, i had done so much more things i enjoyed so far and more to come.
What's the latest updates now with the bookies?
No, I confirm it's less than 3k fine for first time offenders. What you cite is more like for the bookie.
Originally posted by Detached:
No, I confirm it's less than 3k fine for first time offenders. What you cite is more like for the bookie.
Oops i made a mistake.
It should be maximum 5k and 6 months jail.
Quoted from SPF news article
Persons convicted for acting as a bookmaker face a fine of not less
than $20,000 and not more than $200,000 and a maximum jail term of 5
years. Persons convicted for betting with an illegal bookmaker face a
maximum fine of $5,000 or a maximum jail term of 6 months
Originally posted by destroybot:I hope someone can help me with my problems, recent event have make me extremely depress and i almost have no means to live anymore...
[U][B]Myself[/B][/U]
I had a terrible accident 2 years back, ended up being disabled, servered sciatic nerves from my left leg. Unable to walk without suppost, but still i continue to strive hard studying in local university hoping to achieve something in my life. During this 2 years i had tried hard to be happy and positive.[U][B]My Family[/B][/U]
My family is not a well to do family but we do tried hard to survive... only able to have decent meals everyday, i had 3 younger brother 4th brother studying in sec sch, 3rd brother serving NS and a low mentally 2nd younger brother who always get sacked from his job and now jobless. The only family income is from my mother who works as a cleaner for 600 per month and father who is a private bus driver.. income just able to support 3 meals for us.[B][U]Bad company[/U][/B]
Worst thing happened, my 3rd brother mixed up with bad company. He is very naive to trust those bad company. A group of bookies who encourage him to illegal gamble by giving him large number of credit luring him into great debt. As of this few days, i dont know how he accumulate a debt of 18k from his bookies friend.[B][U]Harrassment [/U][/B]
My family had tried to offer money and pay monthly to clear up his debt
but His groups of friend wanted demanded him to pay up 18k in 1 day, and wanted to force him borrow money from loan shark to pay up his debt. I had stopped him in time and manage to move off from his friends. Today those bookie waited downstair my house to wait for our family member to come home. My mother had been stopped by them and they demanded money from her.
[B][U]Threaten [/U][/B]
The bookie boss repeatly called my brother today and threaten to beat him up. He said if there is no money from us today in the afternoon he will not want the money anymore. My 3rd brother become very depress, he had truely repent on what he did but the bookies are not giving him any chance in repaying the debts. Yesterday i found him in serious depression and even wanted to suicide cause he is unable to face our family by causing so much trouble, He had been crying non-stop since those calls. I cant stand to see my brother so helpless...[B][U]My fault[/U][/B]
As the eldest in the family its my duty to educate my younger sibling, i feel its my fault in letting my 3rd brother go astray. If only i had been more careful, i would not be in serious traffice accident 2 years back with more than 13 surgery ( i Even had lost count). I ought to be helping my parent with the financial burden. With medical condition right now i cant work to help out......i ...cant :([B][U]Helpless[/U][/B]
What can i do now? My 3rd brother had thought of surrender to the police for the illegal gambling but those bookies will not let us go off so easily. He had repent willing to surrender but he is afraid those bookies will take revenge on our helpless family. It is seriously ruining our life. We cant go out, afraid those bookies will do something to us. I had not slept in 2 days, perhaps it is more easily if i just jump down from my house :(. What shall i do T_T................What shall i do T_T...... Another few hours in the afternoon the bookies will be here demanding money if not force my 3rd brother to borrow money from loan shark. Something bad will happen to us.
When you got problem try to find solution.Ok you are right think positive
I won't like if i am in your situation and no one like?
As you say it is a accident and you MUST move on!!!Call police to handle if there very threaten you you guys need a greater power to solve those problem.
Cheers always think of the bright side!Life is great!!!
Your problem is fear.
The rest are just details.
As for your handicap, the secret is to focus on what you still have, and build on that. Focus on what you can do. Do not dwell on what you don't have anymore. Do not lament what you cannot do.
neg with the bookie 2 pay back by installments? bookies actually want money they threaten to frighten only but they will think twice before doing anything
Don't worry. There is always a way out of problems. I am facing problems in studies and I feel very stressed. Everyday got projects to do. I work very hard and slog but I don't do very well still. But I just carry on with life. This is an unfair world...
. I put myself in ur shoes and know what you are feeling. I really pity you and people who are in the same situation.
Just try to be cheerful and the knot should slowly untangle and you can get on with life.
Take care!![]()
Originally posted by destroybot:I hope someone can help me with my problems, recent event have make me extremely depress and i almost have no means to live anymore...
[U][B]Myself[/B][/U]
I had a terrible accident 2 years back, ended up being disabled, servered sciatic nerves from my left leg. Unable to walk without suppost, but still i continue to strive hard studying in local university hoping to achieve something in my life. During this 2 years i had tried hard to be happy and positive.[U][B]My Family[/B][/U]
My family is not a well to do family but we do tried hard to survive... only able to have decent meals everyday, i had 3 younger brother 4th brother studying in sec sch, 3rd brother serving NS and a low mentally 2nd younger brother who always get sacked from his job and now jobless. The only family income is from my mother who works as a cleaner for 600 per month and father who is a private bus driver.. income just able to support 3 meals for us.[B][U]Bad company[/U][/B]
Worst thing happened, my 3rd brother mixed up with bad company. He is very naive to trust those bad company. A group of bookies who encourage him to illegal gamble by giving him large number of credit luring him into great debt. As of this few days, i dont know how he accumulate a debt of 18k from his bookies friend.[B][U]Harrassment [/U][/B]
My family had tried to offer money and pay monthly to clear up his debt
but His groups of friend wanted demanded him to pay up 18k in 1 day, and wanted to force him borrow money from loan shark to pay up his debt. I had stopped him in time and manage to move off from his friends. Today those bookie waited downstair my house to wait for our family member to come home. My mother had been stopped by them and they demanded money from her.
[B][U]Threaten [/U][/B]
The bookie boss repeatly called my brother today and threaten to beat him up. He said if there is no money from us today in the afternoon he will not want the money anymore. My 3rd brother become very depress, he had truely repent on what he did but the bookies are not giving him any chance in repaying the debts. Yesterday i found him in serious depression and even wanted to suicide cause he is unable to face our family by causing so much trouble, He had been crying non-stop since those calls. I cant stand to see my brother so helpless...[B][U]My fault[/U][/B]
As the eldest in the family its my duty to educate my younger sibling, i feel its my fault in letting my 3rd brother go astray. If only i had been more careful, i would not be in serious traffice accident 2 years back with more than 13 surgery ( i Even had lost count). I ought to be helping my parent with the financial burden. With medical condition right now i cant work to help out......i ...cant :([B][U]Helpless[/U][/B]
What can i do now? My 3rd brother had thought of surrender to the police for the illegal gambling but those bookies will not let us go off so easily. He had repent willing to surrender but he is afraid those bookies will take revenge on our helpless family. It is seriously ruining our life. We cant go out, afraid those bookies will do something to us. I had not slept in 2 days, perhaps it is more easily if i just jump down from my house :(. What shall i do T_T................What shall i do T_T...... Another few hours in the afternoon the bookies will be here demanding money if not force my 3rd brother to borrow money from loan shark. Something bad will happen to us.
Destroybot,
It isn't your fault that lead your brother ends up in bad company. He has a head that can think for himself and he is ultimately responsible for his own action. Let him take this as a life lesson.. he will learn it well.
Hmm i think you should report to the authority and let the authority deal with the bookies.. eventually.
Don't ever incur more debts by borrowing from the loanshark.. which u have already done.
Take a deep breath. There is really nothing in the world that you can't handle.
eat 2 meals a day, thats what i did before i had to take my medicine
if they insisted to pay up in full instead of installment, ask your bro sink the ship by calling police.
I had an accident once, i couldn't feel or move from neck downwards,
When I miraculously recovered, i only had god to thank. Walking alone is a blessing, breathing is a blessing, it is good just to be recovered. It only takes a bit of grace to forgive those who may have caused you harm.
Death will come to us all, but only god can take my life away now, not myself, i wait for my time to return.