i'm currently studying in local uni. initially i have no interest in studying in uni but this practical society force me to. so i took up bank loans. taking a 4 yrs course, 6K a yr, all in all i've gonna pay 24K++ once i grad, don't forget abt the interests.
seeing my poly grad friends selling insurance, seems like they are really making it big out there. i'm not sure how much they are earning each month, but i believe they are earning big, with all the hardwork they have put in. 1 of them have bought a car, while another is planning to buy 1 soon.
i'm wondering, if one can make it big without a degree, just by selling insurance etc, what's the point of studying so hard for a degree? right now they are earning so much and even have the ability to own cars while on the other hand, i'm in huge debts and once i grad i've gonna work extra hard to pay for my debts, give money to my parents etc. no money no honey, when can i get married? 10 years down the road? beats me.
to be honest, i can't see my future. am i suffering from some kinda depression? or perhaps am i thinking too much? i don't know.
Avoid comparing yourself with others. Not everyone selling insurance is successful. For each successful person you know, there might be many others that have failed or are barely surviving.
Taking a degree just gives you more options in future. It doesn't assure you can make it big or not cause that is affected by many other factors and also abit of luck at times.
What course are you studying and NTU or NUS? Did you do badly in your 1st year to make you feel this way? First year results is not everything since results can still be pulled up in your coming 2nd year.
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what practical society force you to study? somebody take a gun and force you to study?
don't blame it on the society. you yourself make the choice to study a degree.
I am a diploma holder who have started working. I have no intention to take a degree despite my parents and friends ask me to do so. I won't say they are forcing me to take a degree more like persuading me to study.
I don't sell insurance just a normal office job earning less than 2k a month but I am happy as I spend little and can save 50% of my salary every month
Originally posted by dkcx:Avoid comparing yourself with others. Not everyone selling insurance is successful. For each successful person you know, there might be many others that have failed or are barely surviving.
Taking a degree just gives you more options in future. It doesn't assure you can make it big or not cause that is affected by many other factors and also abit of luck at times.
What course are you studying and NTU or NUS? Did you do badly in your 1st year to make you feel this way? First year results is not everything since results can still be pulled up in your coming 2nd year.
ntu sce. yes. i did badly for my first year.
not every insurance agent makes it.....have you seen the many agents loitering around bus interchanges and getting waved off.....don't envy, while studying can be tedious it is a commodity of convenience for a basic entry into middle class, just get the degree....you can plan for something after the studies........
Originally posted by trashbag:say
what practical society force you to study? somebody take a gun and force you to study?
don't blame it on the society. you yourself make the choice to study a degree.
I am a diploma holder who have started working. I have no intention to take a degree despite my parents and friends ask me to do so. I won't say they are forcing me to take a degree more like persuading me to study.
I don't sell insurance just a normal office job earning less than 2k a month but I am happy as I spend little and can save 50% of my salary every month
no one point a gun at me to force me. jus that nowadays people are so practical. they expect us (guys) to have at least a degree. if not, they might look down on us. i don't wanna be looked down.
Originally posted by lonestar86:i'm currently studying in local uni. initially i have no interest in studying in uni but this practical society force me to. so i took up bank loans. taking a 4 yrs course, 6K a yr, all in all i've gonna pay 24K++ once i grad, don't forget abt the interests.
seeing my poly grad friends selling insurance, seems like they are really making it big out there. i'm not sure how much they are earning each month, but i believe they are earning big, with all the hardwork they have put in. 1 of them have bought a car, while another is planning to buy 1 soon.
i'm wondering, if one can make it big without a degree, just by selling insurance etc, what's the point of studying so hard for a degree? right now they are earning so much and even have the ability to own cars while on the other hand, i'm in huge debts and once i grad i've gonna work extra hard to pay for my debts, give money to my parents etc. no money no honey, when can i get married? 10 years down the road? beats me.
to be honest, i can't see my future. am i suffering from some kinda depression? or perhaps am i thinking too much? i don't know.
Instead of comparing with others, focus on your own studies instead.
Everyone has their own routes to walk on, and since you have choosen yours, then you must walk on to the end.
Quite a number of jobs seem too good to be true on the outside, but once you have taken up the job, you will realise all the down-sides, and at times it is really too good to be true.
For those who sell insurance, their incomes are dependent on buyers, and it could be unstable at times, especially during recessions like now. Your friends must be really exceptional to be making lots of money during this period of time, though I can assure you a lot of other insurance sellers are suffering badly now.
My advice for you is to work hard, get a good honours, and you will find it to be easier to get a good and stable job as compared to others.
Gor for some career counselling
Originally posted by lonestar86:no one point a gun at me to force me. jus that nowadays people are so practical. they expect us (guys) to have at least a degree. if not, they might look down on us. i don't wanna be looked down.
If you are filth rich, no one will look down on you, that is the truth.
Most footballers didn't even complete their basic education, yet they certainly have no lack of fans.
seeing my poly grad friends selling insurance, seems like they are really making it big out there.
Insurance job no stable income.
to be honest, i can't see my future. am i suffering from some kinda depression? or perhaps am i thinking too much? i don't know.
You are thinking too much, which causes depression.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:Instead of comparing with others, focus on your own studies instead.
Everyone has their own routes to walk on, and since you have choosen yours, then you must walk on to the end.
Quite a number of jobs seem too good to be true on the outside, but once you have taken up the job, you will realise all the down-sides, and at times it is really too good to be true.
For those who sell insurance, their incomes are dependent on buyers, and it could be unstable at times, especially during recessions like now. Your friends must be really exceptional to be making lots of money during this period of time, though I can assure you a lot of other insurance sellers are suffering badly now.
My advice for you is to work hard, get a good honours, and you will find it to be easier to get a good and stable job as compared to others.
perhaps u r right. thks for the advice.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:If you are filth rich, no one will look down on you, that is the truth.
Most footballers didn't even complete their basic education, yet they certainly have no lack of fans.
Money is not everything. Your actions and behavior are what makes others form an impression of you. Thats where people will choose whether to respect or look down on you.
Originally posted by dkcx:Money is not everything. Your actions and behavior are what makes others form an impression of you. Thats where people will choose whether to respect or look down on you.
The thing is that, even if you are a horrible person, as long as you are rich and in power, most others will not dare/want to challenge you openly.
Even if such "respect" is pretense, it is unfortunately much better than being unrespected for being a nobody.
Originally posted by Forbiddensinner:The thing is that, even if you are a horrible person, as long as you are rich and in power, most others will not dare/want to challenge you openly.
Even if such "respect" is pretense, it is unfortunately much better than being unrespected for being a nobody.
Respect is earn not given. What for you want 'respect' in front of you when people are insulting and talking bad about you all the time behind you?
Who ever said someone who is not rich cannot earn respect and a horrible person who has money can even earn any respect from his peers?
If people around you chooses to respect only people who have money and suck up to them, disregard those who are less well off then this group of people are not worth spending time with in the first place.
Earning a good degree with honours will help you tremendously, yes.
But in the long run, if you are doing a job which does not satisfy you, you will also get sian!
So it's good to find out about your own interests, strengths & values & go on from there.
There are many people in stable, high paying jobs, but they are merely existing, forcing themselves to go to work daily.
So it's not all hunky dory if you get a 'good' job.
Originally posted by lonestar86:i'm currently studying in local uni. initially i have no interest in studying in uni but this practical society force me to. so i took up bank loans. taking a 4 yrs course, 6K a yr, all in all i've gonna pay 24K++ once i grad, don't forget abt the interests.
seeing my poly grad friends selling insurance, seems like they are really making it big out there. i'm not sure how much they are earning each month, but i believe they are earning big, with all the hardwork they have put in. 1 of them have bought a car, while another is planning to buy 1 soon.
i'm wondering, if one can make it big without a degree, just by selling insurance etc, what's the point of studying so hard for a degree? right now they are earning so much and even have the ability to own cars while on the other hand, i'm in huge debts and once i grad i've gonna work extra hard to pay for my debts, give money to my parents etc. no money no honey, when can i get married? 10 years down the road? beats me.
to be honest, i can't see my future. am i suffering from some kinda depression? or perhaps am i thinking too much? i don't know.
different people have different ability.
and with different ability coem with different pay.
if you are gifted in basktball and you go play soccer.. epic isn'it?
some ppl are just ematn to do office work, some are meant to be high flyers.
In a country like Singapore, it is always good to have degree.
I have already identify your problem.
Your problem is - You compare yourself with others.
You are only looking at your friends bright side. You have not seen the full picture.
Enough said.
Originally posted by lonestar86:i'm currently studying in local uni. initially i have no interest in studying in uni but this practical society force me to. so i took up bank loans. taking a 4 yrs course, 6K a yr, all in all i've gonna pay 24K++ once i grad, don't forget abt the interests.
seeing my poly grad friends selling insurance, seems like they are really making it big out there. i'm not sure how much they are earning each month, but i believe they are earning big, with all the hardwork they have put in. 1 of them have bought a car, while another is planning to buy 1 soon.
i'm wondering, if one can make it big without a degree, just by selling insurance etc, what's the point of studying so hard for a degree? right now they are earning so much and even have the ability to own cars while on the other hand, i'm in huge debts and once i grad i've gonna work extra hard to pay for my debts, give money to my parents etc. no money no honey, when can i get married? 10 years down the road? beats me.
to be honest, i can't see my future. am i suffering from some kinda depression? or perhaps am i thinking too much? i don't know.
Note that it only seems that your friends are making it big. For all you know, they may struggling to meet their sales quotas.
They got car, so what? What if they only got their cars through loans? Which is worse - a loan for your studies, or a loan for their car? At least you can get greater opportunities with your degree. They can only go from point A to point B with their cars.
What if your friends are envying you right now? Have you ever considered that they may see themselves to be in dead-end jobs, and they in turn envy you for having more doors open to you in the future?
The grass is always greener on the other side, man.
Originally posted by Fantagf:In a country like Singapore, it is always good to have degree.
that's exactly the reason y i'm studying for 1 right now.
Originally posted by lonestar86:that's exactly the reason y i'm studying for 1 right now.
Bingo. End of story.
Believe me, a lot of people are in your position as well. I myself had to take $24k worth of loans to pay my way through my four years honours course.
I saw my loans as a motivation to work hard and to do well, because I knew that if I screwed up, I would get a low-grade degree with low job prospects and $24k worth of debts on top of that.
So now, go and work hard. If you think you screwed up your first year, then never mind, just work harder and better in the next three years. The new semester starts next week - go and do your best for it.
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1. What's with all that formatting? Are you copying and pasting?
2. Uhh..... no? Like I said, isn't the grass is always on the greener side? What's the whole friggin' point of comparing if it's gonna make you all sad and depressed? And you end up screwing your studies because of your depression.... so what's the point?
Why don't you just aim to do well in your studies and just work your ass off?
Originally posted by gunner77:I have already identify your problem.
Your problem is - You compare yourself with others.
You are only looking at your friends bright side. You have not seen the full picture.
Enough said.
yes, i'm comparing myself with others. but everyone is doing it right? i mean when we have a choice to make, we compare right? i.e if a girl is looking for bf, she will compare those guys who are trying to win her heart right? of cus she’ll compare the guys based on certain criteria, like education background, looks, wealth etc..
comparison, that's what we always do right?