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The definition of love is different between different personalities and different people. There is no general definition of love (love as a whole) - because every relation is unique to its own preception.Originally posted by Angeline_01:
We can define LOVE...
In the world of where love is concern,
If the feeling of one party is different from the other, this is actually a cruel fact to the other party.
One is still in the world of love, the other which is suffering in extreme pain and agony.
Perhaps everyone of us thinks that love can be determine through degrees of tolerance, kindness and happiness.
However have anyone ever thought that whether the other party would want this love from you?
Definitely, you can't stop one from liking or loving you. If one is willing to do so without wanting any repay back, that's his rights.
In other way you can't control one person not to love you nor show concern about you....
Very often in breakups, many excuses comes from reason when liking one initially.
In a real situation, one party will want a reason for it. Until the moment excuses is given, one would respond:
"Just for this reason, you wanted a breakup after so many years?
We have been together for so long, how do you expect me to give up so easily?"
Theortically, can love be one sided? giving out without taking it back?
Eventually, when two are in love, is it beacuse they are used to each other? or because they just couldn't let it go? or maybe they are really in love with each other?
Take this: The one who is being left behind might not be the one that is suffering; thus the one who wanted a break up might not be heartless.
We can't forced one to stay nor to leave in a love relationship.
Enjoy the day !!
Ok, here comes to theory part. (/me heard someone complaining 'Oh no! He is nagging again...)
Every relationship has a lifeline and it is divided into four stages. Honeymoon period, blissful period, stagnant ceasing period, Declining/Deteriorating phrase. Every relationship often starts from a Honeymoon period and will continue to grow.
Honeymoon stage - the partners will be lost very deep in the world of their own and enjoying the fruit of their love. Constant phone call, sms, etc is common, telling each other how much they meant to them, etc. Often last anywhere between first day of relation to a few months.
Blissful stage - this is when the relationship is still growing, however, it isn't like Honeymoon period where you see each other everyday or similiar. Both of you are generally contented with one another and love does exist. Certain characteristic traits inflict conflicts in the relation, however, you both still love each other and in the process of learning from one another.
Stagnant Stage - This is when a critical hit is scored onto the relation and render it stagnant. This relationship temporary cannot grow because of existing problem. Both parties have to come together to work things out and try to get out of this stage - if not there is a high risk of breaking off or setting it into a decline stage. Both parties often lost that kind of wanting to see each other, avoidance or probably looking else where for potential partners.
Decline Stage - This often happens when a relation have gone for a long period of time and subconscious lost that kind of chemistry. When a relation break and patch - it often sinks into this stage faster than you can yell 'What the hell?'. Relationship will deteriorate either subconsciously or conscious. Very often, when a relation enters into this stage - its very difficult for it to jump back onto other stage. Taken for granted and becoming a routine relation? Or you simply have no more feelings for the other party?
These four stage doesn't always have to follow in order. Some people could jump straight into Stagnant stage before leaping into honeymoon (Signal problems exist the minute they started being together).
So if you are asking what is true love? If you look according to the lifeline above - it is probably a relationship that *never* enters into a decline stage and is often into the blissful phrase. Yes, at times it may drop into the Stagnant period, but with proper communication and couple effort in solving and working things out - it will leap back to blissful stage is no time.
Cheers (Above theory courtesy from Yunhaier's Book - CloUdiSm) -
Originally posted by Yunhaier:
Bravo....... Yunhaier...
The definition of love is different between different personalities and different people. There is no general definition of love (love as a whole) - because every relation is unique to its own preception.
Ok, here comes to theory part. (/me heard someone complaining 'Oh no! He is nagging again...)
Every relationship has a lifeline and it is divided into four stages. Honeymoon period, blissful period, stagnant ceasing period, Declining/Deteriorating phrase. Every relationship starts from a Honeymoon period and will continue to grow.
[b]Honeymoon stage - the partners will be lost very deep in the world of their own and enjoying the fruit of their love. Constant phone call, sms, etc is common, telling each other how much they meant to them, etc. Often last anyway between first day of relation to a few months.
Blissful stage - this is when the relationship is still growing, however, it isn't like Honeymoon period where you see each other everyday or similiar. Both of you are generally contented with one another and love does exist. Certain characteristic traits inflict conflicts in the relation, however, you both still love each other and in the process of learning from one another.
Stagnant Stage - This is when a critical hit is scored onto the relation and render it stagnant. This relationship temporary cannot grow because of existing problem. Both parties have to come together to work things out and try to get out of this stage - if not there is a high risk of breaking off or setting it into a decline stage. Both parties often lost that kind of wanting to see each other, avoidance or probably looking else where for potential partners.
Decline Stage - This often happens when a relation have gone for a long period of time and subconscious lost that kind of chemistry. When a relation break and patch - it often sinks into this stage faster than you can yell 'What the hell?'. Relationship will deteriorate either subconsciously or conscious. Very often, when a relation enters into th is stage - its very difficult for it to jump back onto other stage. Taken for granted and becoming a routine relation? Or you simply have no more feelings for the other party?
These four stage doesn't always have to follow in order. Some people could jump straight into Stagnant stage before leaping into honeymoon (Signal problems exist the minute they started being together).
So if you are asking what is true love? If you look according to the lifeline above - it is probably a relationship that *never* enters into a decline stage and is often into the blissful phrase. Yes, at times it may drop into the Stagnant period, but with proper communication and couple effort in solving and working things out - it will leap back to blissful stage is no time.
Cheers (Above theory courtesy from Yunhaier's Book - CloUdiSm)
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Ermm are all these recorded in ur book of cloud? -
Kinda ofOriginally posted by Angeline_01:Bravo....... Yunhaier...
Ermm are all these recorded in ur book of cloud? -
Ok... I think there is something wrong with the edit function.
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Originally posted by Yunhaier:
A MasterPiece titled Another Concise Theory Of Love(Title of Book subject to changes) from Book - Cloudism, pg 134XXXX.....still counting done by Master Yun dated on 06 March 2003 · 05:39 PM.
The definition of love is different between different personalities and different people. There is no general definition of love (love as a whole) - because every relation is unique to its own preception.
Ok, here comes to theory part. (/me heard someone complaining 'Oh no! He is nagging again...)
Every relationship has a lifeline and it is divided into four stages. Honeymoon period, blissful period, stagnant ceasing period, Declining/Deteriorating phrase. Every relationship often starts from a Honeymoon period and will continue to grow.
[b]Honeymoon stage - the partners will be lost very deep in the world of their own and enjoying the fruit of their love. Constant phone call, sms, etc is common, telling each other how much they meant to them, etc. Often last anywhere between first day of relation to a few months.
Blissful stage - this is when the relationship is still growing, however, it isn't like Honeymoon period where you see each other everyday or similiar. Both of you are generally contented with one another and love does exist. Certain characteristic traits inflict conflicts in the relation, however, you both still love each other and in the process of learning from one another.
Stagnant Stage - This is when a critical hit is scored onto the relation and render it stagnant. This relationship temporary cannot grow because of existing problem. Both parties have to come together to work things out and try to get out of this stage - if not there is a high risk of breaking off or setting it into a decline stage. Both parties often lost that kind of wanting to see each other, avoidance or probably looking else where for potential partners.
Decline Stage - This often happens when a relation have gone for a long period of time and subconscious lost that kind of chemistry. When a relation break and patch - it often sinks into this stage faster than you can yell 'What the hell?'. Relationship will deteriorate either subconsciously or conscious. Very often, when a relation enters into this stage - its very difficult for it to jump back onto other stage. Taken for granted and becoming a routine relation? Or you simply have no more feelings for the other party?
These four stage doesn't always have to follow in order. Some people could jump straight into Stagnant stage before leaping into honeymoon (Signal problems exist the minute they started being together).
So if you are asking what is true love? If you look according to the lifeline above - it is probably a relationship that *never* enters into a decline stage and is often into the blissful phrase. Yes, at times it may drop into the Stagnant period, but with proper communication and couple effort in solving and working things out - it will leap back to blissful stage is no time.
Cheers (Above theory courtesy from Yunhaier's Book - CloUdiSm)
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Originally posted by M©+square:
You are so kute Mr Mcsquare
A MasterPiece titled [b]Another Concise Theory Of Love(Title of Book subject to changes) from Book - Cloudism, pg 134XXXX.....still counting done by Master Yun dated on 06 March 2003 · 05:39 PM. [/b] -
Frankly Yun....i would not attempt to discuss about this topic.
Cos personally i would think Love is a vast subject.
And if putting this term into a fraction of discussion...it would just mean that we are lowering this word to our human understandings.
I don't know...i guess i'm just talking nonsense.
I'll just stop here and look at Mom Teresa's theory(if any) Of Love. -
Oh yeah....Originally posted by Yunhaier:You are so kute Mr Mcsquare -
/me pang kang liaozzzz.........bye guys.
Bye Yun.
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For some unseen reason, I understand your meaning.Originally posted by M©+square:Frankly Yun....i would not attempt to discuss about this topic.
Cos personally i would think Love is a vast subject.
And if putting this term into a fraction of discussion...it would just mean that we are lowering this word to our human understandings.
I don't know...i guess i'm just talking nonsense.
I'll just stop here and look at Mom Teresa's theory(if any) Of Love. Its a good preception too really... actually I didn't wanted to post, but well, I did. -
You're veli kute too.Originally posted by Yunhaier:For some unseen reason, I understand your meaning. Its a good preception too really... actually I didn't wanted to post, but well, I did.
chaozzz!!!
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Well, what you've just said makes complete sense to me...?Originally posted by M©+square:Frankly Yun....i would not attempt to discuss about this topic.
Cos personally i would think Love is a vast subject.
And if putting this term into a fraction of discussion...it would just mean that we are lowering this word to our human understandings.
I don't know...i guess i'm just talking nonsense.
I'll just stop here and look at Mom Teresa's theory(if any) Of Love. 
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i think it's more because guys like them have charisma, they mix around alot and know how to get on the good side of people. whereas "good guys", not to say that they aren't sociable, just that they socialise in.... "less interesting" areas.Originally posted by Angeline_01:Perhpas this can refer to nan ren bu huai nu ren bu ai?
(guys aren't bad girl don't like)?
how do you define a good guy and a beng?
how do you define the qualities a ger would look for in a guy?
it's human nature to give the "correct" answers when asked questions like this, they'll think that's what they want, but inherently, human nature prevails and they've already gone in too deep before they even realised it. -
For your informations - most of the people that falls under the category of huai ren nan doesn't belong to 'bengs'.Originally posted by nismoS132:i think it's more because guys like them have charisma, they mix around alot and know how to get on the good side of people. whereas "good guys", not to say that they aren't sociable, just that they socialise in.... "less interesting" areas.
how do you define a good guy and a beng?
how do you define the qualities a ger would look for in a guy?
it's human nature to give the "correct" answers when asked questions like this, they'll think that's what they want, but inherently, human nature prevails and they've already gone in too deep before they even realised it. -
Yesh I agree...Originally posted by Yunhaier:For your informations - most of the people that falls under the category of huai ren nan doesn't belong to 'bengs'.
It may not be a beng
I met my ex who is quite a "guai" guy but I ended up been hurt with extreme heart broke.
I try everything I could in order to make him in the end, I found him betraying me 2 timer. When I troubled or upset, he even scolded me and make me cry instead of consoling me......
When go clubbing with him, i tolerate the moments when he dance with other girls, and when they were gone, he will come back hugging me etc. I forgive him times and times all over again.. but he just take me for granted... -
Classic example of a non-beng huai nan renOriginally posted by Angeline_01:Yesh I agree...
It may not be a beng
I met my ex who is quite a "guai" guy but I ended up been hurt with extreme heart broke.
I try everything I could in order to make him in the end, I found him betraying me 2 timer. When I troubled or upset, he even scolded me and make me cry instead of consoling me......
When go clubbing with him, i tolerate the moments when he dance with other girls, and when they were gone, he will come back hugging me etc. I forgive him times and times all over again.. but he just take me for granted...
Angeline... you are so silly. If I was God and had supernatural power, I would fry his ass with a bolt of lightning. Remember - you can always find someone else better - the question is that this choice *lies* within you.
Cheers -
]Originally posted by Yunhaier:Classic example of a non-beng huai nan ren
Angeline... you are so silly. If I was God and had supernatural power, I would fry his ass with a bolt of lightning. Remember - you can always find someone else better - the question is that this choice *lies* within you.
Cheers
Yap later on I can't tolerate anymore when I actually heard him sleeping in the girl's house and even french kisses in front of my friends. So i just broke off.. It took me a very long time to get over it. Until today, even I'm with my present bf (engaging soon) I will dream about nightmares and how he got me into the worst period of my life.
I'm glad that my bf is very supportive to help me get over this. -
Ironically as it may seem, If that was the incident that happened to me - I would move on with my life *much faster* than having to go through the ordeal of a break up because I have finally realise the partner I am going with is such a B|tch (for your case - a jerk).Originally posted by Angeline_01:]
Yap later on I can't tolerate anymore when I actually heard him sleeping in the girl's house and even french kisses in front of my friends. So i just broke off.. It took me a very long time to get over it. Until today, even I'm with my present bf (engaging soon) I will dream about nightmares and how he got me into the worst period of my life.
I'm glad that my bf is very supportive to help me get over this.
Engaging soon? That's nice to know about. Its really a good thing that your bf help you to go through the crisis - like an angel sent to assist you isn't it?
Cheers -
So late?!?!?!? hahaha......i pang kang liaoz.Originally posted by Yunhaier:Ironically as it may seem, If that was the incident that happened to me - I would move on with my life *much faster* than having to go through the ordeal of a break up because I have finally realise the partner I am going with is such a B|tch (for your case - a jerk).
Engaging soon? That's nice to know about. Its really a good thing that your bf help you to go through the crisis - like an angel sent to assist you isn't it?
Cheers
Chao! -
when a relations is in declining stage.. is there really no helo or solutions to it??
nothing can be done.. and at least slowly back to stagnant stage then back to blissful stage... -
WELL DEFINED - really are words from a MASTER man - must SALUTE !!!Originally posted by Master -_-:Infatuation is instant desire - one set of glands calling to another.
Love is friendship that has caught fire. It takes root and grows, one day at a time.
Infatuation is marked by a feeling of insecurity. You are excited and eager, but not genuinely happy. There are nagging doubts, unanswered questions, little bits and pieces about your beloved that you would just as soon not examine too closely. It might spoil the dream.
Love is the quiet understanding and mature acceptance of imperfection. It is real. It gives you strength and grows beyond you - to bolster your beloved. You are warmed by their presence, even when they are away. Miles do not separate you. You have so many wonderful little films in your head that you keep replaying. But near or far, you know they are yours, and you can wait.
Infatuation says, "We must get married right away. I can't risk losing them."
Love says, "Be patient. Don't panic. Plan your future with confidence."
Infatuation has an element of sexual excitement. Whenever you are together, you hope it will end in intimacy.
Love is not based on sex. It is the maturation of friendship, which makes sex so much sweeter. You must be friends before you can be lovers.
Infatuation lacks confidence. When they're away, you wonder if they're cheating. Sometimes, you check.
Love means trust. You are calm, secure and unthreatened. They feel your trust, and it makes them even more trustworthy.
Infatuation might lead you to do things you will regret, but love never steers you in the wrong direction.
Love is an upper. It makes you feel whole. It completes the circle. It fills the empty space in your heart. Love is elevating. It lifts you up. It makes you look up. It makes you think up. It makes you a better person than you were before. If you have love in your life, it can make up for a great many things you don't have. If there is no love in your life, whatever else there is has a lot less meaning.
The secret of our being is not only to live but to have something to live for.
Thats my definition of love 
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My definition of loving someone is asking nothing in return. Naive perhaps but if you love someone and you see that someone doing something she enjoys what could be more happy than that? When you are truly in love with someone, nothing more than seeing her laugh and smile would satisfy you more.
I'd probably ask nothing more than being a listening ear in times of need. If she chose to return that love of course i'd be happy but if she feels she can be more happy with someone else i'd understand as well.
Loving a person does not mean that person must walk with you on the pathways of life. Loving a person means you can continue walking with the memories as motivation to live fruitfully. Love is only bitter when you chose to want to possess the person as well. -
Originally posted by Stevenson101:My definition of loving someone is asking nothing in return. Naive perhaps but if you love someone and you see that someone doing something she enjoys what could be more happy than that? When you are truly in love with someone, nothing more than seeing her laugh and smile would satisfy you more.
I'd probably ask nothing more than being a listening ear in times of need. If she chose to return that love of course i'd be happy but if she feels she can be more happy with someone else i'd understand as well.
Loving a person does not mean that person must walk with you on the pathways of life. Loving a person means you can continue walking with the memories as motivation to live fruitfully. Love is only bitter when you chose to want to possess the person as well.