Don't bother to investigate further since he has told you the reason for the items present. Give him the benefit of the doubt like jeremy has mention, and until you caught him red-handed, just trust him (relation is based on trust isn't it?)Originally posted by reallieRAW:Opps....i dun wish to elaborate much on my story but I'll let you know abt my discovery that led to my suspicion
During the wkends, I went to his place. It was his invitation so perhaps bcoz of this, it was possible that he wasnt on his guard & led me to the discovery of a library book abt horror stuffs (that is not him, he doesnt go library, not to mention borrow a book there & reads. All he knows is his Xbox), a small bolster pink in colour, with an Olive-Popeye's GF (he doesnt like girlie stuffs, not to mention in shocking pink), some cartoon VCDs (i never know that he enjoys cartoons & bother to spend $$$ on them besides his games) & pouch packed with woman's stuffs.
For the above items, he told me that he borrowed the book from library & he reads horror books. Unbelievable. HE bought the bolster coz it looked cute. Cute? Ridiculous! Somemore in pink! i left out to ask him abt VCDs. Then the pouch belonged to his ex-gf. She din ask him for it, so he din bother to rtn either. I din believe him coz he hasnt been contacting them. His last gf was ard 10mths back! The rest? Few yrs back also. Suspicious I was but calm (I'm not tt kind of GF who screams & shouts. I like to talk, discuss & solve problems), so I told him to give me the pouch which contained 2 sanitary pads, shampoo/conditioner, disposable panties, White Musk spray fr Body Shop but he said better not, he'll ask if she still wanted them. Fishy.
How abt it? Am I too suspicious? I hope I am coz I've yet to hear from him abt what he'll have to say abt my suspicion
Hi reallieRAW,Originally posted by reallieRAW:Opps....i dun wish to elaborate much on my story but I'll let you know abt my discovery that led to my suspicion
During the wkends, I went to his place. It was his invitation so perhaps bcoz of this, it was possible that he wasnt on his guard & led me to the discovery of a library book abt horror stuffs (that is not him, he doesnt go library, not to mention borrow a book there & reads. All he knows is his Xbox), a small bolster pink in colour, with an Olive-Popeye's GF (he doesnt like girlie stuffs, not to mention in shocking pink), some cartoon VCDs (i never know that he enjoys cartoons & bother to spend $$$ on them besides his games) & pouch packed with woman's stuffs.
For the above items, he told me that he borrowed the book from library & he reads horror books. Unbelievable. HE bought the bolster coz it looked cute. Cute? Ridiculous! Somemore in pink! i left out to ask him abt VCDs. Then the pouch belonged to his ex-gf. She din ask him for it, so he din bother to rtn either. I din believe him coz he hasnt been contacting them. His last gf was ard 10mths back! The rest? Few yrs back also. Suspicious I was but calm (I'm not tt kind of GF who screams & shouts. I like to talk, discuss & solve problems), so I told him to give me the pouch which contained 2 sanitary pads, shampoo/conditioner, disposable panties, White Musk spray fr Body Shop but he said better not, he'll ask if she still wanted them. Fishy.
How abt it? Am I too suspicious? I hope I am coz I've yet to hear from him abt what he'll have to say abt my suspicion
Care to evaluate a little on the 'problems of the past'?Originally posted by reallieRAW:We have some problems of our own already, they were recently solved at his place but a new problem like this pop up again![]()
Very RATIONAL....Originally posted by reallieRAW:By writing them down, it only appears more "real" to me, n I dun wish that to happen. I dun wish that I'd be pyscho by these things & actually believing that they cld be the TRUTHS.
Not to worry in this case.... Raw's a VERY RATIONAL lady....Originally posted by dark_slayer79:dangerous too............
Originally posted by john hunter:
Everything in this world is ever-changing and never stays the same.
If we adopt this proper attitude to observe all worldly changes,
then these changes will no longer be able to affect our mind.Buddha
Thks...this is my belief too.The only thing in the world that does not change is CHANGE itself.
No varnish can hide the grain of the wood.
The more varnish you put on, the more the grain will express itself.Charles Dickens
Yah....this is true. We cant really hide the truth nor the fact. Time will tell but I like to use my heart to hear the hearts of others'...then again...the hearts of man have long been polluted that I cant seem to trust anymore nor hear the truths
Thks jOhOOriginally posted by jOhO:hey RAW.
sine u asked for experiences, u got it.
when i am attached i don't get suspicious easily. as u know, i got done by unfaithfulness. i guess my trusting nature might have been my downfall, since i chose to overlook many of the clues that might have been there. it's not that i saw them and ignored them, it's that i probably convinced myself sub-consciously that it was nothing.
of course until one fine day when something happened and it was just to damn obvious. that's when hell broke lose, and well she and i survived to tell another story today.
the point here is a LINE. where do u draw the line that the signs and clues speak with a substantive voice? u can choose to ignore them if it doesn't cross the line, or voice it out (i yelled till sore throat btw! ahahha) if the line is crossed.
hope that helps~ sorry to hear that this uncertainty is happening.
another point, sometimes in a reln it's not wat one KNOWS... it's wat one BELIEVES.
i BELIEVED that she was true to me all the way, until of course the water broke, and then i BELIEVED that she was screwing him behind my back (even tho she claimed she wasn't).
who cares wat the truth is? it's wat the victim believes. so i will always remember, never to do anything that leads the other party to believe otherwise.
a very obvious example, you're attached and u go stay at a "korkor's" place. even tho u didn't do anything with him since he's ur "korkor" but what for raise ur bf's suspicions? hope u get wat i mean.
take care RAWie~~!!!![]()
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Originally posted by Devil1976:Pls dun use '?'...yes we r frenz & your help has been deeply appreciated
Hi Rawie, real GLAD that you're still STRONG and surviving....
Whatever you've mentioned is NOT enough to CONCLUDE that your bf is CHEATING on you... HOWEVER, it does bring to quite a level of SUSPICION... I can see that we have quite some differing opinions from the people in here, I'm gonna give you some INSIGHTS which I hope would really help you... PERSONAL FAVOR... As a friend..?
1st of all, we talk about YOUR SUSPICIONS... Not GROUNDLESS, not enough to CLOSE the CASE... But the FACT that it's enough for you to POST it this here shows something... It should REALLY QUITE BOTHER you...? 2 possibilities..? He's GUILTY, he's NOT.... As Joho had mentioned, it's quite UNLIKELY that you're gonna PRETEND that NOTHING ever happened at all.... Guilty or not, these QUESTION MARKs would no doubt [b]cause a CRACK in your relationship... Short-term or otherwise....
2nd thing... You BINGO on something... From the 'LIMITED information' I know of you and your bf...He's a LOUSY LIAR... And yes, it's quite likely that he's a FLIRT (pls that is not enough to condemn him... It just rise the chances A LITTLE...).... BASED on this FACT, further questioning him (meaningful ones please...) is very likely to lead to FURTHER 'discoveries' IF he CHEATS on you....
BONUSES... When ya questioned about the stuffs ya found in his room, did you CONSOLIDATE the 'evidences' and asked him OR did you asked him about the things SEPARATELY...? How did he responded to you...? (in particular his expression...?) Did he mentioned anything ADDITIONAL about the items..? In particular the HORROR STORY book(s?) and cartoon VCDs....
This is ADDITIONAL... I normally won't really recommend this UNLESS things get WAY OUT OF HANDS... And in your CASE, it's somehow an 'OPEN ASSESSMENT'... <- Cos you've already asked him about the things and send him an 'ON GUARD' signal.... This is what I'll recommend.... REMEMBER the title(s) of the horror books and the VCDs.... The cartoon VCDs... Are they DIFFERENT cartoon characters or a SERIAL about a particular CARTOON CHACRACTER... IF it's about a PARTICULAR cartoon character, that character MIGHT be your 'saviour' and probably chances are his IDOL.... Was those RENTAL VCDs or BOUGHT...? Read through the story books and contents of the VCD... Then it's QUIZ for him AFTER he returned the library books... But BEFORE that, REMEMBER to ask him HOW he liked the VCDs and books... Just to ensure that he've finished the items and it's a FAIR TEST....?
Some questions of INTEREST for me...? If you would be so kind to entertain me...?What's his job nature...? He surfs the internet..? ICQ? IRC...? Oh yeah... By the way, NEXT TIME ya found a pounch like the one you've mentioned.... Leave your OWN BRAND of sanitary pad behind as a SOUVENIOR...?
~Good luck babe, anything just MSG me...?[/b]
Originally posted by De|usi0n:Thks if u've tried to console me
/me clap clap ****
haiya, y bother if he cheats on you....he is not your 1st, and wont be ur last....cheers
[b]
love is not forever
and u know its true
but while its still here
i'll say 'i love u'
this is the preception i hold on to my lovelife.[/b]
Erm...I did ask him before but he denied.Originally posted by X-men:Just to share a bit on cheating on your partners.
NOT ME... I won't do that cos I sucks at lying. I'm a open book where happy, sad, guilty everything is written clearly.
I got a camp mate who cheats a lot. What he did was he had 2 hp no. one is the know one, the other is what he call 'cheong' no so his flirts will get this no only while his gf gets the 'actual' one. He diverts one of the no to the other so both no will seem 'live'.
As he is in camp that requires shift work... he makes use of this chance to cheat. Whenever the workend early, he will not mention and go out for a flirt. If kanna question when no ask his gf calls... "busy with work... meeting..." are the common excueses.
Remember once, he suppose to be going overseas for a couple of days but the trip was cancelled. Did not mention to gf, instead went to stay with another campmate and every night was party night. Hp was off, reason given: No network.
Trust is the most important element in a relationship, if trust is not there.... no way this relationship is going to last. It work both ways. If your partner feels that you are not trusting him/her, the relationship will have cracks too.
My personal advise is to observse your bf a while more (his age is close to mine) maybe he is having mid life changes
if he's behaviour is getting 'funnier' then it will be good if you can indirectly ask him if he found someone new.
Yup... I can understand that you're a woman of CLASS....Originally posted by reallieRAW:Pls dun use '?'...yes we r frenz & your help has been deeply appreciated
Well...I dun wish to go on investigating this matter anymore. It's not gonna help me I know, it's juz making me behaving more like some crazy woman. Very low-class leh...keke& demoralizing
7 dampening my mood
To satisfy your curiosity fren, he works in govt sector-Health Promotion Board (check the the website for more info if you want). He's not really a cyber guy, mainly spending his time on game. Besides working, sleeping & gaming...the else.....I dun check on his whereabouts (gave him too much freedom?).
There's perfectly nothing wrong with that, at least for me & youOriginally posted by boy in blues:what's wrong with just telling him what's on your mind? isn't it all about effective heart-to-heart communication? listen to his side of the story with an attitude of trust. maybe he will appreciate you for sharing your concerns with him and not just keeping everything to yourself? Cheers.![]()
Hahahaha..yah...I'm not intending to investigate anymoreOriginally posted by Yunhaier:Don't bother to investigate further since he has told you the reason for the items present. Give him the benefit of the doubt like jeremy has mention, and until you caught him red-handed, just trust him (relation is based on trust isn't it?)
One thing I would like to point out: you mentioned that it was his invitation from him to you to his house. If he was something real fishy, you think he wouldn't be intelligent enough to know that such items should be kept somewhere real secret?
See that's why the possibility is almost unlimited - forget about investigating further like a detective on crime - it will only hurt the relation and brew discord. But always keep a cautious eye around - that's for sure.
P.S: I am sure if this was something real fishy - anytime within next 3 months, you should be able to see the picture clearer.
Cheers
Thks....appreciate your replyOriginally posted by CuTiE~~:hi realliRaw..
i will not specifically pin-point on any events to comment since evidences seen are not that clear-cut...
what i can say is that, 4 mths is a time too short to understand a person well...
even though you claimed to know ur bf well, but at times, u may miss out on details?
give urself time to understand ur bf better, as well as, a time to know urself better, on what kind of lines to draw outta this relationship (which joho has mentioned..)
i can truely understand what you are undergoing...know at times, u are even at the verge of bursting out...
perhaps,you could try to abolish such suspicious tots abt ur bf & try to give urself more time to understand him better... (=start afresh?)
give him trust & see how things go..sometimes, impatience will lead you to nowhere....if you still feel uncomfortable abt all these stuff, i would suggest you to seat down & have a nice talk with him...let him know how you feel & look into his eyes...if there is nothing to hide, he will not feel at ease...
otherwise, any evil intentions could be easily detected...
juz a tot for the day............was walking behind a gal yesterday when i saw this msg on the back of her tees.....
"worry is a misuse of imagination..." which i feel most of the time it is quite true.........
hope it makes you feel better.........
Thks man.......your points have been helpful but you seem to have missed out my replies earlier on which I explained some of your qns & I'm too lazy to repeat leh...refer back ok?Originally posted by SunRisE:Hi reallieRAW,
What are you suspicious about?? All those you mention was past.. You are in a r/s for only 4 months.. how well can you understand him?? SOme people can have their r/s for years.. and yet they jus can't understand each other well.. I dun see what's wrong in here...
He inivite you to his house.. and of cos.. if he meant to hide all this to arouse your suspicious.. Firstly he wont even ask you to go over to his place.. Secondly... if he knows you are coming over.. he should have kept all those in a secret compartment and lock it...
You say he wasn't on his guard.. I think probably.. he jus dun bother abt the things he had... He had the library book with him and how long was it?? Recently or sometime ago?? Its not surprised for him to go to a library and borrow books.. Maybe at that time he was so curious about "horror stuffs". All these might happen before he knows you..
Bolster and VCDs might be last time his ex-gf bought to his house.. left it there and never take it back. jus like the Pouch! Or it maybe his younger siblings bother him to buy those stuffs?? This i'm not sure.. Cos dunno he's only child or he's the youngest...
As for the pouch.. whatever that contains inside doesn't matter.. Already said that it belongs to her ex-gf.. Definitely.. those stuffs inside are meant for lady's use!!
Fishy?? YOu afraid of what?? Afraid that he might turn to be a Gay? OR a Bi? If you are scared.. ask him to call her about the pouch she left..
Don't be too sensitive over things.. Some things are not meant to be from what you sees... You say you ain't those girls who would scream, shout or pick-up a fight out of the blue.. But however.. you seems to have no confidence in yourself.. and think too much of such unnecessary things! Build up your confidence level.. Have faith and trust in him! Have a good talk with him.. Tell him about your sensitivity.. Honesty is what you wan!
Cheers!!![]()