weight gainer
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i'm desperately in need of putting on weight. i heard abt the weight gainers. has anyone out there tried consuming this stuff??
if yes, can share exp?? and for one big tube sold in gnc, how long does it take to finish? coz it's rather costly. -
before these things, consult a doc...
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y gain weight? natural better... no matter whether u r fat or skinny... wat's important is ur personality...
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U mean those from GNC right, my male frens took those & work out in order to maintain firm muscles & to be big in size.. but hey trust me there are side effects to such things.. Not worth to try.. Try seing a doc, they will prescrible u medicine tt will increase ur intake, in a healthy way.Originally posted by sherlockian21:i'm desperately in need of putting on weight. i heard abt the weight gainers. has anyone out there tried consuming this stuff??
if yes, can share exp?? and for one big tube sold in gnc, how long does it take to finish? coz it's rather costly.
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Originally posted by the Bear:before these things, consult a doc...
seriously!!
agree..Originally posted by weidev:y gain weight? natural better... no matter whether u r fat or skinny... wat's important is ur personality...
some people aint suitable to consume weight gainers, plus the possible side effects. -
I beg to differ. If weight gainers have any serious side effects, they wouldnt be so available to the general public. I do not think u need to consult a doctor first unless its like a chronic illness or something...save ur money and ask the guy in the shop - but dont believe everything he says. But if ur so worried about the possible side effects that might come along, just take in more calories than u burn each day. Calories in>Calories out = weight gain.
And in my opinion, the part of 'whats impt is personality' is quite crap. Its not just about looks or whatever, its about health and a better lifestyle. Either way, it would always be better to have a gd personality and a healthy weight than being a skinny or fatar$e guy and having a gd personality. -
And...weight gainers comes hand in hand with working out at the gym. If ur still growing, u wouldnt want to really lift too much...stunts ur growth.
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i remember before slim 10 was taken to court... everybody thought the same way as you too... "it's juz one of the many sliming pills..." "nothing will go wrong cos singapore allows this to be sold here" "try this... chen liping endorses this"Originally posted by .'.:I beg to differ. If weight gainers have any serious side effects, they wouldnt be so available to the general public. I do not think u need to consult a doctor first unless its like a chronic illness or something...save ur money and ask the guy in the shop - but dont believe everything he says. But if ur so worried about the possible side effects that might come along, just take in more calories than u burn each day. Calories in>Calories out = weight gain.
And in my opinion, the part of 'whats impt is personality' is quite crap. Its not just about looks or whatever, its about health and a better lifestyle. Either way, it would always be better to have a gd personality and a healthy weight than being a skinny or fatar$e guy and having a gd personality.
then in the end... somebody's liver broke down and slim 10 was taken to court... someone died... and all this cos nobody bothers to check out the doc and ask if he/she is allergic to any of the drugs in the pills... the doc maybe will even recommend u to some other drugs which is even cheaper and better...
Yes... it is gd to have a bf/gf who have a gd perrsonality as well as a healthy weight... but i rather have a natural body weight as well as a good personality... rather then a person who takes pills constantly to maintain a certain weight and have a good personality too...
wanna gain weight the right way? look for a nutrition expert... check your diet... is there any wrong with it? rather then go eat pills... -
Well, its not true weight gainers or other form of weight management products will not have side effects, to be allowed to be sold in SG. There are few side effects though, although they are usually not serious. Moodiness, headache, lethargy can be some of the symptoms. Loss of energy can exist too.Originally posted by .'.:I beg to differ. If weight gainers have any serious side effects, they wouldnt be so available to the general public. I do not think u need to consult a doctor first unless its like a chronic illness or something...save ur money and ask the guy in the shop - but dont believe everything he says. But if ur so worried about the possible side effects that might come along, just take in more calories than u burn each day. Calories in>Calories out = weight gain.
And in my opinion, the part of 'whats impt is personality' is quite crap. Its not just about looks or whatever, its about health and a better lifestyle. Either way, it would always be better to have a gd personality and a healthy weight than being a skinny or fatar$e guy and having a gd personality.
a) Drug theraphy
Nowadays, people knew the addictiveness and serious side effects of drugs. even with safer ones, drugs do not teach one to break bad eating habits or only temporarily stop the syndrome.
Stimulants like dexedrine and adderall is now discouraged because of addictiveness. It is the oldest form of diet pills.
Fenfluramine is similar to stimulants, but has less dependency probs. It suppress appetite.
Phentermine is similar also to stimulants, but has less risks too
Fluxetine or commonly called Prozac is the latest. It curb appetitie and elevate mood.
Phenylpropanolamine is also like amphetamines or stimulants.
The above mentioned drugs mostly increase serotonin in brain, curb appetite and elevate mood. However, they have various level of side effects and dependcy problems.
I heard the latest one is called Xenical, yet I discourage its use. It seems this drug is for seriously obese people. All of these drugs must be taken under supervision.
b) Exercise
Good idea, even for skinny people. Buld your body mass and muscle. For people intending to go on exercise regime, please consult a PT trainer. Exercise doesnt mean just warm up and run off. You might do it wrongly, and overexert your body. For light exercise, especially old people and pregnant women, Walk 2 click burns roughly 100 calories. Start with one click in one day, lasting 15 minutes, then build up the pace and increase the distance. Walking before meal can helps curb appetite.
c)Nutrition theraphy and diet.
Goes along with exercise. Now beside properly planned diet which I would not explain here, (cos it damn leceh)
, nutrition theraphy is the mainstay of all weight management programmes. Why weight management, and not weight loss? Underweight people need to build up body mass and muscle too. So weight management balance the body weight and mass ,as well as maintaining it.
On the market, there are emergence of many weight management products. These type of products are recommended because of the following reasons.
Does not contain drugs. Usually those that pass through HSA are certified drug free.
Natural ingredients. Also, because these contain calories and other nutrients, they replaces meals. Like for example, taking maybe one packet of these products mixed with drinks act as a meal, as well as appetite curber (so that you wont go munching on snacks). Plus they give you calories, and therefore energy to enable you to carry on your daily programme. At the same time these products burn fats, but you still must eat at least one balanced meal a day
Safe effective. Some are used by hospitals.
They are weight management, not weight loss products, therefore, ideal for people of all weight and body fats, even for people who wish to maintain weight. These products complement your meals and body metabolism, unlike drugs which produce drastic change in your body.
HOWEVER, many people look for the wrong ones. You must dicern between Very Low Calorie Diet VLCD and Medium Low Calorie Diet
VLCDs in the market has one con point, which is that they induce calorie intake of between 500 - 800 calories. This is below normal body requirement, and people develop rapid weight loss. The body will then experience a shock. There are high risks of epilepsy and fatigue. This can be experienced after long term usage.
The following are the side effects too. Lowering of metabolic rate as body system kicks in to reduce calorie burning rate. Yo yo phenomenon as VLCDs do not change bad eating habits. loss of lean muscle due to body using muscle protein as energy. This results in fatigue.
What bad eating habits can VLCDs induce?. Full liquid diet. Coz the products are liquid diet by itself, going totally without eating at least a balanced meal can cost people unable to regain habit of eating. Very dangerous.
MLCDs provide more than 1000 calories a day, long term effectiveness, gradual weight loss or gain, no side effects, no medical supervision and taken with normal meals
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Rather you guys try out weight management products, than weight loss or weight gainers. Seen some of them used by my friends, scary in terms of side effects and contents.
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Weight gainers are NOT pills. They are just proteins(whey blah blah) and carbs(maltodetrine blah blah). And i did not say they have no side effects, I said no serious side effects thats gonna put in a wheelchair or burst ur arteries or something. And for the slim 10 thingy, it wasnt a case of allergy, it was a case of the pill containing banned substances, I dont think u can get allergic to proteins and carbs anyway. But if u really think manufactured weight gainers are gonna land u in a situation where u have to take medication for life becauze the protein and carbs attacked your immune system, u can make your own weight gainers consisting of whey..oatmeal blah blah and mixing them with water..get other high in protein food and ur own ur way to gaining weight.
Yes, i do agree with u that looking for a nutrition expert is the best way to go but it doeznt fit him cauze he's worried about the financial part of weight gaining and nutrition experts advice dont come cheap.
I could eat 10 meals a day and becoming one giant fat blop or I can eat 1/2 a meal a day and be like a lamp post and still think that its my natural weight. But its all personal preference and I dont really care about how u feel ur bf/gf should be like. -
Laurence...woah..lots of info but i stopped reading after all the drug therapy thing. Its just too esoteric and i dont really see the exact relevance but its cool though, to know so much infomation.
And to answer the queztion on how long to finish, i'll say around 2-3 months, it depends how much u take in per day. -
Hehe, the main point is weight management, not weight loss or gain that I am trying to emphasise. Plus once you realise this point, then its what safe and effective products to use.Originally posted by .'.:Laurence...woah..lots of info but i stopped reading after all the drug therapy thing. Its just too esoteric and i dont really see the exact relevance but its cool though, to know so much infomation.
And to answer the queztion on how long to finish, i'll say around 2-3 months, it depends how much u take in per day.
Hey guys, today Straits Times on obesity in US. Please go read.
"Put tdown those chips and lose those hips, man"
Shake ur bob bon, shake ur bon bon, shake it shake it yeah baby yeah..... -
think.. the Atkins Diet has killed a few people.. it's till being touted..
proteins? too much have a problem of causing many problems which are pretty much like the problems in the Atkins Diet... -
Why not do it the natural way?
Have a balanced diet, exercise regularly and I am sure you will be able to gain weight healthily in short time. -
x2Originally posted by the Bear:think.. the Atkins Diet has killed a few people.. it's till being touted..
proteins? too much have a problem of causing many problems which are pretty much like the problems in the Atkins Diet... -
Well, I do recommend, but not for everyone.Originally posted by xavier1979:Why not do it the natural way?
Have a balanced diet, exercise regularly and I am sure you will be able to gain weight healthily in short time.
Diet, however balanced, maybe not be enough. I talk to few nutritionists, and they say diet alone is not enough to supplements our daily nutrition needs. Our normal vegetables, meat, fruits etc, must be consumed in great amounts to have enough for body requirements. If you are talking not about obesity or underweight, but to fight disease, overall health needs, you need even higher requirement.
Meaning, even if you have balanced diet, you may not supplement the body enough for daily nutrition needs and weight management. And if you up that intake, you may not have enough for health maintenance and disease prevention.
Having nutrition products which have higher absorption into the body than food, and much higher nutrients contents helps alot.
For those who pooh pooh health lifestyle, and is intrested more on latest make up, handphones, PDAs and stuff for appearance sake, remember this. You are what you eat. If you look haggard, you wont look nice with them, maybe becoz of sickness cant even use them (choi), no matter how much you stress yourself in work to get that handphone or jewellery.
I want to end this off with Happy Chinese New Year, Shen Ti Jian Kang to every one -
Check out this article,recommended by a certified trainer,lim peh.I don't want to repeat the same thing so many times to all those forumites yearning for extra beef
http://www.flexonline.com/nutr/21
I can provide some online advice to you if you need it.
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i almost took weight gainers and have a whole bunch of frenz who did
so i think i do have some more fatually true info about weight gainers
my take is to try not to take....
1) there ARE side effects
all weight gainers are very heaty
and you will have gulp down tons and tons of water
if not you will fall sick
another thing is that lots of ppl suffer from pimple outbursts
it you don
2) yea, supposedly weight gainers are purely protein (whey or anything else)
but for those who do know about biotechnology, the separation (filtration, distillation sort of crap) process aren't that good
especially when they are trying to cut down costs (bloody lots competition between GNC and the rest of the brands)
regulation is not as tight as it seems even in Singapore
so don't rely on government regulation
if u insist on taking, take only the more established brands
3) though weight gainers seem just like harmless proteins, you must not that it is not just what you take in but the quantity you take in
for those of your who studied bio, you should know that taking weight gainers will upset the natural balance in your body...
a lot of this protein is not absorbed
and people get stuff like brown pee.. from the excess protein
people who live long term on this stuff get kidney failure (some All Blacks guy died i think)
just remember, there are effective alternatives to weight gainers
adjusting your normal diet can do wonders!
another thing, once you start on weight gainers, it's very likely that you will move on to worse stuff like creatine, adroxine and the latest stuff on the market, all these with all the potency (including side effects)
P.S. this stuff is not cheap
go spend the money on your galfren 
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lawrence.... are u the lawrence i know of?? u know james??from SCDF? u play soccer rite?Originally posted by laurence82:Well, I do recommend, but not for everyone.
Diet, however balanced, maybe not be enough. I talk to few nutritionists, and they say diet alone is not enough to supplements our daily nutrition needs. Our normal vegetables, meat, fruits etc, must be consumed in great amounts to have enough for body requirements. If you are talking not about obesity or underweight, but to fight disease, overall health needs, you need even higher requirement.
Meaning, even if you have balanced diet, you may not supplement the body enough for daily nutrition needs and weight management. And if you up that intake, you may not have enough for health maintenance and disease prevention.
Having nutrition products which have higher absorption into the body than food, and much higher nutrients contents helps alot.
For those who pooh pooh health lifestyle, and is intrested more on latest make up, handphones, PDAs and stuff for appearance sake, remember this. You are what you eat. If you look haggard, you wont look nice with them, maybe becoz of sickness cant even use them (choi), no matter how much you stress yourself in work to get that handphone or jewellery.
I want to end this off with Happy Chinese New Year, Shen Ti Jian Kang to every one -
Must clarify my name is laurence, not lawrence. I do not know of any james. Was from army, and i hate soccer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by kanariya:lawrence.... are u the lawrence i know of?? u know james??from SCDF? u play soccer rite? -
i also wanted to gain weight
but no $$ to buys those in GNC
haizzz
i can eat alot, but cant see the effect
and eating alot without gaining weight make me more afraid of getting high blood pressure
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is there any way to gain weight healty??
cause my BMI is only about 17 to 18
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Are your hips wider than your shoulders?Originally posted by sherlockian21:i'm desperately in need of putting on weight. i heard abt the weight gainers. has anyone out there tried consuming this stuff??
if yes, can share exp?? and for one big tube sold in gnc, how long does it take to finish? coz it's rather costly. -
Try getting 1 or 2 isue of the magazine "FLEX". Got very useful; tips on mass gaining.Originally posted by sherlockian21:i'm desperately in need of putting on weight. i heard abt the weight gainers. has anyone out there tried consuming this stuff??
if yes, can share exp?? and for one big tube sold in gnc, how long does it take to finish? coz it's rather costly.
Also if possible read up on nutrition and gym alike from the libary.
The basic rules to weight gaining is to consume more calories than you would have spent.
For example a normal calories intake for an adult is about 2000 TO 2500 JOULES (IF i'M NOT MISTAKEN) per day. Any excess to that amout will be deemed as excess and excess equal to additional weight.
however weight gaining is more to that described as above, cos excess calories intake most often will result in gaining more fat than than pure mass.(remember do not use your weight as a judgement of weight gain cos muscle is heavier than fat)
The point is really simple, it all depends on what type of mass you want to gain in, fat or muscle?
The latter calls for weight trainng with a sound diet of high protien and carbo.
Its really a complicated process of nutritioning and exercise though if you ask me thats y I suggest you read up on some health or weight training magazines.
All is not loss though remember dun overdo anything, treat it as a trial and error process of nutritioning and exercising, and have fun doing it!!! -
heya.. so many ppl want to gain weight
can start writing Gain Weight 101 Menu
gain weight very easy one...
1) do lots of exercise (not too much runs thought)
2) eat lots of food
all those eat 2 bowls of rice for dinner say eat a lot
actually this not enough one...
if you exercise a lot, then can eat much more
some ppl can gain weight from NS lah
but heard some ppl say NS to slack to really gain weight
don't noe true or not
all of you who want to gain weight
write down what you all doing to try to gain weight
then let all those that know can help you
maybe can improve a bit on your methods