gays and butches

• veLvEtgEr

  31 Dec 03, 19:50

  Originally posted by Devil1976:

  Your situation defines 'barrier'. When you know that a person is 'gay', chances are you'll feel more 'at ease' with him (If you don't detest a gay). There won't be much worries about him going after you and other complications which may occur. Pressure tends to be minimial.
  
  Just like if you're with an attached guy whom you can trust, AND there're psychological pressure from his gf or the people surrounding you two (or even you and himself). There is 'ease'.
  
  As much as I can agree with you, some gays are really nice guys (though not all).
  
  Regarding whether a gay or lesbian can accept a girl or guy's straight BGR approach. Depends on the situation. Like earlier mentioned, such defines can now be mainly categorised into 3 in my opinion.
  
  1. Born physiological nature.
  2. Pushed or driven psychological nature. By one's belief or bad relationship experience(s).
  3. Wannabe. A trend.
  
  Acceptance or reversibility is generally in conjunction with the 3 levels. With 'Wannabe' being the easier to accept a straight relationship IN GENERAL. Of course, things may not be always as straight forward as that and might have much more to be taken into considerations...

  well... he definitely displays 'girlish' behaviour at times, but sometimes he does behave like a real gentleman, very classy and sophisticated. the way he deals with things is very matured and efficient, which is what i admire. he is able to counsel effectively, but at the same time, create some humor to put u at ease. i feel so comfortable just being around him....and thats probably the reason why i like him?
  
  anyway from my knowledge (i know some of his outside friends), he was all along very 'sissified'. probably he is borned this way?
  
  *SIGH* DILEMMA!
• eutjin

  31 Dec 03, 19:54

  Originally posted by veLvEtgEr:

  well... he definitely displays 'girlish' behaviour at times, but sometimes he does behave like a real gentleman, very classy and sophisticated. the way he deals with things is very matured and efficient, which is what i admire. he is able to counsel effectively, but at the same time, create some humor to put u at ease. i feel so comfortable just being around him....and thats probably the reason why i like him?
  
  anyway from my knowledge (i know some of his outside friends), he was all along very 'sissified'. probably he is borned this way?
  
  *SIGH* DILEMMA!

  gays often make a lot of money. they are good in their sense of fashion and style. that's why they have jobs like fashion design, advertising, etc.
  
  and i think Devil hit the jackpot. you are comfortable with him, that is why you are attracted to him. plus, he's probably different from the other guys you happen to know.
• jolin80

  31 Dec 03, 20:23

  it is possible for both gay and butch to turn straight
  i had some frd that are butch
  they alway kena hurt by guy that y they choose to becum butch
  depend on suituation loh
  wel to be frank i do prefer to b butch
  it's quite fun n nice to one 2
  
  
• antoh

  31 Dec 03, 20:24

  is cool ... understand their world man ... fantastic
• HENG@

  2 Jan 04, 13:04

  Originally posted by antoh:

  is cool ... understand their world man ... fantastic

  agreed
• BLIM

  2 Jan 04, 16:00

  Hi Vel,
  
  I'm also gay
• Devil1976

  2 Jan 04, 16:56

  Originally posted by BLIM:

  Hi Vel,
  
  I'm also gay