Not a virgin?How much can you accept?
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x 3..........Originally posted by boy in blues:x 2.
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hmm makes sense! well i guess, if she is really faithful. and well maybe she slept with 1 guy or smth.. and she really loves me and i do love her (this is just theory) i know i am giving my best to her, since i am a virgin.. its ok, tis better to give than to receive? lol.. but more impt she loves me too and stay faithfulOriginally posted by Yunhaier:
There is a fine line difference between bu zi ai and 'Series Monogramy.'
Having a sexual relationship with one bf/gf that they love (thus not a virgin) and considering that you have three relationship or something before is considered Series Monogramy. (Maintaining faithfulness to one's partner during period of relationship and don't indulge in sexual relationship with others in the meantime) This is different from a girl sleeping with 50 men and loved only some of them.
You above scenario is already different because it's not so much about the subject of virginity - it more about her poor attitude towards sex, lust and love.
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i do of course..Originally posted by SGpork:but..people still perfer vrigin right..
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Actually I meant my friends was faithful during the relationship... its the partner finding out the past and dumped her quite sad....
The fact most gals gave for love like series monagamy if for quite a few times i guess they were either quite silly or just trying to hope for the best perhaps like a miracle? Than guys condemn them. Shouldnt guys condemn the gals who gave up their virginity for money or other personal profitable reasons or simple to say trade sex for gains? -
Not impt. the character stands nope...actualy is feeling standsOriginally posted by Angles:What does gals and guys thinks of future partner virginity?
Is it very important to you? Or is it his/her heart that treats you which is true that matters? -
aiyah....most ppl here r protecting the freedom to make love lah.....dats y say virginity not important...if virginity really not important, y not those virgin gals give their virgin to me? since its not important rite?
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hmm last time virginity means alot to me.. but i realise.. its just an ideal...
at the rate i see things... lol die la.
but hear this, dun listen to ppl who say they dun mind la blah blah...
inside... they will feel uncomfortable also, the thought of someone who fcuked your girl b4. abit funny la -
my personal opinion is that most people when they say dun mind, they are not being true to themselves. most people will mind somehow, it's just the extent and degree of their acceptance towards it. not minding it and accepting it can be a different matter from each other.
i got hear from guy friends that if they want a long term relationship or the serious rp type, they would want and/or prefer a virgin. if sh'es not, they wil feel uncomfortable. after all most guys are ego and of cos hope to be their gf's first onez.
i even got a guy friend saying he doesnt want 'used good' and said 'what's used cannot be unused'. -
Originally posted by Angles:Actually I meant my friends was faithful during the relationship... its the partner finding out the past and dumped her quite sad....
The fact most gals gave for love like series monagamy if for quite a few times i guess they were either quite silly or just trying to hope for the best perhaps like a miracle? Than guys condemn them. Shouldnt guys condemn the gals who gave up their virginity for money or other personal profitable reasons or simple to say trade sex for gains? Haiz, then it really depends on the positive influence around her to assist.
Making love is a state of enjoyment by two parties; comparative to a good farmer's havest while maintaining the soil in top conditions. Your friend gave in sex in exchange for security - it is like a farmer trying to mass-plant crops without practicing crop rotation. Sooner or later, the soil would be nutrient-dead and no matter what the farmer tries to do - its difficult to reverse the process and the only way is to abandon the field.
If your relationship didn't reach that level of emotional, mental and spiritual foundation - implicating sexual relationship in serious BGR will affect the relationship for ill.
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Some girls gave out of love but got dumped by guys. Maybe those guys who does tt shld tink twice bout condemning girls because they have no right to because they arent too pure too. You have a right to mind only if you are one. Many people are engaging in physical activities these days, if one is looking for pure, he/she might as well be a monk or nun. These are things you cant bring go when you are dead. Are external factors this impt? If he/she despite his/her outstanding history prove to you tt they are willing to go throw thick and thin with you, isnt it more valuable than what their past is? I really cant understand ppl these days. Its hard to find someone who b with u thr always but easy to find a virgin even in times like this. Love is about the heart, the soul. You only have nightmares only when you insist on asking. If your partner choose to lie, you will never know either. They said their past because they treasure you. Worst, some people go ard bad-mouthing other gals or guys because they detest them in a way. Some even gang up to frame people, if one is so virgin consious, might as well forget having a relationship.(no offence)
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Well as someone mentioned it is about a man's ego. Accepting a non virgin and minding a non virgin partner is completely two different issue.
What is a virginity? It is just about a state before any sexual experience. But what is so difficult about completely not minding a person past is because the idea that your partner has been intimate with someone else before. The irony is that because you truly love the person thats why you feel uncomfortable with the idea that your partner has been up close and personal with somebody you probably dunno know. Worse if it is someone you knew.
A good example is the undergarment (underwear/panties). We would always like to use brand new undergarment and not someone's hand-me-down. If force to accept, we will wash a few times before wearing. Even though it is clean, we will still feel uncomfortable because it is something personal. -
i agree!!Originally posted by silkmagic:Well as someone mentioned it is about a man's ego. Accepting a non virgin and minding a non virgin partner is completely two different issue.
What is a virginity? It is just about a state before any sexual experience. But what is so difficult about completely not minding a person past is because the idea that your partner has been intimate with someone else before. The irony is that because you truly love the person thats why you feel uncomfortable with the idea that your partner has been up close and personal with somebody you probably dunno know. Worse if it is someone you knew.
A good example is the undergarment (underwear/panties). We would always like to use brand new undergarment and not someone's hand-me-down. If force to accept, we will wash a few times before wearing. Even though it is clean, we will still feel uncomfortable because it is something personal. -
i agree!!Originally posted by silkmagic:Well as someone mentioned it is about a man's ego. Accepting a non virgin and minding a non virgin partner is completely two different issue.
What is a virginity? It is just about a state before any sexual experience. But what is so difficult about completely not minding a person past is because the idea that your partner has been intimate with someone else before. The irony is that because you truly love the person thats why you feel uncomfortable with the idea that your partner has been up close and personal with somebody you probably dunno know. Worse if it is someone you knew.
A good example is the undergarment (underwear/panties). We would always like to use brand new undergarment and not someone's hand-me-down. If force to accept, we will wash a few times before wearing. Even though it is clean, we will still feel uncomfortable because it is something personal. -
well, the guys lose nothing....but when a gal lose her virgin....hai....Originally posted by Angles:Some girls gave out of love but got dumped by guys. Maybe those guys who does tt shld tink twice bout condemning girls because they have no right to because they arent too pure too. You have a right to mind only if you are one. Many people are engaging in physical activities these days, if one is looking for pure, he/she might as well be a monk or nun. These are things you cant bring go when you are dead. Are external factors this impt? If he/she despite his/her outstanding history prove to you tt they are willing to go throw thick and thin with you, isnt it more valuable than what their past is? I really cant understand ppl these days. Its hard to find someone who b with u thr always but easy to find a virgin even in times like this. Love is about the heart, the soul. You only have nightmares only when you insist on asking. If your partner choose to lie, you will never know either. They said their past because they treasure you. Worst, some people go ard bad-mouthing other gals or guys because they detest them in a way. Some even gang up to frame people, if one is so virgin consious, might as well forget having a relationship.(no offence)
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doesn't matter to me man; the heart, the chemistry matter more; if u care to much about the past, most likely u're not gonna enjoy NOW...Originally posted by Angles:What does gals and guys thinks of future partner virginity?
Is it very important to you? Or is it his/her heart that treats you which is true that matters?
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actually to me, when u are with someone that you really love but she lost her virginity you will feel a bit wierd unless you have had sex with too many guys or girls depends on if you are a girl or a guy and you feel that virginity is no longer a topic you are bothered over. normal people would mind more or less if their partner is a virgin or not deep inside their heart. love is one thing. virginity is one thing. if one girl gives off virginity too easily for eg. 50% of her past relationships, that shows that she no longer cherish her body anymore being "extremely close" to so many guys then how SPECIAL can you feel compared to her past boyfriends? since sex is often thought as the "most intimate" act and she had experienced it with other guys.
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Anyway to me if my gf gave off 1 or twice its fine with me. because most of the girls gave off their virginity at their first relationship having little knowledge of the world of love therefore to me its forgivable. but of cause i would feel wierd in the start and its okay as the feeling fades. minding one's virginity is because that you love that person so much and have a minset that shes yours thats why you mind that shes not a virgin cause "someone did something CLOSE with the person thats "yours". but well again if its 1 or 2 times... i wouldnt mind. everyone make mistakes. one should be forgiven for reasonable explainations.. but for those who did it more than that hmmm.. well they should think over if what they are doing are correct. -peace out-
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I cannot accept a non-virgin serious girlfrend... like someone else has said, wat's used is used, cannot be un-used...
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To those virgins out thr be proud if you are one keep it up, you wont regret your choice at least I have not regret mine but pls don condemn those who aint. You nv know one day u might b part of the non V grp and others saying u too. (things r unpredictable esp feelings)
Love = loving the person everytink including their past.
What some say tinks used cannot be unused... actually you don really love him/her, you just want possession of them to be your own, irregardless is person or tinks. (although I admit will have funny feeling). when you wan them to only yours, its ideal thought however thr is no perfection. So some people don mind monster to be their them partner than (attitude,character etc) in order to want a virgin partner?
People can accept divorced ppl but no sex b4 marriage. actuali both same products, diff approach. Besides, if ur partner is determined to lie, I doubt you can find out. Lastly, If one is willingly to give up someone who is willingly to die for jus bcos they aint Vs just to want a V. I seriously tink sth nds to change. Its hard to find someone who goes thru thick and thin but easy to find virgins even in a time like this. -
virgin can tell la... if she like damn experienced in bed... erm fishy le
but usually in sex mode, human brain like shut down, lol logic = non existance
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But dun u think that Love should be pure? And virginity = purity. I've always believed in Fate, when the time comes, u will know which one is really the chosen one. So i've never rushed into giving my virginity away.Originally posted by Angles:Love = loving the person everytink including their past.
What some say tinks used cannot be unused... actually you don really love him/her, you just want possession of them to be your own, irregardless is person or tinks. (although I admit will have funny feeling). when you wan them to only yours, its ideal thought however thr is no perfection. So some people don mind monster to be their them partner than (attitude,character etc) in order to want a virgin partner?
There are so many divorces out there in the world, dun u think they brought it to themselves? They rushed into marriage without really knowing who they are marrying... Some couldn't resist the temptation of sex and when by mistake, a baby is created, they rush into a shotgun marriage... all without really knowing the other party... -
But dun u think that Love should be pure? And virginity = purity. I've always believed in Fate, when the time comes, u will know which one is really the chosen one. So i've never rushed into giving my virginity away.
Love isnt pure... Love novels are pure. Relationships is complication. hmmm... U know even I being a V wants to spk up for those who arent because I hate to see them being condemn. Love is sth special and beyond words of explanation. I guess, when you truly taste it than you perhaps might understand why those things took place. To me, humans are selfish. No humans are perfect. Being not a virgin is one of the imperfections. virginity is just a status. I keep it cos thr r just too many selfish ppl ard, I dont want to regret. Many are perhaps restraining themselves for the sake of watever reasons they had.
There are so many divorces out there in the world, dun u think they brought it to themselves? They rushed into marriage without really knowing who they are marrying... Some couldn't resist the temptation of sex and when by mistake, a baby is created, they rush into a shotgun marriage... all without really knowing the other party...
Like I said, its hard to find someone dying for you but easy to find a virgin partner even in times like this. You know, giving up someone who is willing to go thru thick and thin wif u for the sake of virginity is silly.I dun really know how to put them into words but I hope u understand wat I mean.
If you aint curious, you will probably live in the shadows not knowing the truth. Your life would be happier. -
Some tinks are better not known
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if you cant accept the truth
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Although I don know how it might happen but I guess if you wan to fake innocence on bed, you could. If your acting skills are good enough, one perhaps cant tell.