I have dounts on my wierd school rules..its bothering me
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My school has this wierd rule. Loitering-- Students would not be allowed to visit shopping centres or sit under void decks in their school uniforms. PUNISHMENT: Detention; CWO for repeat offenders. Recently, the definition of loitering has been extended to include, no visiting a minimart under the void deck or eating at the food court of a shopping centre. However, visiting the library in a shopping centre is allowed for 20 minutes only.It would seem that my school is the only school in Singapore that considers a visit to the mini mart an offence. The rationale given here is that food is available in school and thus, there is no need for you to buy food from outside.
I need to ask, is this rule against my rights of freedom of movement? Also I wonder which other schools have this rule?
EDIT: title should read Doubts instead of dounts -
If you could write that rule out here in full, I would be glad to find all the loopholes in it for you. I'll be waiting,
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Wa, so strict. Wat sch is tat?
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When does a school rule infringe your rights as a citizen of Singapore.Seems like this school is quite praetorian in nature.PM your school to me if you don't feel comfy about naming it...Hmm, those that you've named do not sound legal in the normal sense.
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Well thats the details of the rule. Also all loopholes would be tied and secured with glue. There is a clause in the school rules that mention "Any other offences not covered above, Punishment would be determined by P/VP/ Discipline master/OM etc etc.
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just tell us more.. uncle here maybe able to find holes for u one...Originally posted by shade343:Well thats the details of the rule. Also all loopholes would be tied and secured with glue. There is a clause in the school rules that mention "Any other offences not covered above, Punishment would be determined by P/VP/ Discipline master/OM etc etc.
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Well Im thinking of calling the New paper to check it outOriginally posted by LazerLordz:When does a school rule infringe your rights as a citizen of Singapore.Seems like this school is quite praetorian in nature.PM your school to me if you don't feel comfy about naming it...Hmm, those that you've named do not sound legal in the normal sense.
I hate my school rules. My school has been touted by my principal as a " PRemier Choice School"
I believe this rule is unreasonable as the food sold in the school is unfit for human consumption, thus the mini mart provides a better alternative to the food sold in school. -
thats all. The rule book does not say anything more.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):just tell us more.. uncle here maybe able to find holes for u one... 
It says that the rationale behind it is too ensure pupils go home on time.
BTW, my school is in the east.LOL -
Your school is a worthy opponent true enough, it read my nasty thoughts before I could even mention.
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I don't find the rules weirdOriginally posted by shade343:My school has this wierd rule. Loitering-- Students would not be allowed to visit shopping centres or sit under void decks in their school uniforms. PUNISHMENT: Detention; CWO for repeat offenders. Recently, the definition of loitering has been extended to include, no visiting a minimart under the void deck or eating at the food court of a shopping centre. However, visiting the library in a shopping centre is allowed for 20 minutes only.It would seem that my school is the only school in Singapore that considers a visit to the mini mart an offence. The rationale given here is that food is available in school and thus, there is no need for you to buy food from outside.
I need to ask, is this rule against my rights of freedom of movement? Also I wonder which other schools have this rule?
EDIT: title should read Doubts instead of dounts
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Why not? If you were a student of a school, and the food in the canteen sucks, would you not venture out to eat? But the school has decided that if you do that, canteen operators would be losing out because profit for them would be down. So this is a protectionist rule in my opinion. And its also a rule that restricts your freedom in the name ofOriginally posted by SnowFlag:I don't find the rules weird -
unlawful restrain - 1. to obstruct a person of going in a place where he has every right by law to proceed. By use of force, or threat to a person in which he believes that harm to his being might result from proceeding in the direction that he has the right to proceed.
Unlawful confinement - 2. To confine a person to a place by which he is unable to leave peacefully. By use of force, or verbal threats to a person in which he believes that harm to his being might result from leaving a place by which he has every right to leave.
i hope this helps you....also if you need legal advise pls email me at [email protected] -
But what about detention or confinement using rules which you must abide by?Originally posted by Thailand_Hero:unlawful restrain - 1. to obstruct a person of going in a place where he has every right by law to proceed. By use of force, or threat to a person in which he believes that harm to his being might result from proceeding in the direction that he has the right to proceed.
Unlawful confinement - 2. To confine a person to a place by which he is unable to leave peacefully. By use of force, or verbal threats to a person in which he believes that harm to his being might result from leaving a place by which he has every right to leave.
i hope this helps you....also if you need legal advise pls email me at [email protected] -
you may break school rules...but it does not mean that you may have broken the law. the law protects all citizens and everyone has equal rights under the law.Originally posted by shade343:But what about detention or confinement using rules which you must abide by?
if you had broken the school rules and is confined by the school, the punishment is metted out by the school and not the law. therefore the punishment has to be just and within guidelines let by the MOE. As a student you can choose not to be punished. And rather leave the school if you deem the punishment unjust. -
I smell a lawyer...which means a potential spearing target!Originally posted by ditzy:If you could write that rule out here in full, I would be glad to find all the loopholes in it for you. I'll be waiting, 
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RULE NO. 1: - Don't get into SERIOUS TROUBLES.Originally posted by shade343:My school has this wierd rule. Loitering-- Students would not be allowed to visit shopping centres or sit under void decks in their school uniforms. PUNISHMENT: Detention; CWO for repeat offenders. Recently, the definition of loitering has been extended to include, no visiting a minimart under the void deck or eating at the food court of a shopping centre. However, visiting the library in a shopping centre is allowed for 20 minutes only.It would seem that my school is the only school in Singapore that considers a visit to the mini mart an offence. The rationale given here is that food is available in school and thus, there is no need for you to buy food from outside.
I need to ask, is this rule against my rights of freedom of movement? Also I wonder which other schools have this rule?
EDIT: title should read Doubts instead of dounts
RULE NO. 2: - Don't loiter around in your school uniforms. -
Seems like a trend for some schools. I heard of some schools in the North implementing such rules too.
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sniff...sniff...nope I dun smell no thing.Originally posted by cooleo:I smell a lawyer...which means a potential spearing target! Ah choo!!!~~~ -
I think all you need to do is to bring a t-shirt and change out of it when you go to these places.Originally posted by shade343:My school has this wierd rule. Loitering-- Students would not be allowed to visit shopping centres or sit under void decks in their school uniforms. PUNISHMENT: Detention; CWO for repeat offenders. Recently, the definition of loitering has been extended to include, no visiting a minimart under the void deck or eating at the food court of a shopping centre. However, visiting the library in a shopping centre is allowed for 20 minutes only.It would seem that my school is the only school in Singapore that considers a visit to the mini mart an offence. The rationale given here is that food is available in school and thus, there is no need for you to buy food from outside.
I need to ask, is this rule against my rights of freedom of movement? Also I wonder which other schools have this rule?
EDIT: title should read Doubts instead of dounts
Honestly, lots of the things they do not allow you to do does not fall under the defination of the word 'Loiter'. Give your principal a dictionary and bookmark and highlight the word and meaning for her la.
Anyway, if you're studying under a void deck or in a library I can't see it as an issue. What schools are afriad off is that students will misbehave in their uniforms and tarnish the school's name. -
But the school has been overzealous in doing it. They actually send teachers to patrol shopping centres like Tampines Mall and century square. And the teachers are equipped with handphone cameras to snap pictures of you--so you cant deny that you did not loiter. Yes. Originally the rationale behind this rule is to prevent students from tarnishing the school's good image and prevent them from not going home. But they have gone overbroad when they started punishing students for buying curry puffs at the mini-mart. How fair is that? And it is also against the school's rule to bring a T shirt to school or wear a T shirt underneath your school uniform.Originally posted by elindra:I think all you need to do is to bring a t-shirt and change out of it when you go to these places.
Honestly, lots of the things they do not allow you to do does not fall under the defination of the word 'Loiter'. Give your principal a dictionary and bookmark and highlight the word and meaning for her la.
Anyway, if you're studying under a void deck or in a library I can't see it as an issue. What schools are afriad off is that students will misbehave in their uniforms and tarnish the school's name.
We Have to GO HOME and Change into our home clothes before going out. -
Wah liao....how come like concentration camp like that.Originally posted by shade343:But the school has been overzealous in doing it. They actually send teachers to patrol shopping centres like Tampines Mall and century square. And the teachers are equipped with handphone cameras to snap pictures of you--so you cant deny that you did not loiter. Yes. Originally the rationale behind this rule is to prevent students from tarnishing the school's good image and prevent them from not going home. But they have gone overbroad when they started punishing students for buying curry puffs at the mini-mart. How fair is that? And it is also against the school's rule to bring a T shirt to school or wear a T shirt underneath your school uniform.
We Have to GO HOME and Change into our home clothes before going out.
This is really a little too much. Easy la. If can get parents to agree that this is too much then get everyone to sign a petition letter la. But I think the teachers also nothing better to do. Might as well spend the time marking papers instead of loitering around the shopping centre waiting for students to appear to punish.
Now I call that loitering. Wahaha -
OH we used to change before going out.
Also if you're skipping classes always have change of clothes. I used to not bring one.. people would be staring at me... Ooppps. .
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Originally posted by elindra:Wah liao....how come like concentration camp like that.
This is really a little too much. Easy la. If can get parents to agree that this is too much then get everyone to sign a petition letter la. But I think the teachers also nothing better to do. Might as well spend the time marking papers instead of loitering around the shopping centre waiting for students to appear to punish.
Now I call that loitering. Wahaha LOL. The teachers think its a waste of time as well because they are only given $8 pocket money to spend in the shopping centres. Frankly speaking, Ive spoken too much teachers in the school and most of them agree that this is a waste of time. Only the Discipline Master seems to enjoy it. -
Maybe you can try writing an anoymous letter to your principal la, and state clearly the reasons why its stupid in a nice way and give suggestions like instead of the teachers wasting time there, they might as well use the time to organize after school activities for studentsOriginally posted by shade343: LOL. The teachers think its a waste of time as well because they are only given $8 pocket money to spend in the shopping centres. Frankly speaking, Ive spoken too much teachers in the school and most of them agree that this is a waste of time. Only the Discipline Master seems to enjoy it.
Wah liao at least more beneficial and fun la. Educational too. No need to be able studies. Can be after school sports or some handicraft lessons or what ma. Small nominal fee also can what. Most ppl go shopping centre spend money on nonsense anyway coz nothing better to do. -
Call New Paper.