SINGAPORE: A Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) Operationally-Ready National Serviceman died Tuesday after completing a 2.4 kilometre run.
A statement from the Defence Ministry said 28-year-old Corporal (CPL) (NS) Li Hongyang was taking his Individual Physical Proficiency Test when he fainted at about 8.30 am on Tuesday.
The incident took place at Kranji Camp III.
MINDEF
said an SAF medic on site attended to Corporal Li immediately and
evacuated him via a safety vehicle to the Kranji Medical Centre where an
SAF doctor attended to him.
Corporal Li was then sent to the Khoo Teck Puat Hospital at 9.00 am.
MINDEF said the SAF doctor continued to resuscitate him in the ambulance en route to the hospital.
Corporal Li was pronounced dead at 9.40 am at the hospital.
Lieutenant-Colonel
(NS) Gan Fong Yin, Commanding Officer of 62 Combat Service Support
Battalion, said: "Hongyang was a cherished member of the battalion. His
demise is definitely a loss to the battalion. We will miss him and our
hearts go out to his family."
- CNA/cc
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on a side note, people here seems more humane than those reading yahoo news. all the comments there was like wondering if 2.4 or ippt will be scraped, someone worried cause his ippt coming soon, or simply idioitic ones like "hey i was there today". fucked up minds.
Originally posted by Gerberad:on a side note, people here seems more humane than those reading yahoo news.
People here in sgforums are more comradery and compassionate.
i don't give a damn if SAF or mindef see my post or not. 28-year-old Corporal (CPL) (NS) Li Hongyang was someone dearest son out there and SAF can forget thing like this in a few month time. to them (SAF and mindef) is not their problem. end of the day they can kill someone dearest son again effortless in a hiding format like IPPT. if corporal hongyang choose not to go. he still have one more day with the love one. because he don't reserve to die in this way. in a way people treat u as nothing. RIP CORPORAL
Originally posted by nokiaboy34:i don't give a damn if SAF or mindef see my post or not. 28-year-old Corporal (CPL) (NS) Li Hongyang was someone dearest son out there and SAF can forget thing like this in a few month time. to them (SAF and mindef) is not their problem. end of the day they can kill someone dearest son again effortless in a hiding format like IPPT. if corporal hongyang choose not to go. he still have one more day with the love one. because he don't reserve to die in this way. in a way people treat u as nothing. RIP CORPORAL
is something wrong with the ippt format?
Seek exemptions.
Originally posted by alize:Seek exemptions.
Originally posted by Xiao Shi Ren:I think I have my answer about G6PD at PES FAQ Page 39 http://sgforums.com/forums/1390/topics/395004?p…
Now I got this question: 1/My NSF time my OC say that if one faint during training without falling out is a chargable offences. Is it true? 2/If one faint during training and found out that one got serious medical condition but not declare, chargable offences?
G6PD is a blood disorder. Some people are ok; Some are not. Most people are Pes B with G6PD!
Originally posted by Lokey:G6PD is a blood disorder. Some people are ok; Some are not. Most people are Pes B with G6PD!
Originally posted by Xiao Shi Ren:
Thanks for the reply. But I hope can help me answer those questions too: 1/Faint during training without falling out can be charge? (My NSF OC told us) 2/Found out hiding some condition (but no memo), even see MO before but no outcome, can be charge also? 3/Develope condition during NS can be charge? (Pre-enlist I have no G6PD, ORD FFI then found G6PD presents) Hope someone can reply. Thanks in advance.
you must have been brainwashed/ psycho-ed during NS that "anything under the sun can be charged", which turns out to be completely false...
please know your rights as a NSF/ NSman...
if u don't feel well before going to ippt. DON'T GO DON'T RISK YOUR LIVES. remember we have human right too. they can't force us to go ippt if u are sick. that inhuman way doing.
Originally posted by Xiao Shi Ren:
Thanks for the reply. But I hope can help me answer those questions too: 1/Faint during training without falling out can be charge? (My NSF OC told us) 2/Found out hiding some condition (but no memo), even see MO before but no outcome, can be charge also? 3/Develope condition during NS can be charge? (Pre-enlist I have no G6PD, ORD FFI then found G6PD presents) Hope someone can reply. Thanks in advance.
do you mean malingering?
for active maybe. reservist i doubt.
i used to be S1 clerk. they dont charge reservist unless absolutely necessary.
Originally posted by Xiao Shi Ren:
Thanks for the reply. But I hope can help me answer those questions too: 1/Faint during training without falling out can be charge? (My NSF OC told us) 2/Found out hiding some condition (but no memo), even see MO before but no outcome, can be charge also? 3/Develope condition during NS can be charge? (Pre-enlist I have no G6PD, ORD FFI then found G6PD presents) Hope someone can reply. Thanks in advance.
1. Faint during training without falling out ==> charge
You sure your OC really told you that?
2. Hiding some condition
If you have a pre-existing medical condition, just sound off, memo or no memo. If you get injured as a direct result of that condition, and they find out that you didn't declare it even though you knew about it, you can get into trouble.
3. Develop condition ==> charge
Who told you that?
Originally posted by fudgester:1. Faint during training without falling out ==> charge
You sure your OC really told you that?
2. Hiding some condition
If you have a pre-existing medical condition, just sound off, memo or no memo. If you get injured as a direct result of that condition, and they find out that you didn't declare it even though you knew about it, you can get into trouble.
3. Develop condition ==> charge
Who told you that?
Originally posted by Xiao Shi Ren:
My NSF OC say before malingering is worsen the condition by fainting without preventing it. He also say unhygienic (eg. getting foot rot, soil diease) can be charge. Well I must say this OC is a very famous CPT in SAF especially in BMT. Guess who is he? (Clue: Don't drag your boots! Whole lot knock it down!) Btw, I did see MO about shortage of breath and chest pain during run. But he say is just physical exhaustion and muscle ache. Polyclinic doctor say the same thing but give me a inhaler I request from him. Army doctor cannot be trusted. Polyclinic doctor hard to request specialist. zzzzz
It's very obvious that the OC is inducing and instilling fear in you.
Originally posted by Xiao Shi Ren:
My NSF OC say before malingering is worsen the condition by fainting without preventing it. He also say unhygienic (eg. getting foot rot, soil diease) can be charge. Well I must say this OC is a very famous CPT in SAF especially in BMT. Guess who is he? (Clue: Don't drag your boots! Whole lot knock it down!) Btw, I did see MO about shortage of breath and chest pain during run. But he say is just physical exhaustion and muscle ache. Polyclinic doctor say the same thing but give me a inhaler I request from him. Army doctor cannot be trusted. Polyclinic doctor hard to request specialist. zzzzz
1. Uh.... no. Maligering means faking an illness when you don't have one.
Your OC is talking rubbish.
As a medic, I've seen plenty of fainting cases before, and none were ever charged for malingering..... because it is totally not malingering.
2. Foot rot is technically a chargeable offence, but I have never heard of anyone actually getting charged for that.
After all, wasting cookhouse food is also a chargeable offence, but no one has ever been charged for that.
3. 'Don't drag your boots! Whole lot knock it down!'
Sorry, but that sounds like every 3SG and above at Tekong.
4. If the MO says that it's just physical exhaustion, then it most probably is.
Every mother's son who is not physically fit will have chest aches and shortness of breath the first few times they go for physical training.
If you have never even experienced this during your PE sessions in school, then I must question whether your PE teacher was doing his job.