NTI-PARIS
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Good day guys....
Me a clone? Since when? I am still alive and kicking here! Definately I have work to do thus not able to post anything here. -
the NTI senior managers are very free when come to surfing internet but when come to work.. they act busy. haiz.
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They all good at this - refund, got problems or anything they say they busy when they actually go to nearby kopitiam to chat and smoke with their FOOLlowers. But when comes to cheating people they hang around and if they see the response is good for the prospect, they will chip in and make their presence known, so that people will,'Wow! That's a RSD sia! (Retarded Sick Donkey)". If the prospect difficult, they talk for a while then siam so they won't lose face. Bunch of cowards.
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Neutrend, it is common knowlege that you are one of our 'failed' agents who have given up and are now spreading this negativity in order to cover up your own shortcomings and lack of perseverance. I have one thing to say to you.
Please. grow up.
Blaming everything in NTI and spreading these things all day long is not going to help. Neither is your impotent ranting in a public forum that you have been scammed or cheated when in the first place you did not even put in any effort.
If you persist in this kind of attitude, then not only NTI is a scam company to you, but every company you join you will also have this kind of result. Then you will spend even more time posting such unproductive things in forums while wasting your time. Please find something more constructive to do.
Otherwise by the time you find yourself on par with your good friend who has 20,000 posts in this forum, other people will already have improved by leaps and bounds and increased their incomes and you would achieved...erm, the right to post your picture under your name and you don't even dare to post your own picture?
By the time you have 20,000 posts denouncing NTI, we may be celebrating our 4th or 5 anniversary? I may even be a Regional Sales Director or International Sales Director myself. Maybe by the time you have 50,000 posts in this forum I would already have learnt enough to open my own company under the umbrella of our Empire Group Alliance. And all you would have proven is your lack of substance you would continue to be angry, jealous and envious of other people's success where you have failed. -
"Lian Jie", as far as I know, the REAL "Lian Jie" is still happily working at NTI building his personal network. You on the other hand, having abandoned your partner at NTI whom you promised to work together with hand in hand, are now in here as one of the faceless masses who only know how to point fingers and criticise.Originally posted by Lian Jie:the NTI senior managers are very free when come to surfing internet but when come to work.. they act busy. haiz.
You are just like one of those people who like to scribble other people's handphone numbers in toilet stalls offering free blow jobs etc as a prank. So please, stop your nonsense and grow up. If you want to post, please use your own identity or create your own personal persona. Don't highjack other people's names to try and spoil their reputation.
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Originally posted by IamfromNTI:
hMz...so, what's the ratio of ppl "succeeding" in NTI compared to ppl "failing" in NTI for the past 2years?
[b]Neutrend, it is common knowlege that you are one of our 'failed' agents who have given up and are now spreading this negativity in order to cover up your own shortcomings and lack of perseverance. I have one thing to say to you.
Please. grow up.
Blaming everything in NTI and spreading these things all day long is not going to help. Neither is your impotent ranting in a public forum that you have been scammed or cheated when in the first place you did not even put in any effort.
If you persist in this kind of attitude, then not only NTI is a scam company to you, but every company you join you will also have this kind of result. Then you will spend even more time posting such unproductive things in forums while wasting your time. Please find something more constructive to do.
Otherwise by the time you find yourself on par with your good friend who has 20,000 posts in this forum, other people will already have improved by leaps and bounds and increased their incomes and you would achieved...erm, the right to post your picture under your name and you don't even dare to post your own picture?
By the time you have 20,000 posts denouncing NTI, we may be celebrating our 4th or 5 anniversary? I may even be a Regional Sales Director or International Sales Director myself. Maybe by the time you have 50,000 posts in this forum I would already have learnt enough to open my own company under the umbrella of our Empire Group Alliance. And all you would have proven is your lack of substance you would continue to be angry, jealous and envious of other people's success where you have failed.[/b]
Maybe he'll be better than you?
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Originally posted by IamfromNTI:
hey, say me too leh? I also from NTI what - but I have worked hard, but left NOT because I did not earn money, but because of scammers like you who loves twisting words around to confuse people and strutting your arrogance.
[b]Neutrend, it is common knowlege that you are one of our 'failed' agents who have given up and are now spreading this negativity in order to cover up your own shortcomings and lack of perseverance. I have one thing to say to you.
Please. grow up.
Blaming everything in NTI and spreading these things all day long is not going to help. Neither is your impotent ranting in a public forum that you have been scammed or cheated when in the first place you did not even put in any effort.
If you persist in this kind of attitude, then not only NTI is a scam company to you, but every company you join you will also have this kind of result. Then you will spend even more time posting such unproductive things in forums while wasting your time. Please find something more constructive to do.
Otherwise by the time you find yourself on par with your good friend who has 20,000 posts in this forum, other people will already have improved by leaps and bounds and increased their incomes and you would achieved...erm, the right to post your picture under your name and you don't even dare to post your own picture?
By the time you have 20,000 posts denouncing NTI, we may be celebrating our 4th or 5 anniversary? I may even be a Regional Sales Director or International Sales Director myself. Maybe by the time you have 50,000 posts in this forum I would already have learnt enough to open my own company under the umbrella of our Empire Group Alliance. And all you would have proven is your lack of substance you would continue to be angry, jealous and envious of other people's success where you have failed.[/b]
By the way, you know why you not RSD yet? Cause you waste too much time online - go and fight! Get more accounts! Cheat more!!! Lelong lelong!! -
u know... i have a theory...Originally posted by IamfromNTI:"Lian Jie", as far as I know, the REAL "Lian Jie" is still happily working at NTI building his personal network. You on the other hand, having abandoned your partner at NTI whom you promised to work together with hand in hand, are now in here as one of the faceless masses who only know how to point fingers and criticise.
could it be tht...
lian jie is suffering from schizophrenia! (hope i got tht word rite)
due to immense guilt and pressure he felt after dragging so many ppl tht he care abt into nti *gasp*
just a theory -
Scally IAMFROMNTI is LianJie??? Hmmm
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[quote] Pmed by soilder16
you sure you want to post so many messages of misrepresentation?
i hope you get your facts right before posting messages that's passing judgement. Thanks and rgds.
Cheers
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NTI says i been posting "messages of misrepresentation"
i totally blur...
dunno which part, help me point out hor, then i go correct them thanks. -
Misrepresent?
Geez, again, thats why big corporation use their resources to gag defractors and whistle blowers. So everytime i deals with nti, i must have videocam and other recording devices to record the happenings?
See what happened now to Doublecrossedagent and Sampanboi. You noe, u guys could threaten them on the sly, but its silly to present all this on the public forum.
Chinese have this saying...
Chi di wu yin san bai liang.....
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Please lar, joining for 2 months and giving up after a few phone calls does not mean you are from NTI ok, and furthermore there is nothing to twist. A spade is a spade, people who can make it will do so anywhere. People who can't make it will always blame everything and everyone else except themselves.Originally posted by ntisucks:hey, say me too leh? I also from NTI what - but I have worked hard, but left NOT because I did not earn money, but because of scammers like you who loves twisting words around to confuse people and strutting your arrogance.
By the way, you know why you not RSD yet? Cause you waste too much time online - go and fight! Get more accounts! Cheat more!!! Lelong lelong!!
If anything, some of the people in this forum are even more skillful than me, after all, they never seem to be wrong. If I log in to clear the air to explain things about my company, then people say we managers are very free and sit in office all day surfing internet. If I don't log in to clear the air then people say NTI managers scared, don't dare to come in and discuss.
All I can say is that you guys are very good at arguing for the sake of arguing.
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Originally posted by IamfromNTI:Please lar, joining for 2 months and giving up after a few phone calls does not mean you are from NTI ok, and furthermore there is nothing to twist. A spade is a spade, people who can make it will do so anywhere. People who can't make it will always blame everything and everyone else except themselves.
If anything, some of the people in this forum are even more skillful than me, after all, they never seem to be wrong. If I log in to clear the air to explain things about my company, then people say we managers are very free and sit in office all day surfing internet. If I don't log in to clear the air then people say NTI managers scared, don't dare to come in and discuss.
All I can say is that you guys are very good at arguing for the sake of arguing.
Contradiction....what do you mean by that statement? Thot the "uplines" are supposed to be very obliging to help their downlines to soar? To be an entrepeur?
Meaning to say that they whom did not see $$$ within months n complain are actualli losers n cannot make it??? Even with the helps from the "uplines"? -
Is that's true, then he should work harder to help those people who believed in him, instead of giving up the moment he meets difficulty. All those people who give up and complain that NTI is too difficult, scam, etc. You may have a problem with NTI but not with the NM industry right? So have all you guys found another reputable company with leaders to guide you to success to try again? If so, that all my blessings and encouragement to you. If not, then why are you spending so much time in here bellyaching about things?Originally posted by sampanboi:u know... i have a theory...
could it be tht...
lian jie is suffering from schizophrenia! (hope i got tht word rite)
due to immense guilt and pressure he felt after dragging so many ppl tht he care abt into nti *gasp*
just a theory
There are 3 types of people in this world. People who make things happen, people who watch things happen, and people who go, "what happened?"
Everybody I have ever recruited into NTI, even if some of them have given up on me or NTI, I also never give up on them. I continue to gain experience so that one day when they need their business accounts or another opportunity again, I can say to them, "here, I've kept your account for you all this time. Part of your network is already built for you."
I know NTI and people in NTI are not perfect, but instead of whining about things, I want to be someone who makes things happen in NTI, we can change, improve and become better. Because I have ownership of my own business in NTI and it's my responsibility, not James Phangs, not Garry, Desmond or Jackie's responsibility that I make it. Even if I don't make it in NTI, it's not because these people have not helped me, it's because of myself. And with this attitude, I can go to any company in Singapore and I will make it.
And how I developed this self belief? Through my experience in NTI.
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If you want to know who I am, very simple. Just send me a PM with your name and contact number and I will call you. doesn't mean I have to even try to change your mind about NTI, we can just make friends.Originally posted by ntisucks:Scally IAMFROMNTI is LianJie??? Hmmm -
I wish you would make up your mind about whether NTI is a big coporation or a small company. Have anybody from my company ever uttered a threatening word? All we are saying, in fact, in the latest issue of digital life, it is also stated that even bloggers or netizens should not assume that they are not liable for the things they post because if the things they post are deframatory to the reputation of any person or company they will be liable for the coresponding civil actions. In short, people should be responsible for what they say. Thats all.Originally posted by laurence82:Misrepresent?
Geez, again, thats why big corporation use their resources to gag defractors and whistle blowers. So everytime i deals with nti, i must have videocam and other recording devices to record the happenings?
See what happened now to Doublecrossedagent and Sampanboi. You noe, u guys could threaten them on the sly, but its silly to present all this on the public forum.
Chinese have this saying...
Chi di wu yin san bai liang..... -
Wah bro, you 24/7 online ar? got play mmorpg is it. then open one window on the forum alsoOriginally posted by dcx:
Contradiction....what do you mean by that statement? Thot the "uplines" are supposed to be very obliging to help their downlines to soar? To be an entrepeur?
Meaning to say that they whom did not see $$$ within months n complain are actualli losers n cannot make it??? Even with the helps from the "uplines"?
What I mean is that people who are willing to put in effort will have a good result no matter what NM company they join. What I can't stand are those people who are totally not willing to put in effort. If you never put in effort at all, how can you succeed? But instead of looking at themselves to see why they failed and how they can change, they choose to blame everyone and everything in my company and accuse us of scamming. -
hmm let's see.. he work harder and help the people under him to earn back the money they put in, which will probably mean helping them recruit some downline rite? (correct me if i am wrong)Originally posted by IamfromNTI:Is that's true, then he should work harder to help those people who believed in him, instead of giving up the moment he meets difficulty. All those people who give up and complain that NTI is too difficult, scam, etc. You may have a problem with NTI but not with the NM industry right? So have all you guys found another reputable company with leaders to guide you to success to try again? If so, that all my blessings and encouragement to you. If not, then why are you spending so much time in here bellyaching about things?
then wat happen's next is tht the people whom he had helped might now be feeling the way he felt, and hence if they follow wat u say, help the people below them to earn back their money.
and then same thing happen for the people below them, hence it becomes a vicious cycle
which in turn benefits the company with the continuous flow of new distributors
so it's all good(?)
PS: if this one u consider "messages of misrepresentation" then feel free to point out where i go wrong
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Big enuff compared to making threats to individuals.Originally posted by IamfromNTI:I wish you would make up your mind about whether NTI is a big coporation or a small company. Have anybody from my company ever uttered a threatening word? All we are saying, in fact, in the latest issue of digital life, it is also stated that even bloggers or netizens should not assume that they are not liable for the things they post because if the things they post are deframatory to the reputation of any person or company they will be liable for the coresponding civil actions. In short, people should be responsible for what they say. Thats all.
And by the way, read my post on NKF. Its company like yours who would make use of your resources, ie, financial resources to put gag order on people.
Talking abt responsibility, guess you havent read my post in corporate transparency, do you? Companies also have to be proven by external auditors and other reliable sources, when they wish to make claims that they are expanding overseas, top uplines making money yada yada. Dont go around showing cheques and expecting people to believe it. Personal income tax report are some of the tools recommended to prove that you earn what you claim.
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huh? wat tok u? simi mmorpg????Originally posted by IamfromNTI:Wah bro, you 24/7 online ar? got play mmorpg is it. then open one window on the forum also
What I mean is that people who are willing to put in effort will have a good result no matter what NM company they join. What I can't stand are those people who are totally not willing to put in effort. If you never put in effort at all, how can you succeed? But instead of looking at themselves to see why they failed and how they can change, they choose to blame everyone and everything in my company and accuse us of scamming.
Anyway...how you know they're not putting enough efforts and you're putting enough efforts?
So, are you trying to say that if they're putting alot of efforts, they'll succeed??? Woah....am i expecting to see LPS full of NTI agents sitting down n explaining to their clients abt their "products"? Sitting there drawing lines & circles......oh ya....btw, 10 out of 10 times i went to LPS for late supper, i nv failed to see NTI agents sitting down with their clients drawing circles & lines...never once i see any of them presenting their products.... -
dun think calling people bro will make them like you better. no one wants to be your brother in the first place. and hello, how you know i make a couple phone calls and give up? or when did i ever say i was in nti for just 2 months? again it just goes to show how nti agents love assuming things and then proving they are right - check out the way they write their messages and what they say about lifeOriginally posted by IamfromNTI:Wah bro, you 24/7 online ar? got play mmorpg is it. then open one window on the forum also
What I mean is that people who are willing to put in effort will have a good result no matter what NM company they join. What I can't stand are those people who are totally not willing to put in effort. If you never put in effort at all, how can you succeed? But instead of looking at themselves to see why they failed and how they can change, they choose to blame everyone and everything in my company and accuse us of scamming.
as if they are right and everyone else is wrong
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i think everyone should be made aware of this...
we all know for a fact that NTI are selling the products above market price, which is understandable, because nobody will sell products at a loss
all of us also know that NTI products are waayy overpriced, which is also understandable, because they want to earn profit rite
so care to guess how much they selling the products for? my guess WAS 2 times max
but...
recently i come across an astonishing fact...
they are actually selling the obsidian stuff at 3-4 TIMES OF THE RETAIL PRICE!!
NO, this is not another false claim to damage the reputation of NTI, this is fact i heard with my own ears. Yes, i heard the retail price with MY OWN EARS, and was stunned after calculating that the price is 3-4 times cheaper than NTI's
3-4 times... i mean wtf?! nti has 300% service charge?
as for the other products such as aromatherapy and facial things, i still do know the market price yet
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hMmmm... this is a veri weird thing.. which i dun understand... is it fun posting stuffs that does not improve ur life over here....?? i was so shocked to find so many people who has no life in here.. lol.
so many... thinking they are the "experts" in mlm... but instead i found so many poor little donkeys who dun understand a thing "ACTING" like they know everything. WOw.. u guys do MLM b4??
im very sure alot of ppl will get back at me for saying abt them. its ok. i understand. ppl with no life does all these. haha.. i happen to be free.. so dun bother abt me. i will not be replying to ur complains. you sick pricks wit low intelligence...
We have better things to do. One free advice.. stop posting funny stuffs that has no meaning. or pretending to save the world. u cant even help urself. are u paid to post all these btw?? LOL.. pricks.
Why cant people just do something for urselves?? if u are studying... go and study !! if u are a working.. go work.. if u have no life... wat the FUK u doing reading all these??? DO SOMETHING WITH UR LIFE !!!!
pls people. lets work together for a better future. these negative things are really crappy. it does nothing to improve our life. Continue... and pls by all means.... enjoy urselves... it gets u nowhere. You cant save the world infront of the computer screen. stand out. go on a strike. save the world... immature geniuses...
btw.. you guys sound so gay.. whinning abt stuffs u cant acheive. complain this and that. haha... ur life should be in quite a big mess. see... now u have something better to do. LOL... pricks.. -
Originally posted by ImNotAFailureLikeU:hMmmm... this is a veri weird thing.. which i dun understand... is it fun posting stuffs that does not improve ur life over here....?? i was so shocked to find so many people who has no life in here.. lol.
so many... thinking they are the "experts" in mlm... but instead i found so many poor little donkeys who dun understand a thing "ACTING" like they know everything. WOw.. u guys do MLM b4??
>>>U've a problem with that???
im very sure alot of ppl will get back at me for saying abt them. its ok. i understand. ppl with no life does all these. haha.. i happen to be free.. so dun bother abt me. i will not be replying to ur complains. you sick pricks wit low intelligence...
>>>You muz be an intelligent creature... We have better things to do.
One free advice.. stop posting funny stuffs that has no meaning. or pretending to save the world. u cant even help urself. are u paid to post all these btw?? LOL.. pricks.
>>>One free reply to your advice, stop assuming....
Why cant people just do something for urselves?? if u are studying... go and study !! if u are a working.. go work.. if u have no life... wat the FUK u doing reading all these??? DO SOMETHING WITH UR LIFE !!!!
>>>U're teaching us to get a life? Btw, why the FUK are you saying all these???
pls people. lets work together for a better future. these negative things are really crappy. it does nothing to improve our life. Continue... and pls by all means.... enjoy urselves... it gets u nowhere. You cant save the world infront of the computer screen. stand out. go on a strike. save the world... immature geniuses...
>>>U muz be a damn mature genius n a saviour to the world...btw, are you going to save us????
btw.. you guys sound so gay.. whinning abt stuffs u cant acheive. complain this and that. haha... ur life should be in quite a big mess. see... now u have something better to do. LOL... pricks..
>>>hahaha...gay? Have you check the dictionary on what "gay" means??? Pls do... oh ya...mind to share what you've achieve?? II (Inteligent Idiot) -
Actually, its silly by posting these. You are basically destroying yourself. You got rich becos of these people. The way you rant on, you mean you can separate mlmers and non mlmers, and then earn by yourself?
I mean, some of the posts by people who whine that people whine in this forum are really entertaining. Usually they can defend themselves by doing character assasination of that particular person, or make some statements that are pretty illogical.
You earn becos you can recruit non mlmers in, and leverage on their effort too, that make up the fundamentals of MLM, then you start to rail against non mlmers who refuse to. That is basically destroying your income potential, isnt it?
Your success or failure depends on the effort of yours, plus income stream from your downlines and customers. You cant just separate yourself from others and expect to be successful.