NTI-PARIS
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You are one of the lucky ones who did research and found out information before joining. Lucky, you saved tons of money and anguish. They will continue to pester you so be careful.
Courses must be accredited. Where is their course accrediation and from who? -
Hi guys, I'm back (did you miss me wei li?, Sorry i spoilt your habitual day of unproductive argumentive flaming..
)(now i'm back flame me!)
Lol ok that was retarded
NTI has started its new plan this week, most if not all the leaders are so excited about doing more and earning less with this new business plan.
Expected income of leaders to drop by more than half as what they have produced almost if not more than half will be flushed off by the Plan.
Intelligent is what we can say about the NTI leaders, i bet they will go far... yes very very far...
HAHA Jackie and JP must be enjoying theirselves now less payout more money for them! hahaha -
tell us more about the plan
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actually NTI is empire group, abt the same thing. they have a couple of offices ard. selling aroma therapy and lumimi. that's all i know.
using binary system.
needs quite alot of effort. as the first one can earn the most money. needs balancing -
haha the new plan is, Whenever you balance up or earn just a mere 100 us whatever sales could be 10000 worth of sales would be flushed/Absorbed by the company... darn stupid eh?
James must be too greedy i guess... -
how they promote
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That is how Jackie and JP maintain their cars (BMW and Merc).Originally posted by N00dle:Hi guys, I'm back (did you miss me wei li?, Sorry i spoilt your habitual day of unproductive argumentive flaming.. )(now i'm back flame me!)
Lol ok that was retarded
NTI has started its new plan this week, most if not all the leaders are so excited about doing more and earning less with this new business plan.
Expected income of leaders to drop by more than half as what they have produced almost if not more than half will be flushed off by the Plan.
Intelligent is what we can say about the NTI leaders, i bet they will go far... yes very very far...
HAHA Jackie and JP must be enjoying theirselves now less payout more money for them! hahaha -
Thats not what i heard from my fren, i thought they are using the bm and sm plan ?Originally posted by N00dle:haha the new plan is, Whenever you balance up or earn just a mere 100 us whatever sales could be 10000 worth of sales would be flushed/Absorbed by the company... darn stupid eh?
James must be too greedy i guess... -
Yup the Bronze and Silver merchant plan,Originally posted by LegacyMan:Thats not what i heard from my fren, i thought they are using the bm and sm plan ?
When you close a silver merchant the payout is supposed to be 150us, but the company capped the max earning a day is 100US, so no need to pay out the 50 us.
Quite stupid if the agents there all close SMs.. haha
What for do extra work, spend more time and saliva to make the prospect come out the extra money but not earning it.. hahah stupid! -
they are too much
worst than I thought it would be, heard about it but never expected that they actually really did it 
shame on you! JH and JP! -
i just went down just now. 2.5 hours . after 1 hour, i gave a v bad attitude la. i was hmm ah orh ok. then when the pitcher left, i asked my friend can i go now? end up she damn angry with me for giving such a bad attitude. haha.
but seriously i think their courses are quite good. provided they really do what they say la... seriously considering joining them...
first he say NTI education center. previously some sales companny become education center then in the future become IT powerhouse and exclusive distribtutor?
the pitcher said they going to have exclusive distribution rights for ntuc link point, what movie passes, etc etc.
and somemore singapore become what wireless nation in the future. and that NTI will be a part of it.
i was like WTF? mlm become IT powerhouse? then Singtel can close down?
i was thinking, if everyone becomes a partner, then who are the clients?
why they only have youngsters? MD is a 27yo man? most managers less than 25yo? partners 20 and below?
sec school kids wearing formal? why this education center got what competition that has cash prizes. true that it will fire up motivation but quite weird leh. unconventional i suppose. but i was looking at their certs, i wonder are those certs from UK la washington authentic anot. for a company that targets youngsters, they sure seem to expand super fast.
i havent seen another company expand so fast since the IT boom. their education courses, they say recognized by gov(MOE), but i havent seen any cert that says so. i wonder if i can call MOE and make an enquiry anot. besides are they even licenced to give education courses? because seems to me like they are bao ka liao, everything also chup company. which makes things a lot more complicated. -
+1Originally posted by KILL SCBC:they are too much worst than I thought it would be, heard about it but never expected that they actually really did it shame on you! JH and JP! -
Would you be able to repeat this in person? I need someone like you to be a witness.Originally posted by bladez87:i just went down just now. 2.5 hours . after 1 hour, i gave a v bad attitude la. i was hmm ah orh ok. then when the pitcher left, i asked my friend can i go now? end up she damn angry with me for giving such a bad attitude. haha.
but seriously i think their courses are quite good. provided they really do what they say la... seriously considering joining them...
first he say NTI education center. previously some sales companny become education center then in the future become IT powerhouse and exclusive distribtutor?
the pitcher said they going to have exclusive distribution rights for ntuc link point, what movie passes, etc etc.
and somemore singapore become what wireless nation in the future. and that NTI will be a part of it.
i was like WTF? mlm become IT powerhouse? then Singtel can close down?
i was thinking, if everyone becomes a partner, then who are the clients?
why they only have youngsters? MD is a 27yo man? most managers less than 25yo? partners 20 and below?
sec school kids wearing formal? why this education center got what competition that has cash prizes. true that it will fire up motivation but quite weird leh. unconventional i suppose. but i was looking at their certs, i wonder are those certs from UK la washington authentic anot. for a company that targets youngsters, they sure seem to expand super fast.
i havent seen another company expand so fast since the IT boom. their education courses, they say recognized by gov(MOE), but i havent seen any cert that says so. i wonder if i can call MOE and make an enquiry anot. besides are they even licenced to give education courses? because seems to me like they are bao ka liao, everything also chup company. which makes things a lot more complicated. -
repeat for wat???
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As in make an official statement of what representations they made to you regarding the functions and reach of the company.
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yup, perhaps you could name the sec sch kids?
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I heard that the cap is to prevent the company from over payout, but to cover this they have another plan which pay 100usd for 2 sm on left and 2 sm on right.Originally posted by N00dle:Yup the Bronze and Silver merchant plan,
When you close a silver merchant the payout is supposed to be 150us, but the company capped the max earning a day is 100US, so no need to pay out the 50 us.
Quite stupid if the agents there all close SMs.. haha
What for do extra work, spend more time and saliva to make the prospect come out the extra money but not earning it.. hahah stupid! -
me, 3 years ago.Originally posted by N00dle:yup, perhaps you could name the sec sch kids? -
Don't quote me i may be wrong,Originally posted by LegacyMan:I heard that the cap is to prevent the company from over payout, but to cover this they have another plan which pay 100usd for 2 sm on left and 2 sm on right.
The another plan you are talking about is:
Having 1 downline on left and right, each accumulating at least 2 SM on both of each leg.
Requires a little over 6000US worth of sales to earn the 100US
Good plan, Good deal indeed
Heard something like that...
And don't forget along the way you won't get the 6000US commision you should have given because of the cap in the first plan.. haha.. -
Hello guys, first timer here. I am posting to seek opinions in dealing with nti but let me give you some backgrd info first.
I was asked by a fren to go down for some "entreprenership sharing" session this july. Turned up to be a recruiting session and i opened a bronze acct on the spot(pressured). I had no prior knowledge of mlm and nti then. Had i known it enjoy such a negative rep here...
Apparently, nti is restructuring itself to focus on a new investment plan and establishing itself as a provider of education. Under this restructuring taking effect in august, "old" members like me have their BC replaced with an education package priced over 1k SGD. The deal is that members are not allowed to recruit/develop a network unless they have finished the education package and is cleared by a BRM.
From what i have gather in the forum, refunding is pretty much a lost clause. I am personally inclined that nti operations are not so "transparent" and i have no wish to be an integral part of nti. I need advice on 3 apsects:
1) I am contemplating to finish up the education package to pick up sth then say goodbye to nti forever. Get my money value back. However, i am afraid of incurring additonal charges and involvement in nti. Should i forego my money and just cut ties completely?
2) I do not wish to lost my fren who i have deep respect for. Should i get him to read the forum or leave him as it is? He joined this may but is quite a stoic follower...
3) Anybody was in the old nti courses/training before? Were they of any use/value?( Both negative n positive examples are welcomed) This would faciliate me in making a decision in apsect 1. Lastly, any particular individual/ scheme/ pothole i should be on the watchout for?
To pple who have spend their time reading my post, i would like to say a big thank you.All comments, questions and suggesitons are welcomed.( Senseless flaming is an exception). -
Dear owner of an overused nick, my replies are in blue.
Hello guys, first timer here. I am posting to seek opinions in dealing with nti but let me give you some backgrd info first.
I was asked by a fren to go down for some "entreprenership sharing" session this july. Turned up to be a recruiting session and i opened a bronze acct on the spot(pressured). I had no prior knowledge of mlm and nti then. Had i known it enjoy such a negative rep here...
Apparently, nti is restructuring itself to focus on a new investment plan and establishing itself as a provider of education. Under this restructuring taking effect in august, "old" members like me have their BC replaced with an education package priced over 1k SGD. The deal is that members are not allowed to recruit/develop a network unless they have finished the education package and is cleared by a BRM.
From what i have gather in the forum, refunding is pretty much a lost clause. I am personally inclined that nti operations are not so "transparent" and i have no wish to be an integral part of nti. I need advice on 3 apsects:
1) I am contemplating to finish up the education package to pick up sth then say goodbye to nti forever. Get my money value back. However, i am afraid of incurring additonal charges and involvement in nti. Should i forego my money and just cut ties completely?
I pity you. It seems to me that you have not learnt anything from NTI yet- still the little boy that your mama knew.
I cannot comprehend your fear of incurring additional charges and involvement in NTI. At NTI, we seek to provide you with high quality education- skills that you can never hope to learn from any of your geeky school textbooks. Most of our excellent training programmes are included in the education package that you have signed up for. However, some of our best ones come with additional costs- which I assure you, are reasonable- in order to maintain the quality of the courses. The skills that you will learn from these courses will benefit you throughout your life, and reap you profits many times the cost of the course. You will remember this as the best decision that you have ever made in your life. Don't you want to change your life? Rather than attending seminars by Donald Trump and the like (which you apparently are not sophisticated enough to benefit from), we are offering you with a very affordable and viable way to improve yourself.
Otherwise if you still are not convinced, or think that our premium courses are not applicable to you, you can simply attend only the courses already included in your education package though you will be missing out a lot. But still, there is no cause for fear in incurring additional charges right? Surely you are capable of turning people down if what they are offering do not appeal to you, I hope.
2) I do not wish to lost my fren who i have deep respect for. Should i get him to read the forum or leave him as it is? He joined this may but is quite a stoic follower...
I disagree with your description of your friend as a “stoic” follower. At NTI, we are all highly motivated individuals who seek to make the best of our lives. Your friend is very wise in choosing NTI, but you on the other hand, are the indifferent one. As observed from your forum post above, you seem to lack self-confidence but refuse to let NTI help you. You fear too much. Please seek help even if you decide to quit NTI eventually.
Anyway, by all means, get your friend to read the forum. I am sure that he will further enlighten you as to why all the malicious comments written about NTI Paris are bullshit.
3) Anybody was in the old nti courses/training before? Were they of any use/value?( Both negative n positive examples are welcomed) This would faciliate me in making a decision in apsect 1. Lastly, any particular individual/ scheme/ pothole i should be on the watchout for?
I can fill up several pages about the value and usefulness of NTI training but it would be futile since you appear to have already made up your mind about NTI. All you want is for other forum users to echo your opinion that NTI is “evil” because you perceive that this will make you feel better. Also, you apparently have a closed mind, but still "ask for advice" so that if anything goes wrong, it will not be your fault.
I think it is best that you attend the courses and find out for yourself the benefits since you have already paid for it. Hopefully, it will also correct some of the major flaws that you currently manifest because no amount of reading of self-improvement guides in your closet can substitute for the training provided by NTI.
To pple who have spend their time reading my post, i would like to say a big thank you.All comments, questions and suggesitons are welcomed.( Senseless flaming is an exception).
Cheers
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Are you speaking officially on behalf of the company? If so could you identify yourself?
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Dear NTI RULEZ,
I would like to thank you for spending your time reading my post in detail n spontaneously responding to it. It is always good to hear both side of the dicussion so that a more informed decision is arrived.
Personally, i bear no grudges against you and have no clue of your identity.However,i do feel an obligation to respond to your post since it was directed to me. I believe this is basic communicaiton courtesy akin to how pple are expected to establish a 2 way communicaiton in a conversation.
So, let go through your points one by one.Your post are in bold.
1)Dear owner of an overused nick, my replies are in blue.
I believe that every individual should be treated with respect, especially when we do not hold personal grudges nor connections/relations. I think you would accredit yourself better not to start off an conversaiton by pinpointing at my username with the term "overused". It is akin to making fun/insulting a person birthname,an act void of basic courtesy and respect for an individual.Furthermore, i believe my nickname does not come as offensive since it does not constitute of pronfanities neither does it target any particular organization/grp/race/individual.
2)I pity you. It seems to me that you have not learnt anything from NTI yet- still the little boy that your mama knew.
Once again, your post is void of basic manners and respect for an individual. While it may be true that i have not learn anything from nti, it is not right to labelled me as little boy nor bring my mum into this subject. She is an innocent third party.
3)I cannot comprehend your fear of incurring additional charges and involvement in NTI. At NTI, we seek to provide you with high quality education- skills that you can never hope to learn from any of your geeky school textbooks.
Fear is a very personal issue. Some pple fear roaches while some have a phobia of swimming. I think that it is only normal to have doubts abt sth that has been given a bad rep. Also, formal education integrate us into society by providing us with knowledge and skills such as basic linguistics and writting. Pls do not undermine its importance by dimissing school textbks as geeky. We should be more appreciative of what formal educaiton has given us. Even Robert Kiyosaki agreed in his bks that it is impt in life to get a formal education.
4) The skills that you will learn from these courses will benefit you throughout your life, and reap you profits many times the cost of the course. You will remember this as the best decision that you have ever made in your life.
While it is gd to see that you have much confidence in the quality of nti courses. The value that one can reap out of learning differs from individual to individual. It is a huge ASSUMPTION to claim that attending nti courses would be the best decision made in my life.
5)Don't you want to change your life? Rather than attending seminars by Donald Trump and the like (which you apparently are not sophisticated enough to benefit from), we are offering you with a very affordable and viable way to improve yourself.
Once again, an personal attack on me claiming that i am not sophisticated.
6)As observed from your forum post above, you seem to lack self-confidence but refuse to let NTI help you. You fear too much. Please seek help even if you decide to quit NTI eventually.
Accurate observation. I am a person who do really fear too much and is low on self confidence. I thank you for giving me sound advice here. I do need to build up on my confidence level.
7)I can fill up several pages about the value and usefulness of NTI training but it would be futile since you appear to have already made up your mind about NTI.
If you can really provide us with solid evidence on the usefulness of NTI training, pls seriously do so. I believe it would be very helpful in clearing up the negative connotations that associate with nti here. This would serve nti well in the long run too as new pple that come to this forum would at least get alternative exposure to nti operations/success backed by hard evidence. They would be able to make more informed decision regarding nti.
Hopefully, it will also correct some of the major flaws that you currently manifest because no amount of reading of self-improvement guides in your closet can substitute for the training provided by NTI.
I would appreciate it very much if you spell out my major flaws in specific terms instead of making such a general comment. Also, reading self-improvement guides only reflect that i have a desire to improve n learn. My takeaway from these guides depend on my own learning curve and practical applicaiton frequency.
Once again, gd to see that you all have confidence in the course quality. You can highlight nti strengths further by telling us where is nti superior compared to self-improvement guides using specific examples.
To pple who have spend their time reading my post, i would like to say a big thank you.All comments, questions and suggesitons are welcomed.( Senseless flaming is an exception).Good Day. -
Eikei, may i know who were you directing your question to? Anyway, you seem to have quite a fair bit of knowledge of mlm and it history. Can i request that you share knowledge of NOP and its leaders? I cannot find much info on the net. Thks.
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I heard many SWISS CASH leaders came from NTI....
This is the outcome of all this training of NTI...
Although all these SWISS CASH leaders claimed to be millionaires and are driving porsche and BMs, but they are all down-right, despicable and totally immoral.... cheating people hard-earned money with fabulous sales talk and lies about their swiss mutual funds. I doubt they even can return SWISS ROLLS...
I don't know much about MLM but I do know that I can't trust people who will do anything for $$$.
I HATE SWISS CASH and ALL BAD MLMS!!!!