NTI-PARIS
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this is the nti thread kindly arrange your post
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wah... this comment so killer! I think don't be so worked up. Not too good for our own health. And let's not be too hard... very bad for own karma....Originally posted by dong dong mau:With or withour anything, the Phang families should be killed!!! -
Talk about karma pls go Buddhism forumOriginally posted by helpdesk^^:wah... this comment so killer! I think don't be so worked up. Not too good for our own health. And let's not be too hard... very bad for own karma.... -
Securities Commission, Malaysia
http://www.sc.com.my/
Below is the list of known companies and websites which are not authorized nor approved under the securities laws to deal in securities. The public are advised not to make any investment with companies that are not licensed or approved by the SC.
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* Al-Arabic Fund (www.al-arabic.com)
* ABB Fund (www.abbfund.com)
* Artemis Wealth Management
* Asia Wallet/ASWtrader/Splitindex Inc (www.splitindex.com)
* AM Global Management (www.nypoe.com)
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* BHG e-investment (www.bhg-corp.com)
* Bidvask Investment Ltd (www.bidvask.com)
* Buy-e-barrel (www.buyebarrel.com)
* Brentwood Trust Company (www.brentwoodtrust.com)
* Belton Market (www.beltonmarkets.com)
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* Cambridge Capital Trading
(www.cambridgecapitaltrading.com, www.dubaiex.com) * (Press Release)
* Capital Enhancement Club/ CEC
* CB.IRAQ
* Capital Glory Holdings Ltd
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* Data Saham (www.datasaham.com)
* Dragon Gold Sdn Bhd / Dr Iain Gray
* Duit Wayang
* Dana Futures (www.danafutures.com)
* Dana Modal (www.angelfire.com/journal2/danamodal)
* Debenture Petal Trust
E
* E-suisse Fund (www.esuissefund.com)
* Euro America Index (www.eaindex.com)
* E-Barrel (www.ebarrel.com)
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* GC Group Asset Management
* Good Credit Asset Management
* Gold Quest/ Quest International (www.goldquest.com)
* Goldmill Wagner Ltd / GA Worldwide (www.goldmillwagner.com)
* Global Investment Network System (http://ginsystem.com)
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* Hibah Funds
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* IPC Shopping Services Sdn Bhd (www.ipcshopping.com)
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* Jai Network Sdn Bhd
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* Lexworth Prestige
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* Mercury Acquisition Associates (www.mercuryacquisitionassociates.com)
* Montego Finance & Securities Berhad (www.montegofs.official.ws)
* My Dinar (www.mydinar.net)
* Matrix cash
* Mind-X Solutions Sdn Bhd (www.beltonmarkets.com)
* My Share (www.myshare2u.com)
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* Oregon Invest (www.oregoninvest.com)
* Ocean Balance Ltd
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* Pure Investor / PIPS (www.pureinvestor.com, www.gopips.com)
* Prowealth Solutions (www.prowealthsolutions.com)
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* Quest International (www.goldquest.com)
* Quest (www.quest.net)
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Remisier (www.remisier.com)
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* Sunshine Empire (www.sunshine-empire.com)
* Swiss Mutual Fund (www.swisscash.com, www.swisscash.biz) *(Press Release)
* Sweden Fund (www.swedenfund.com)
* Solid Group (www.solidworldwide.org)
* Solid Investment (www.solidinvestment.com)
* Smartcash (www.smartcash.com)
* Sime Securities (www.simesecurities.net)
* Starr-Bradley Associates Inc (www.starrbradleyinc.com)
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* Tian Ping (www.tianping2u.com)
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* UeBond (www.uebond.com)
* United Capital Management Inc (www.brentwoodtrust.com)
* Universe Asset Management Inc / Tony So
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*Whitman Pearce & Partners (www.whitmanpearce.com)
Alpha Numeric
* www.32505.com
* 3A Consulting Group Sdn Bhd -
Dear Blue_jamzz,Originally posted by Blue_jamzz:Hi Fallen,
maybe you can share with everybody here what you have found?? Cos I already have that copy of ACRA which is gotten by paying and have been showing it to anybody I talk to. So I don't understand where the problem is? Either maybe you can enlighten me? Or vice verus.
Why not just post here to everybody what you exatly found on the web? Instead of wasting time showing to one person at a time, if shown here I think more people will get to know faster
Anyway "Save your explaination" is not really a good way to shove away all that information I just shared. Maybe we can have a nice forum talk base on what we know then to just "Save my explaination"? I'm standing pretty neutral here cos if there is something which you can convince me then I'll stand by your facts.
Cheers~!
Since you already have the copy of the ACRA report, why don't you show it to everyone? I believe there are two sets, one showing ownership of shares and the directors and registration details (Instant Information) and the other one showing profits for the past few years known as Strategic Information. Have you purchased both and taken a look?
If you would like to "have a nice forum talk base" (sic) then perhaps you can share your information here and show how "neutral" you are instead of reiterating what many of your seniors in the "buisness" have been posting here all these years.
(P.S. Your posts have been misguided and incoherently MLMish enough to wake me up for my posting haitus) -
Hi Eikei, cool it... I haven't even spoke to you and you are being so hostile already.. to show my sincerity.. below is what you ask for.Originally posted by Eikei:Dear Blue_jamzz,
Since you already have the copy of the ACRA report, why don't you show it to everyone? I believe there are two sets, one showing ownership of shares and the directors and registration details (Instant Information) and the other one showing profits for the past few years known as Strategic Information. Have you purchased both and taken a look?
If you would like to "have a nice forum talk base" (sic) then perhaps you can share your information here and show how "neutral" you are instead of reiterating what many of your seniors in the "buisness" have been posting here all these years.
(P.S. Your posts have been misguided and incoherently MLMish enough to wake me up for my posting haitus)
Please see here http://www.trizzard.com/EMCOM/Files/emcomroc.pdf for the copy of the ACRA that I have on hand. Together with some of the licenese from Taiwan.
I have spent hours reading through all the post about NTI in this topic and I am not denying of what they are. In fact one of my cousin use to be in NOP and I know how they were like. Hence I did not join them in the past. Neither do I agree with how some of the people in NTI works to get youngster to join through some means of "not so nice" method IMHO. In fact i just heard a guy from the same company, but belong to the NTI group talking like that to a young prospect recently. And I am disgusted. But being personally in the company, Sunshine Empire, not NTI, and knowing the people there, let me learnt that the company has its black sheeps... but not all are black. There are many good sheeps around like the group i'm with.
Anyway just for your updates.. Emcom has just came up with this Emcall callback service and I am lucky enough to personally experinece it! Its only given to the leaders for trial till May before officially launching... another new development from Emcom
(P.S: What's wrong with my post being MLMish? Aren't this forum talking about MLM and network marketing? Unless you are bias against it? And please let me know how are my posts misguided so that I can reflect and correct myself. Perhaps apologise if I have geniuenely mislead all the forumers here)
Cheers~! ^_^ -
Dear all, I'm not surprise to see our company being listed as the way many of our distributor brings across the product to people, and perhaps one of the "seceret agent" of SC, that it is an investment project. But that is not how Sunshine works. They money you put in is to buy our Mall points, not invest. When you buy our Mall points, then the company is free to use your money to do whatever kind of investments they want. We have being questioned by officials from SC and MAS before and nothing has happened because our business model is not illegal! I know people is going to ask how am I going to prove that we have being questioned... if you ask me.. i seriously dunno how to show you the proof unless someone has friends in these departments.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Securities Commission, Malaysia
http://www.sc.com.my/
Below is the list of known companies and websites which are not authorized nor approved under the securities laws to deal in securities. The public are advised not to make any investment with companies that are not licensed or approved by the SC.
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* Al-Arabic Fund (www.al-arabic.com)
* ABB Fund (www.abbfund.com)
* Artemis Wealth Management
* Asia Wallet/ASWtrader/Splitindex Inc (www.splitindex.com)
* AM Global Management (www.nypoe.com)
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* BHG e-investment (www.bhg-corp.com)
* Bidvask Investment Ltd (www.bidvask.com)
* Buy-e-barrel (www.buyebarrel.com)
* Brentwood Trust Company (www.brentwoodtrust.com)
* Belton Market (www.beltonmarkets.com)
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* Cambridge Capital Trading
(www.cambridgecapitaltrading.com, www.dubaiex.com) * (Press Release)
* Capital Enhancement Club/ CEC
* CB.IRAQ
* Capital Glory Holdings Ltd
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* Data Saham (www.datasaham.com)
* Dragon Gold Sdn Bhd / Dr Iain Gray
* Duit Wayang
* Dana Futures (www.danafutures.com)
* Dana Modal (www.angelfire.com/journal2/danamodal)
* Debenture Petal Trust
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* E-suisse Fund (www.esuissefund.com)
* Euro America Index (www.eaindex.com)
* E-Barrel (www.ebarrel.com)
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* GC Group Asset Management
* Good Credit Asset Management
* Gold Quest/ Quest International (www.goldquest.com)
* Goldmill Wagner Ltd / GA Worldwide (www.goldmillwagner.com)
* Global Investment Network System (http://ginsystem.com)
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* Hibah Funds
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* IPC Shopping Services Sdn Bhd (www.ipcshopping.com)
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* Jai Network Sdn Bhd
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* Lexworth Prestige
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* Mercury Acquisition Associates (www.mercuryacquisitionassociates.com)
* Montego Finance & Securities Berhad (www.montegofs.official.ws)
* My Dinar (www.mydinar.net)
* Matrix cash
* Mind-X Solutions Sdn Bhd (www.beltonmarkets.com)
* My Share (www.myshare2u.com)
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* Oregon Invest (www.oregoninvest.com)
* Ocean Balance Ltd
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* Pure Investor / PIPS (www.pureinvestor.com, www.gopips.com)
* Prowealth Solutions (www.prowealthsolutions.com)
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* Quest International (www.goldquest.com)
* Quest (www.quest.net)
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Remisier (www.remisier.com)
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* Sunshine Empire (www.sunshine-empire.com)
* Swiss Mutual Fund (www.swisscash.com, www.swisscash.biz) *(Press Release)
* Sweden Fund (www.swedenfund.com)
* Solid Group (www.solidworldwide.org)
* Solid Investment (www.solidinvestment.com)
* Smartcash (www.smartcash.com)
* Sime Securities (www.simesecurities.net)
* Starr-Bradley Associates Inc (www.starrbradleyinc.com)
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* Tian Ping (www.tianping2u.com)
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* UeBond (www.uebond.com)
* United Capital Management Inc (www.brentwoodtrust.com)
* Universe Asset Management Inc / Tony So
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*Whitman Pearce & Partners (www.whitmanpearce.com)
Alpha Numeric
* www.32505.com
* 3A Consulting Group Sdn Bhd
And for god sake, I have just tried to access 80% of the websites listed above and what a joke! Either they are gone... or they are a truely invesment money game website, or a network marketing webpage from overseas talking about ways to make you earn money and no product. Please someone please go and try out all websites above and let me know which website is like SUNSHINE EMPIRE, who has a proper webpage, with physical offices address in Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Taiwan, etc etc.. for the SC and MAS people to visit somemore.. easy to find us.
And if we really are doing something illegal, don't you think something should have already happen to us by now? Since we are doing it so publicly, then I guess we would have easily being checked and folded up if there were something wrong with us. Again, some ppl is going to say this is not a good point to fight as it is viewed from another angle. Hence I think readers here, please make your own perception. -
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/167644.asp
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i joined nti last yr ard june.. den i wanted to quit fr it n refund bk my money after abt 1mth at most..den dey keep drag n drag till nw dey said bcos its mre than 3mths i cant get bk.. dey keep chge wat dey said.. dey even mention arrangin a interview for me to gt bk my refund but alr so long but totali no news.. so wat shld i do nw? cant possibly cont wait for nth..
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You know, the cure for all this talk is really a good dose of MLM fanatics. You get that alternative and you'll never put the society together again: Humpty Dumpty cannot be put together again... and your $ will disappear, your circle of friends will be worth a fraction of what it is, your reputation will be in peril, your future will be at risk and our workers will become workers in other people's countries, foreign workers.
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In Singapore, the people still cannot accept network marketing as a form of business. This is due to the fact that network marketing has a troubled past and its business model can easily be manipulated by people with bad intention. About 30-40 years ago, most people in Singapore also thought that insurance and franchise are also scams. This is also because of the bad image being portrayed by those con men. Today insurance and franchise are accepted as well as being popular with Singaporeans. This is because of regulations as well as education by the authorities. I believe in about 20 years time, mlm will be accepted as another form of business after the authorities have cleared the grey areas.
MLM is already part and parcel of the American society. As of NTI Paris, all I can say is that what they are doing is not deemed ethical by top network marketers in the US. In US, people openly tell their friends that they are in MLM to sell products. They have nothing to hide unlike NTI Paris which use underhand tactics to lure people to come and then hard-sell them. For a true understanding of network marketing, I recommend you guys to read Network Marketing for Dummies by Zig Ziglar.
By the way, how do you make the links in your website click able? Thanks. -
Hi Guys, I got something to tell you guys. I saw my friend's photo at the emcom website. I was shocked to see the picture because this sec school friend of mine once show me her ad pic (the same as that was shown at emcom site) before. She was a model and was advertising for a US firm. Shocked to see her picture being ripped by NTI to be used in emcom site to show elegant and class.
Check under the about us section of the main site. You will see an asian girl in formal attire. -
probably the model agency sold the rights of her pictures to some image library.....Originally posted by lionsault:Hi Guys, I got something to tell you guys. I saw my friend's photo at the emcom website. I was shocked to see the picture because this sec school friend of mine once show me her ad pic (the same as that was shown at emcom site) before. She was a model and was advertising for a US firm. Shocked to see her picture being ripped by NTI to be used in emcom site to show elegant and class.
Check under the about us section of the main site. You will see an asian girl in formal attire. -
best is inform your friend and her agency
fyi, sgforum got sued successfully two years ago because someone put some models' pics on the sggirls site -
you mean the Mods or just anyhow members post pics? so what happend then? Just curious as I have not much knowledge of IP...Originally posted by laurence82:best is inform your friend and her agency
fyi, sgforum got sued successfully two years ago because someone put some models' pics on the sggirls site -
members posted, but owner got suedOriginally posted by helpdesk^^:you mean the Mods or just anyhow members post pics? so what happend then? Just curious as I have not much knowledge of IP...
internet laws pretty murky, especially across international borders, so after this incident owner moved company to UK
u can see right at the bottom, any page u go to, the company is now Jeyel Media (Uk) Limited -
hee hee.... now i see... works better for jason anyway...Originally posted by laurence82:members posted, but owner got sued
internet laws pretty murky, especially across international borders, so after this incident owner moved company to UK
u can see right at the bottom, any page u go to, the company is now Jeyel Media (Uk) Limited
but in the UK, they don't practise IP laws of protection?
--- BTW, so sorry to hijack this thread as I am interested to understand this a little more...
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err IP meaning?Originally posted by helpdesk^^:hee hee.... now i see... works better for jason anyway...
but in the UK, they don't practise IP laws of protection?
--- BTW, so sorry to hijack this thread as I am interested to understand this a little more...
THANKS.
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Latest news update!!
Sunshine Empire is being checked by banks and they are uable to clear any cheque at this moment. They can only request for cash payment from new members.
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in Singapore or Malaysia?Originally posted by truth678:Latest news update!!
Sunshine Empire is being checked by banks and they are uable to clear any cheque at this moment. They can only request for cash payment from new members.
Anyone can verify on this??
and where u heard this from?
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well, okay, than i'll go down the company again via another agent to see their mode of collection to verify if it's singapore or malaysia.Originally posted by truth678:Latest news update!!
Sunshine Empire is being checked by banks and they are uable to clear any cheque at this moment. They can only request for cash payment from new members.
Anyone can verify on this??
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Originally posted by truth678:Latest news update!!
Sunshine Empire is being checked by banks and they are uable to clear any cheque at this moment. They can only request for cash payment from new members.
Anyone can verify on this??
not true
nothing of this sort!
stop all your 'news update' -
how cum u know its not true?Originally posted by jonalim: not true
nothing of this sort!
stop all your 'news update'
i have a couple of secondary sch frends doing EMCOM.... -
go get someone to verify la!
easy