Bel' Air
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Hello hello... please open your eyes "BIG BIG" this thread is Bel'air. All the LB crabs, move a side & back to their thread.
Savedsoul, your dixk must be very "poor" , a few hundred dollars of "hue fei" also wan to eat. He is driving a continental car one (if i'm not wrong but don know still there are not). See another proof of "Showing off" dixk but not $$$ or "Caring DIXK" who sucks all his downlines $$$$ to support himself
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its more than you think
http://www.brandmalaysia.com/movabletype/archives/2006/04/lampe_berger_a.html#more
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=256356
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/showthread.php?t=8407
http://www.meshio.com/index.php/2005/09/get-rich-quickies/
http://joshuateoh.com/blog/?p=296
http://www.maddruid.com/2006/04/761-of-reason-why-this-lampe-berger.html
http://www.box-one.org/new-2517455-4557.html
for the big news, this is newspaper compilation of LB and its scam
http://www.rightwaystogetrich.com/LBnews.pdf
but as i am free says, reserve this spot for Bel Air -
Well, we should promote about this thread to every where even to Johor Bahru,
BELAIR and LAMPA BURGER are scam.. -
Yap, We should continue to expose all the BA scams & any forumers wants to share, you are welcome.Originally posted by remychan:Well, we should promote about this thread to every where even to Johor Bahru,
BELAIR and LAMPA BURGER are scam..
As for LB, i have no comment becos has noting good to comment
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I guess that's their way of making money from all those who joined. U know they can easily make about:Originally posted by VeryFree1:Hello hello... please open your eyes "BIG BIG" this thread is Bel'air. All the LB crabs, move a side & back to their thread.
Savedsoul, your dixk must be very "poor" , a few hundred dollars of "hue fei" also wan to eat. He is driving a continental car one (if i'm not wrong but don know still there are not). See another proof of "Showing off" dixk but not $$$ or "Caring DIXK" who sucks all his downlines $$$$ to support himself
$500 from "hue fei" if we calculate from now to end of yr
$1000 from franchise rights
~$200 from buying this and that
Even if the guy/girl decided not to pour in more money "to play their game" -
Ya lah, otherwise how to pay their car loan or house loan + other espenses. U are lucky as you are not a fulltimer, if not, they will ask you to clean the "hueOriginally posted by SavedSoul:I guess that's their way of making money from all those who joined. U know they can easily make about:
$500 from "hue fei" if we calculate from now to end of yr
$1000 from franchise rights
~$200 from buying this and that
Even if the guy/girl decided not to pour in more money "to play their game"
chang", lagi best, you immediately become free labour -
yeah yeah, my clown friend and his cm seems no call me again since i ask them some hidden issue on MSN, em, i don like to have tea with them, because it will waste my time..
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Ur fren from AAA also? No need to talk to them or meet face to face. They are very good in analyzing your body language and using subtle questions to dig info from you.Originally posted by remychan:yeah yeah, my clown friend and his cm seems no call me again since i ask them some hidden issue on MSN, em, i don like to have tea with them, because it will waste my time..
What question did you ask him about? Maybe they are having problem there as more and more people are quitting suddenly. -
Here is a news happen on 2006 April 19 in Taiwan:
A young girl named Chang who is also a fragrance product agent acccidently burned her car bcoz she bring along her fragrance product on car as encourage by her upline and company. That company of course is Lampe Berger which appear like to encourage it's agents to put their product on car to purify the air. Luckily no one was hurt. The head of Taipei firestation said he could not understand why would someone put 90% Isopropyl Alchohol product on their car which almost like asking for to get burn.
Source: http://online.sunshine.org.tw/bbs/view.asp?thread_id=2022
Sorry, all the links is chinese because lampe berger is very famous in taiwan and hong kong coz it is where it first landed. Here are more news:
1. Taiwan Deputy minister of Health, Medicine and Food control discourage public to use any product that contain Isopropyl Alchohol in narrow space.
Source: http://online.sunshine.org.tw/bbs/view.asp?thread_id=2020
2. 2 young men go kidnap a boy because they spend all their money on lampe berger. Reported by East Newspaper in HK. They use credit cards to invest a total of HKD180000 into this so called fragrance business.
Source: http://online.sunshine.org.tw/bbs/view.asp?thread_id=1142
Edit: Add one more thing, ever wonder how Lampe Berger in Asia start? here is the link:
Link: http://www.geocities.com/joyfulluck/history_of_lb.html
I know some is lazy to read or dunno chinese so i briefly translate it: Lampe Burger Asia was originated from a company named Al'gomer lead by 黃樹立, but Al'gomer sales not that good so he sell it to a lady called Mrs Soo. Mrs Soo changed the company name to Lampe Burger using pyramid scheme and it was very successful. But later on this company have to bankrupt because the supplier is 黃樹立's father 黃國屏, he make her no more business then take over her company and woalah, here come the all famous Lampe Berger where we see right now. But then 黃樹立's older brother (黃樹雄
is very jealous and use some tactics to stop his younger brother to get any supply. So at the end, 黃樹雄 become the leader of Lampe Berger. His younger brother been chased out and have to create another brand called Belair.
If after reading the history of Lampe Berger you still believe 黃樹雄 is an honest business man then I really got nothing to say.
Here is link of Next Megazine (HK) further investigation on Lampe Berger, Next Megazine is Hong Kong most popular megazine, if you still doubt this megazine is lying then I'm speechless as well:
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Ur fren from AAA also? No need to talk to them or meet face to face. They are very good in analyzing your body language and using subtle questions to dig info from you.
I ask him whether join AAA need to pay member fee? Whether u bring prospect to their brainwash lesson u need to pay? and ask some hidden thing like..who clean up the AAA office arh..and so so
What question did you ask him about? Maybe they are having problem there as more and more people are quitting suddenly.
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orange88 arh, forum here cant display any chinese character, i wonder whether u from lampeberger help..or from chinese cari?
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-_-' neither i just got 'em online though... a friend help me translate it bah!
its something about how Bel Air started off, and how the product is dangerous.. bla bla bla -
[quote]Originally posted by orange88:
[b]Here is a news happen on 2006 April 19 in Taiwan:
A young girl... who is also a fragrance product agent acccidently burned her car bcoz she bring along her fragrance product on car as encourage by her upline & company. That company of cos is Lampe Berger which appear like to encourage their agents to put their product on car to purify the air. Luckily no one was hurt. The head of Taipei firestation said he could not understand why would someone put 90% Isopropyl Alchohol product on their car which almost like asking for to get burn. (Some of the B'A distributors are doing that too, lucky nothing happen so far, As they claimed their diffusers are better than L.B.)
Sorry, all the links is chinese bcoz LB is very famous in taiwan and hong kong coz it's where it 1st landed. Here are more news:
1. Taiwan Deputy minister of Health, Medicine & Food control discourage public to use any product that contain Isopropyl Alchohol in narrow space.
2. 2 young men kidnapped a boy bcoz they've spend all their money on L.B, reported by East Newspaper in HK. They used credit cards to invest a total of HKD180000 into this so called fragrance business.
Ever wonder how Lampe Berger in Asia start? Here is the link: http://www.geocities.com/joyfulluck/history_of_lb.html
Lampe Berger Asia was originated from a company named Al'gomer lead by__ but Al'gomer sales not that good so he sell it to a lady called Mrs Soo. Mrs Soo changed the company name to Lampe Berger using pyramid scheme & it was very successful. But later on this company bankrupted due to the supplier is___'s father &___, he make her no more biz then took over her company & woa lah, here come the all famous L.B where we see right now. But then ___'s older brother (___) is very jealous & use some tactics to stop his younger brother to get any supply. So at the end, __ become the leader of L.B. His younger brother been chased out and have to create another brand called Belair. (Ya, Cambodian born Chinese bros, Huang family)
If after reading the history of the company, you still believe ___ is an honest biz man then I really speechless! (For B'A, the company is registered as Sathelyne International Group Ltd. In S'pore it named as Shiang Series....)
Here is link of Hong Kong most popular Next Magazine (HK) further investigation on L.B. : http://www.geocities.com/joyfulluck/news_next.html. If you still doubt it, then Wish U Luck!
Seen U quite new to L.B. things. Anyway tks for ur infor of L.B. history. How about the full history of B'A in Taiwan, Hong Kong & S'pore? As B'Airians only known part of the story.
When B'A 1st launched in S'pore in 1998, that time they're doing illegality, as S'pore has not recognize the industry of MLM/ Network Marketing. Those pioneers have to travel over to M'sia to attend lessons, self-paid (accommodation, transportation fare, meal, lesson fees etc...) for everything. Only in 2000, S'pore started the industry. And even now every B'Airans need to self-pay (accomodation, air tickets, meals, lessons, Taiwan transport fare etc...) to fly over to headquater at Taiwan to go for lessons or meet up their CEO. -
hi guys for those who were wondering where i have gone to, been busy with work and trying to get away from the Bel Air episope, life goes on, we all have to move on and the friend the victim has already moved on after getting back full refund from those unethical guys at Bel Air.. Anyway we quit trying to bother with Bel Air cos CAD is unwilling to proceed unless the situation blows up. Also send letter to MTI but not much of a respnse from them. It will be good if every forumer here contribute and chip in by contacting CAD and lodging a compliant, with numbers comes strength and if enough people make noise CAD will then be forced to do something.
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How 'bout contacting the papers like Straits Times? Will they listen?Originally posted by Scorpio76:hi guys for those who were wondering where i have gone to, been busy with work and trying to get away from the Bel Air episope, life goes on, we all have to move on and the friend the victim has already moved on after getting back full refund from those unethical guys at Bel Air.. Anyway we quit trying to bother with Bel Air cos CAD is unwilling to proceed unless the situation blows up. Also send letter to MTI but not much of a respnse from them. It will be good if every forumer here contribute and chip in by contacting CAD and lodging a compliant, with numbers comes strength and if enough people make noise CAD will then be forced to do something. -
Try The Straits Times, new young web: www.stomp.com.sgOriginally posted by SavedSoul:How 'bout contacting the papers like Straits Times? Will they listen? -
how would stomp.com be useful?Originally posted by Life2BfUn:Try The Straits Times, new young web: www.stomp.com.sg -
I dunno wherther is useful, but no harm to try. It a popular latest web, alot of people will be there to read about it.Originally posted by laurence82:how would stomp.com be useful?
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there are other ways also. for eg. channelnewsasia forum. let other forums know as well. more ppl will be alerted and hence will avoid this company, meaning less business for it.
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hey friend.. b4 u say itz a SH*TTY company.. ask urself..Originally posted by Rock^Star:From the looks of this forum and others on Bel'Air.......seems like it is a SHITTY company!!!
How come this kind of company can still survive till today worldwide? Scorpio 76 seems to imply that it is a "pyramid" style company.....If so, what the hell is CAD doing? Or is Bel'Air so smart that it has managed to play within the rules all these fXXXing years!!
Sighz.....hope these "think I can retire by 35" morons rot in deep hell.
1.are u aware of what's all abt in each company..?how it works..what they trying to say etc..?
2.how much u know abt these MLM or MN stuff..?
dun just see the replies in the forum and presume alrdy tt itz a SH*TTY company..
what i see more is like they asking u to eat SH*T(negative replies) u eat..
i think u shld change ur nick to SHIT better.. -
Originally posted by jtchong:
heheh another one. be prepared to be flamed....!!
[quote]Originally posted by Rock^Star:
[b]From the looks of this forum and others on Bel'Air.......seems like it is a SHITTY company!!!
How come this kind of company can still survive till today worldwide? Scorpio 76 seems to imply that it is a "pyramid" style company.....If so, what the hell is CAD doing? Or is Bel'Air so smart that it has managed to play within the rules all these fXXXing years!!
Sighz.....hope these "think I can retire by 35" morons rot in deep hell./quote]
hey friend.. b4 u say itz a shitty company.. ask urself..
1.are u aware of what's all abt in each company..?how it works..what they trying to say etc..?
2.how much u know abt these MLM or MN stuff..?
dun just see the replies in the forum and presume alrdy tt itz a shitty company..
what i see is like they asking u to eat SHIT(negative comments) u eat..
i think u shld change ur nick to SHIT better..
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come lor...~!!!! i scare meh..Originally posted by mhcampboy:heheh another one. be prepared to be flamed....!!
u can see from those majority of the replies... some very obvious..dun know watz going on..act YAH YAH.. giving bad or sacastic remarks..wana act like know alot..
there's one who reply sadi tt they cheated his money..then when pple ask how they cheated his $$...never see him reply liao till now..
this line is gd for pple who wana walk ard..meeting new pple..gain more experience and knowledge thoru all walks of life..watz the current trend in the market now etc..weather u wana join or not is up to u... not like after e talk u HAVE TO JOIN~!! no such thing rite..??!!
i can understand tt there are some who are out to cheat ur $$ type..they are reali FUCKING SPOILERS..but 1 or 2 NM company u encountered doesnt mean all are bad.. i would say ur chance is not here yet.. some dun even have tt chance at all..!! work his life so hard till die..which majority of the sporean is doing rite now..
mayb tt person have tt chance.. but bcuz of some spoiler friends who comment abt the bad point of the company etc..in the end the person never join cuz of tt bad comments..and wasted a gd chance..u can say tt tt person has the right to think and choose.. but who would he listen more..?? u as a friend or the agent who he barely know him throu the talk only..
it a chance for each individuals to explore ur potential..his best.. stand up again when u fall down.. not fall down alrdy.. sit there and start shooting bad comments..weather company or pple.. they are basically just LOSERS~~!!
ask urself..what have u learn from this..?? how it can help u etc if u encounter another similiar situation..?? not just from previous bad experience condemm this line alrdy..
just my thou..
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Are you from this Network marketing/MLM Line? Care to share what are your views? Have you found a good company that you are proud to be working with?Originally posted by jtchong:come lor...~!!!! i scare meh..
u can see from those majority of the replies... some very obvious..dun know watz going on..act YAH YAH.. giving bad or sacastic remarks..wana act like know alot..
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ask urself..what have u learn from this..?? how it can help u etc if u encounter another similiar situation..?? not just from previous bad experience condemm this line alrdy..
just my thou..
Some of us here have had bad experience that is why we share it out here to warn people to be careful. I myself have been through it and alot of those I know from that NM/MLM company felt the same way and quit. If suddenly a bunch of people quit like that, don't u think there's a serious problem in hand? Would so many quit if what they say is true? That you can retire young and rich? And be financially independent?
These are the questions that begs answers, so far I've not seen anyone step up to defend this "AAA/Bel'Air" company and what they're doing is right. All I've seen is bad comments and experience. Especially with their sister company Lampe Berger's scandal in HK and Msia.
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Its people like you that makes the industry so dangerous to work in. Those MLMs that actually work or are good are hardly featured in the forums. Those that are frequently mentioned here have problems. Sometimes its not just the people, its the whole system from bosses to products to people.
If you waht to explore your potential, there are many safer and time tested methods of doing that. And the best thing is that most of them do not require a monetary investment unlike MLMs. When people say things likework his life so hard till die..which majority of the sporean is doing rite now..
it makes me very sick in my stomach as they seem to think that leading an honest life with no pricks in their conscience is a bad thing. I know many people of the older generation who led a fulfilling life, worked till old and were happy people. These people have true happiness as through the hard times we appreciate the good. Never be afraid to be normal and never be afraid to shine. If you never learn to see the pothole, you will keep falling in everytime you come across another one. These people with real experiences are sharing their experiences to show and tell people of the potential pitfalls and their committment to educating the public about potential pitfalls should put people like you to shame.
Fancy you coming here, defending a shadow of something you don't really understand. The point of this thread is to discuss about Bel'Air, there is nothing for you to positively contribute if you cannot provide facts as to why the claims against Bel'Air here are untrue. Come back when you have explored your potential of your linguistic ability as it seems far below par. -
JTChong, I think you should stop embarrassing yourself by posting in sgforums. Base on what you have posted here and in other threads, I must conclude you are the one who know little about MLMs but trying to act as an expert on the topic. Your postings are hardly intelligble and if this is the best you could present to your prospects, I seriously doubt you are going to be successful and if you are, I am amused by the cognitive reasoning ability of those who joined you. Get a mirrior and ask yourself the questions you posted to Rock'Star.Originally posted by jtchong:hey friend.. b4 u say itz a SH*TTY company.. ask urself..
1.are u aware of what's all abt in each company..?how it works..what they trying to say etc..?
2.how much u know abt these MLM or MN stuff..?
dun just see the replies in the forum and presume alrdy tt itz a SH*TTY company..
what i see more is like they asking u to eat SH*T(negative replies) u eat..
i think u shld change ur nick to SHIT better..
(a) Am I aware how Bel'Air system works: The high investment amounts, the hidden costs, the compensation plans, their brainwashing seminars, their "trainings" etc
(b) How much do I know about MLM and NM ? You seem to know a lot, share with us your experience. I am sure forumers would like to know your expertise on the topics
Auntie Duke claimed earning 5 to 6 figures. Join her and you will be earning more than the American President with a 6 figures income, Dude
Shame on you for having such a shallow views about life