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hi guys.. just sharing abit of thought...
there is really no such thing as no choice... the way I see it, some of those marquis still inside will end up like another R or D one day... majority will eventually leave of course, like us, to rebuild their lives.. but there will be 1 or 2 who stayed behind all the way to ruin more lives in the future...
Thus it is important that our work continues... if we don't stop them now, 5 yrs down the road, there's going to be another Baldwin, another me, another new victim whose only fault is that he/she chose to trust and believe... IT HAS TO STOP NOW!
we can't attack them directly in the papers... that could probably end up in a messy lawsuit... i bet those fcukers still have some $$ to sue us, so what we can do is to educate people abt the reality of such cleverly-disguised pyramid games... thru word-of-mouth, forums like this, etc (any ideas?)
The main aim is to increase public awareness of these evil networks, effectively cutting off AAA/FGN's supply of fresh new frens...
If they still don't want to wake up their bloody idea, then we just have to cut off their air supply... no more Mr Nice Guy...
What i want to do is just to save them from their nightmares, and punish the real culprits (R&D) behind this.. -
[quote]Originally posted by antiFGN:
I apologise if what i posted here sounds like i'm deframing or slandering someone....
Sorry to the marquis or dukes...
Sorry to all the forumers here....
I had no intention of slandering, deframing or verbal abuse anyone here...
I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
We are in debts, company owes us money but they push to our uplines. We need money to survive.
Our friends have left us because of joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.
We had cut counts, marquis n dukes. We are in debts
[b]WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!
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Dear antiFGN,
There is no need for you to apologise here especially to the Marquis or the Dukes of AAA/FGN/Bel'Air. Their evil deeds must be exposed so that there will be less victims and hopefully the authorities will close them down one day.
I agree fully with Joachim_Peiper and do not subscribe to the notion that those who choose to stay have no choice as they are in debts. The longer they stay, the bigger the debts as some will have no income as recruitment numbers continue to dry up. Besides, by asking people to join the network, you are just pushing the debts to your downlines. The vicious cycle continues with more people getting into debts while the Dukes continue to manipulate their downlines.
They just have to move on with their lives like many of us here no matter how difficult it may be. No choice is tantamount to saying I have to cheat as I am heavily in debt similar to a swindler asking a judge for a lighter sentence because he has an ailing mother.
Antifgn, I was among the first to expose Bel'Air Disguised Pyramid scheme. It is sad to see so many people in debts but I have not given up hope that AAA/FGN/Bel'Air will be brought to justice one day.
I will continue to have my say and so should you. Do not give up. We are with you. -
[quote]Originally posted by antiFGN:
I apologise if what i posted here sounds like i'm deframing or slandering someone....
Sorry to the marquis or dukes...
Sorry to all the forumers here....
I had no intention of slandering, deframing or verbal abuse anyone here...
I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
We are in debts, company owes us money but they push to our uplines. We need money to survive.
Our friends have left us because of joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.
We had cut counts, marquis n dukes. We are in debts
[b]WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!
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Dear antiFGN,
There is no need for you to apologise here especially to the Marquis or the Dukes of AAA/FGN/Bel'Air. Their evil deeds must be exposed so that there will be less victims and hopefully the authorities will close them down one day.
I agree fully with Joachim_Peiper and do not subscribe to the notion that those who choose to stay have no choice as they are in debts. The longer they stay, the bigger the debts as some will have no income as recruitment numbers continue to dry up. Besides, by asking people to join the network, you are just pushing the debts to your downlines. The vicious cycle continues with more people getting into debts while the Dukes continue to manipulate their downlines.
They just have to move on with their lives like many of us here no matter how difficult it may be. No choice is tantamount to saying I have to cheat as I am heavily in debt similar to a swindler asking a judge for a lighter sentence because he has an ailing mother.
Antifgn, I was among the first to expose Bel'Air Disguised Pyramid scheme. It is sad to see so many people in debts but I have not given up hope that AAA/FGN/Bel'Air will be brought to justice one day.
I will continue to have my say and so should you. Do not give up. We are with you.
Dear antiFGN ,
[b]I will continue to have my say too and so should you. DO NOT GIVE UP . WE ARE WITH YOU
I would like to thank everybody who has contributed to this forum n all other forum , Whatever GOD you believe in WIll BLESS YOU
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc.... -
Used to be in BELAIR.
Used to be very active and confident about BELAIR.
Used to trust all the uplines and Mr Huang of Sathelyne France International Group.
Used to be on very good terms with the people who are still active in there BUT now is all past tense.
Although I indeed have incurred heavy debts in Belair, but I still take it very positively.
After spending some of my very precious time over there, I did gained some sincere friendship and important experience that I have never got before. And all these are indeed priceless.
To people who detested Belair so much;
Let all your anger go.
Lets all take it very positively.. At least we did learn a lesson (though its an expensive one) and most importantly, we are FREE now... Or at least free to be able to think on our own and do not have to be bonded down by the "negative" or "positive" thinking. We are humans once again and not their 'pawns' on the chest set.
Debts can be cleared, if you are determined to.
Prove to the people there that life out of it is far more better than what is in there.
We can do it. Believe in yourselves. Learn to pick yourselves up and start your lives anew!
AND to the ex-huobans who are in Belair;
I sincerely wish that all of you are actually doing well.
Or at least, you are truely happy over there.
Isn't life about doing things that you are happy with? I Guess so...
But if you are not happy AND
you are tied down with responsibilities now, let it go....
Remember, there is no right or wrong in making any decisions.
Just make the decision that you truely want and what your family members need.
Please do not get blinded with what you have seen at HIAP HUAT.
Feel it... I believe that eyes can cheat but our heart will never cheat us.
Are your uplines, sidelines or even your downlines are making money or are they not?
Have they been worrying about some financial problems and that you did not know of?
You do not have to ask them.. You know the answer yourself long ago.
If you are facing difficulties in your current debts, dun be silly. Its time for you to wake up now! There is no such thing as miracle or anything. I been through it. Do not sink any further!
People set the rules and regulations and these people break these themselves too! Just look around and see how many 'GOOD' examples you have around you. These examples are from the 'respectable' dukes and marquises. Ex-marital affairs, money lending everything is happening around you!
I can easily quote a few examples..
Its only after I left, I learnt so many 'dark' secrets.. Honestly, I felt betrayed.
Friends who want to stop all these, just let go... Its easier to give up than to persist. I believe you are all very familiar with this phrase. Please then, do not misuse it! ONLY persist on the RIGHT things and not the ones you knew that it was wrong since long ago!
Dun think that you are being responsible when you leave them behind! In fact you are becoming more selfish and more cruel by trying to help your downlines to earn their capital back or trying to earn yours back as well! Its time to stop and LIFE STILL GOES ON WELL, BE IT WITH OR WITHOUT BELAIR! And trust me, you will be more happier without it! -
Dun cried jus because 1 of a few negative posts fm the others who dun agreed with you, cos they're not in your shoe & might not had "suffered" or gone thru like you!!! But there are alot who appreciated & supported you too! Turn to those appreciaters!!Originally posted by antiFGN:To everyone here in this forums & also to those reading this forums... Pls allow me to express my sincere apologies once again to whoever felt offended by my previous posts.
Sorry to alter_eeg0 & fganti.
Sorry to those that I had directly or indirectly offended by means of abuse.
The reason why i decided to start posting in this forum is because I had personally go thru the times in bel`air.
MLM to me was something i was all along against upon. I had never believed in MLM because to me, MLM is a pyramid.
However, ........................................................
I tot some of u ex-associates tried CAD or case does help.. but it seems that it doesnt...
when i came to know of this forum, i tot there were some light n help...
At least, a place where i can voice out.... a place where i can share... a place where friends are out there willing to hear my sorrows n frustrations...
But i guess, I'm wrong.....
True friends does not exists. Associates can never keep in contact once u step out of that glass door n never turn back.
Whatever they had promised me was all but just an empty promise.
It's ok. this is not a place where i can come n share.
What can i do? Really... Help... i seek help.. what can i really do? When i see downlines in huge debts, when i see myself in huge debts... what can i do?
i will never be able to return the debts.... Can I?........................................
there are some active belairian saying that what we post here are here to "du" ppl... U think its true?.............................
This will be my last post. I cried.
Hey, yes this is the place to share with others your stories or "thinkings" for those who left BA, if not why all are here for huh???? To "Da Pi" or got nothing to do meh?! If so better go rest infront of the TV or on the bed. Think we got some many times to waste meh! Time is short, so pls continue to move on, ahead dun turn back and collect tos unhappy moments, learn & carry on!!! All are here trying to help or give public an awareness, so pls do continue to be here too, U, man or woman!!
But for thoseS here who still believe MLM can work os or 60% EX-BA whose still think BA can do but jus that only AAA need to change their ways of doing, pls go ahead to think or believe so
(every1 got their own thinking ways) As for you, you've done your very best part over here to share all good & bad things to let all forumers to know, you've done a good job, so ignore those "people". Just go ahead like' Pay It Forward' & others, U see so many pple here who maybe have seen you b4 or even dun know u, do concern abt you, want you to be here.....till maybe 1 day BA corrupted then we all can meet to cheer up!!!! (lol) If you think what you doing here will help alot of people, pls continue dun bother about "those"!!! Dun stop cos of only some or 1 who had pin-pointed you or...... Forget & forgive, jus continue!!!! 
Hi, pls turn deaf to those "negative feedback" or ugly "music or songs" hehe.. turn to & look for better things. As you can see there are still people here who appreciated what U & the other sharers had given their times over here. So Smile, say Cheese, move on, go on! Oleh , oleh, oleh........!!! 
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Originally posted by past tense:
Hi past tense,
[b]Used to be in BELAIR.
Used to be very active and confident about BELAIR.
Used to trust all the uplines and Mr Huang of Sathelyne France International Group.
Used to be on very good terms with the people who are still active in there BUT now is all past tense.
Although I indeed have incurred heavy debts in Belair, but I still take it very positively.
After spending some of my very precious time over there, I did gained some sincere friendship and important experience that I have never got before. And all these are indeed priceless.
To people who detested Belair so much;
Let all your anger go.
Lets all take it very positively.. At least we did learn a lesson (though its an expensive one) and most importantly, we are FREE now... Or at least free to be able to think on our own and do not have to be bonded down by the "negative" or "positive" thinking. We are humans once again and not their 'pawns' on the chest set.
Debts can be cleared, if you are determined to.
Prove to the people there that life out of it is far more better than what is in there.
We can do it. Believe in yourselves. Learn to pick yourselves up and start your lives anew!
AND to the ex-huobans who are in Belair;
I sincerely wish that all of you are actually doing well.
Or at least, you are truely happy over there.
Isn't life about doing things that you are happy with? I Guess so...
But if you are not happy AND
you are tied down with responsibilities now, let it go....
Remember, there is no right or wrong in making any decisions.
Just make the decision that you truely want and what your family members need.
Please do not get blinded with what you have seen at HIAP HUAT.
Feel it... I believe that eyes can cheat but our heart will never cheat us.
Are your uplines, sidelines or even your downlines are making money or are they not?
Have they been worrying about some financial problems and that you did not know of?
You do not have to ask them.. You know the answer yourself long ago.
If you are facing difficulties in your current debts, dun be silly. Its time for you to wake up now! There is no such thing as miracle or anything. I been through it. Do not sink any further!
People set the rules and regulations and these people break these themselves too! Just look around and see how many 'GOOD' examples you have around you. These examples are from the 'respectable' dukes and marquises. Ex-marital affairs, money lending everything is happening around you!
I can easily quote a few examples..
Its only after I left, I learnt so many 'dark' secrets.. Honestly, I felt betrayed.
Friends who want to stop all these, just let go... Its easier to give up than to persist. I believe you are all very familiar with this phrase. Please then, do not misuse it! ONLY persist on the RIGHT things and not the ones you knew that it was wrong since long ago!
Dun think that you are being responsible when you leave them behind! In fact you are becoming more selfish and more cruel by trying to help your downlines to earn their capital back or trying to earn yours back as well! Its time to stop and LIFE STILL GOES ON WELL, BE IT WITH OR WITHOUT BELAIR! And trust me, you will be more happier without it![/b]
I think this is a really sensible post.. we must move on with our lives. How do you think we can fight against them if we can't even overcome our own difficulties? If you are in debt, work to clear it. Its not impossible. And with all that negativity, hatred, anger building up inside, you can't be happy anyway.. and it doesn't help our current situation.
Of coz, I'm not saying "do nothing about it"... but when you can't help yourself through your own difficult patch there.. its only going to make the going get tougher. I hope all of you find relief from getting out of your own ditch.. afterall, being angry only harms us.. not them.. -
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It's good that i found the post here . I got a fren who joined them. Now like brain wash, anyway to help ?
Everyday is ba only, nothing else . Most of the time dun find u. if find u means their side got activity need ppl to go then find u ......zzzz
all i can say is i went to their talk too, lots of crap...lol
Let's do our part to stop them , keep more info coming ! Thks -
Hey there everyone
Just to share me opinions here. I felt very annoyed to know that Bel'Air has been causing so much harm to people around us, especially students. Very devastated by the fact that it was a NDP sponsor and by their wrongdoings, they make me feel that NDP is being sponsored by black money.
Fancy coming up with illusions of a healthier, rewarding and promising life and career but gets their own employees into thousands of dollars of debts. What are they trying to do? To develop someone into a better person or to ruin someone to the extent such that he/she might be the next one that'll be in the news for tragedies? One victim is enough and there're so many here!
I wonder whether there's really true justice in Singapore or anywhere on earth. -
Any of your frens or relatives join there ?
If yes, how to save them ?
It seems that justice is not fair, else how can such a company still there....
Something need to be done b4 they claim more victims ....
Pls post sugguestions ,thks ! -
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by TIB744U:Hey there everyone
Just to share me opinions here. I felt very annoyed to know that Bel'Air has been causing so much harm to people around us, especially students. Very devastated by the fact that it was a NDP sponsor and by their wrongdoings, they make me feel that NDP is being sponsored by black money.
Fancy coming up with illusions of a healthier, rewarding and promising life and career but gets their own employees into thousands of dollars of debts. What are they trying to do? To develop someone into a better person or to ruin someone to the extent such that he/she might be the next one that'll be in the news for tragedies? One victim is enough and there're so many here!
I wonder whether there's really true justice in Singapore or anywhere on earth.
They are associates and not employees of the company as they are not paid a monthly salary. In fact, other than the hugh investment, associates are expected to pay a monthly due of $60 ( maybe it's more now ) to subsidise the rental for the seminar rooms to conduct brainwashing sessions. The associates( Businessman ) just Pay and Pay and they get nothing if they fail to brainwash others to join them -
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This is a really good point! They definitely will use the HAZE as an excuse in their seminars, those who are familiar or went thru AAA/BA before will know that they "claimed" that their diffusers can kill SARS and BirdFlu virus in their brainwash sessions. Now they will use this and I am afraid more people will fall into it again, and it's goin to be a never ending cycle of conning....
One suggestion is to write emails out to frens in ur email contact list and warn them of this AAA/BA organization. What do you guys think?Originally posted by antiFGN:
New friends and those who are about to go for their brainwashing sessions or have went for their brain washing sessions... LISTEN HERE!
With the [b]HAZE nowadays... they will definetaly use haze as a BIG A to tell new friends that their diffuser and essential oil can use to "combat/ de-neutralise (or wat ever chim chim words they are going to use...)"
Think abt it... if the product really work, will jakarta be so desperate as to seek help from malaysia and singapore? And if the product really works so well till the fact that they are able to sponoser NDP, wouldn't the authories know what they products are?
If so.. why didn't they recommend to the authories of JAKARTA and tell the press or the world that.. "Hey.. look here.. my diffuser can help u lighten up the haze..."
what does this says? Their PRODUCT IS STILL NOT RECOGNISED!
And the fact that they say that that diffuser head does not burn tissue paper but only char...
pls.. that head theory is the same as those "incense joysticks"... if u have one at home... just try it.. n u will not its not something great tot they claim they got patent for that head... but has anyone seen that report before?
and below is a source that says that aromatherapy has NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE!
There is no scientific evidence that aromatherapy cures or prevents disease; however, a few clinical studies suggest aromatherapy may be a helpful complementary therapy. In Britain, there are reports of the successful use of aromatherapy massage as a complementary treatment for people with cancer to reduce anxiety, depression, tension, and pain. However, some studies show no difference in outcome between massage with aromatherapy oils and massage without them. There are also reports that inhaled peppermint, ginger, and cardamom oil seem to relieve the nausea caused by chemotherapy and radiation. However, these reports have not been scientifically proven.
Source: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/ETO/content/ETO_5_3X_Aromatherapy.asp?sitearea=ETO[/b] -
Post by Enraged 20 October 2006 · 04:06 PM
Any of your frens or relatives join there ?
If yes, how to save them ?
It seems that justice is not fair, else how can such a company still there....
Something need to be done b4 they claim more victims ....
Pls post sugguestions ,thks !
1.) Tell your friends , to invest u need to know to pros n cons , they got nothing to lose , just come to this site n read . (Dun hv to put any 16k ,72k etc kkk to read )
2.) Ask them to read what is here (the lesson learn from forumers here , so call failures by the ' BLOOD SUCKERS ' )
3.) And as mention by k2wanviet 'expected to pay a monthly due of $60 ( maybe it's more now ) to subsidise the rental for the seminar rooms'. That the MINIMUM SUM , just go imagine the extra $$$$$ that will come along when u hv join them . ( they will tell u + + + + + + + + eh because of this because of that).
4.) Print this n show your friends post by past tense on 18 October 2006 · 11:12 PM
Used to be in BELAIR.
Used to be very active and confident about BELAIR.
Used to trust all the uplines and Mr Huang of Sathelyne France International Group.
Used to be on very good terms with the people who are still active in there BUT now is all past tense.
Although I indeed have incurred heavy debts in Belair, but I still take it very positively.
After spending some of my very precious time over there, I did gained some sincere friendship and important experience that I have never got before. And all these are indeed priceless.
To people who detested Belair so much;
Let all your anger go.
Lets all take it very positively.. At least we did learn a lesson (though its an expensive one) and most importantly, we are FREE now... Or at least free to be able to think on our own and do not have to be bonded down by the "negative" or "positive" thinking. We are humans once again and not their 'pawns' on the chest set.
Debts can be cleared, if you are determined to.
Prove to the people there that life out of it is far more better than what is in there.
We can do it. Believe in yourselves. Learn to pick yourselves up and start your lives anew!
AND to the ex-huobans who are in Belair;
I sincerely wish that all of you are actually doing well.
Or at least, you are truely happy over there.
Isn't life about doing things that you are happy with? I Guess so...
But if you are not happy AND
you are tied down with responsibilities now, let it go....
Remember, there is no right or wrong in making any decisions.
Just make the decision that you truely want and what your family members need.
Please do not get blinded with what you have seen at HIAP HUAT.
Feel it... I believe that eyes can cheat but our heart will never cheat us.
Are your uplines, sidelines or even your downlines are making money or are they not?
Have they been worrying about some financial problems and that you did not know of?
You do not have to ask them.. You know the answer yourself long ago.
If you are facing difficulties in your current debts, dun be silly. Its time for you to wake up now! There is no such thing as miracle or anything. I been through it. Do not sink any further!
People set the rules and regulations and these people break these themselves too! Just look around and see how many 'GOOD' examples you have around you. These examples are from the 'respectable' dukes and marquises. Ex-marital affairs, money lending everything is happening around you!
I can easily quote a few examples..
Its only after I left, I learnt so many 'dark' secrets.. Honestly, I felt betrayed.
Friends who want to stop all these, just let go... Its easier to give up than to persist. I believe you are all very familiar with this phrase. Please then, do not misuse it! ONLY persist on the RIGHT things and not the ones you knew that it was wrong since long ago!
Dun think that you are being responsible when you leave them behind! In fact you are becoming more selfish and more cruel by trying to help your downlines to earn their capital back or trying to earn yours back as well! Its time to stop and LIFE STILL GOES ON WELL, BE IT WITH OR WITHOUT BELAIR! And trust me, you will be more happier without it!
5.) GOD BLESS YOUR FRIEND
6.) Pray hard for another soul that will be save.
I would like to thank everybody who has contributed to this forum n all other forum , Whatever GOD you believe in WIll BLESS YOU
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc.... -
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Dear antiFGN
There is no need to verify , i believe they want to leave but r helpless . 
They must leave the place/situation before anything can be done. (because there will be voices to induce them into further DEBTS).
They MUST LEAVE so they can compose their thoughts n plan what they are suppose to do next .
They can't do anything while they are still in it , only getting themselves DEEPER INTO DEBTS .
Once they have distance themselves from the source that have cause them so much MISERY n DISASTER . Then i can promise them that they will find a solution to their problems . They must be mentally strong to make the decision n willingly to take responsiblilty of what will happen in their new chapter in life . I truly wish they will leave ASAP as i have been through it .
My sincerce encourgement to all of those who are truly n sincerely wishing to leave .
It take great courage and it will be a more beautiful world to be in .
It is definitely true as all can read from this forum that NOT EVEN 1 SOUL THAT HAVE LEFT THAT PLACE IS SAD . -
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Originally posted by antiFGN:met up wif 1 of the M last night....
he wanted to get out of there so much.. but can't.. coz he is seriously in debt...
n he told me that alot of other M also want to get out.. n the network is dying...
anyone can verify?
Ask him:- Is staying in the network going to clear his debts with the stinking reputation of Bel'Air. Recruitment is going to get worse and not better. If he is seriously of thinking his debts, he should leave now and not later.
Like AntiFGN, it would be good if someone could verify that the network is crumping. Judging by the postings, it should be.
Well done forumers -
Originally posted by Pay It Forward:Dear antiFGN There is no need to verify , i believe they want to leave but r helpless . They must leave the place/situation before anything can be done. (because there will be voices to induce them into further DEBTS).
They MUST LEAVE so they can compose their thoughts n plan what they are suppose to do next .
They can't do anything while they are still in it , only getting themselves DEEPER INTO DEBTS .
Once they have distance themselves from the source that have cause them so much MISERY n DISASTER . Then i can promise them that they will find a solution to their problems . They must be mentally strong to make the decision n willingly to take responsiblilty of what will happen in their new chapter in life . I truly wish they will leave ASAP as i have been through it .
My sincerce encourgement to all of those who are truly n sincerely wishing to leave .
It take great courage and it will be a more beautiful world to be in . It is definitely true as all can read from this forum that NOT EVEN 1 SOUL THAT HAVE LEFT THAT PLACE IS SAD .
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SAD>>>> Never.
In fact, I felt relieved immediately after a decision is made. I know the day will come where Bel'Air/AAA/FGN will meet its end. It's very near........... Let's persevere and continue to expose their evil deeds. -
WHO R THE REAL CULPRITS!
1. The Chairman
2. The Sisters of Loh
WHY!
In the middle of last year, AAA got the core team (those D n M mentioned in this forum) to go to Taiwan to meet the Chairman. That's where all the Nightmare begins.....
The team was basically brain-washed to adopt these ideologies in their operations :
a. Only when u r Rich, then U will be respected by others...(crap)
b. In business, your heart MUST BE AS HARD AS STEEL
c. Moral ethics like Honesty & Trust is not for people in business
d. Be a Lion in the forest, not the Deer! else u will be MAKAN!
After the brain-wash, the Chairman showed them his string of 12 luxury / sports car parked in his garage.....and told them ....THIS IS CALLED SUCCESSFUL !
From then on, 1+5 / 1+15 was executed without FEAR or REMORSE!
I suggest 'victims' gathered together, write a letter with all facts enclosed to the Prime Minister Office for I think those high paying govt officers in CAD aren't doing their job. Remember, must have FACTS before u write.
Expose the disguised pyramid scheme to prevent other innocent people from being 'preyed' by them.
Good Luck! -
Thank you for your sharing BrandSing
We need more sharing of experiences because we need to causes awareness.
As to my knowledge the Marquis maintenance is raise to 90,000pv which is $5,000. As a Marquis u hv 41% discount , $5k less 41% = $2950 maintenace a month , compare to the last time was 20,000pv which is $1,111 less 41% = $655.5 ( the difference is extra maintenace of $2,295/mth)
So i am wondering where this extra $2,295 goes to?
So if a marquis have to do maintenace of $2950 just by doing consumers sales that will not survive , that means they will have to CUT COUNT no matter which grp they belongs too sooner or later. (this was also shared by the senior distributor as mentioned below)
I came across a senior distributor on sunday 22/10/06 , we had a lengthly chat and i was surprised that she also left .
she shared wth me that she came to realised that this is not her bussiness as it was kenneth Huangg biz . That we distributors was merely super salesperson(i got a shocked)
What she shared was that she saw distributors leaving but had no impact on her(to her was they can't make it). But when Duke Raymondd Sunn left it left her pondering why .
1.)Was he really earning that kind of $$$ .
2.)He has left but Belair is still running so if she leave belair would still be running , but if BEL'AIR STOP FUNCTIONING SHE AND ALL DISTRIBUTORS WILL HAVE TO STOP , thus she realised that it is not she bussiness because she has no control of it . (She told me she came to realise that all distributors are super salesperson 'working' for kenneth Huangg who has the control of the company called BEL'AIR .(Indeed something that struck me )
3.)I have ask her whether she still have the old magazines so that she came email me the pictures of ARCH DUKE FU so i can upload to let those who were told that there was no ARCH DUKE N THEY SHOULD LOOK TOWARDS IT .
4.) Let them ask their Uplines Y Y Y there is a ARCH DUKE but they denied it all along(because only the senior distributors know this FACT).
Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss)
I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
I would like to thank everybody who has contributed to this forum n all other forum , Whatever GOD you believe in WILL BLESS YOU
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgs through email , msn, Posters , notice board etc.... -
Anybody who has the picture of the ARCH DUKE FU pls email at [email protected] so i can upload it.
Thank you very much -
If it belongs to their own biz, the Loh sisters should already retired.And enjoyed the fruits that they have planted. But till today they still struggled,Why? Because it only the Huang own it. They are can say only the part of the salesperson.Originally posted by Pay It Forward: Thank you for your sharing BrandSing
We need more sharing of experiences because we need to causes awareness.
As to my knowledge the Marquis maintenance is raise to 90,000pv which is $5,000. As a Marquis u hv 41% discount , $5k less 41% = $2950 maintenace a month , compare to the last time was 20,000pv which is $1,111 less 41% = $655.5 ( the difference is extra maintenace of $2,295/mth)
So i am wondering where this extra $2,295 goes to?
So if a marquis have to do maintenace of $2950 just by doing consumers sales that will not survive , that means they will have to CUT COUNT no matter which grp they belongs too sooner or later. (this was also shared by the senior distributor as mentioned below)
I came across a senior distributor on sunday 22/10/06 , we had a lengthly chat and i was surprised that she also left .
she shared wth me that she came to realised that this is not her bussiness as it was kenneth Huangg biz . That we distributors was merely super salesperson(i got a shocked)
What she shared was that she saw distributors leaving but had no impact on her(to her was they can't make it). But when Duke Raymondd Sunn left it left her pondering why .
1.)Was he really earning that kind of $$$ .
2.)He has left but Belair is still running so if she leave belair would still be running , but if BEL'AIR STOP FUNCTIONING SHE AND ALL DISTRIBUTORS WILL HAVE TO STOP , thus she realised that it is not she bussiness because she has no control of it . (She told me she came to realise that all distributors are super salesperson 'working' for kenneth Huangg who has the control of the company called BEL'AIR .(Indeed something that struck me )
3.)I have ask her whether she still have the old magazines so that she came email me the pictures of ARCH DUKE FU so i can upload to let those who were told that there was no ARCH DUKE N THEY SHOULD LOOK TOWARDS IT .
4.) Let them ask their Uplines Y Y Y there is a ARCH DUKE but they denied it all along(because only the senior distributors know this FACT).
Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss)
I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
I would like to thank everybody who has contributed to this forum n all other forum , Whatever GOD you believe in WILL BLESS YOU
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgs through email , msn, Posters , notice board etc.... -
hi antiFGNOriginally posted by antiFGN:met up wif 1 of the M last night....
he wanted to get out of there so much.. but can't.. coz he is seriously in debt...
n he told me that alot of other M also want to get out.. n the network is dying...
anyone can verify?
We manage to get information that a Marquis had left FGN a few weeks ago.
Cheers do visit us ok!!! -
i left that place most half a year ago. didn't know that there is so much dark secrets about that place. makes me feel so ashamed of my own judgement. i join not for greed. i joined because i was brainwashed that this is the solution to my many financial problems. in fact, it landed me in more debts and i lost not only most of my friends, but my parents' trust. there was time i even question myself why me, being so anti MLM, allow myself to be brainwashed into this organisation and conned of all my insurance investments, my life savings, and slogged like bull to return debts. there is no words to phrase my regrets.
because of my own misjudgement, now i have to live with remose, regret and grief over the loss of money, friends and trust of so many ppl. spent a lot of time reading pages by pages. this re-fuelled my anger within me for a long time. i will share my own experience in the later post. -
Dear fallen_souL pls do not be angry be responsible for your misjudgement (do not re-fuelled your anger).
As what i read what u written :-
because of my own misjudgement, now i have to live with remose, regret and grief over the loss of money, friends and trust of so many ppl. spent a lot of time reading pages by pages. this re-fuelled my anger within me for a long time. i will share my own experience in the later post.
My best wishes to u for seeing your own misjudgement(me i myself was like that once).
Pls do share your own experience so as to create awareness to the public so that at least i more soul could be saved.
Thank U
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
I would like to thank everybody who has contributed to this forum n all other forum , Whatever GOD you believe in WILL BLESS YOU
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc....
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