Bel' Air
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Read the message about a particular marquis who wants to leave Belair but because of the debts, got no choice but to stay.
One word: Disgusted
What does this person mean exactly? I felt really disappointed with him/her.
I believe that there are still many people who are stuck in Belair who will feel the same way too. But does this gives you an excuse to stay behind and get more people involved who will end up in deep mess like what you are in now.
Even a 3-year old child knows that when something is bad, he must not offer it to anyone else. This is what I called: Consideration and Kindness.
We make mistakes and we learn from them. Seriously, its alright. Dun ever worry about admitting these mistakes.
My dearest pals in Belair, be brave and move on. Nothing is over yet. Nothing changes at all while you are still in Belair. Everything is still the same.
1)Worrying that you may not be able to clear your debts? Only by staying in Belair can help you clear these debts?
The truth is: How much have you earned in Belair? Or should I say, how often has your uplines asked you to fork out extra money to buy your last count to challenge or to complete your challenge? To take it positively, maybe these uplines are really trying to help you.But the thing is, perhaps they themselves are also being blinded by Belair and would never expect you to end up in deeper debts too.I believe that they really mean to help you when they promised you at that time but frens, circumstances and situations happen ALL THE TIME.So, dun blame anyone if you are in deep debts because of this cause WE ARE THE ONES who listened and trusted them.
2)Worrying that your family members and friends will jeer at you when you leave Belair?
The truth is: Haha.. that's nonsense thinking! Your real family and frens will never use this to mock at you. But nevertheless, of course there may be some sarcastic ones. But the thing is, WHO CARES? Tell you frankly, most of our family members will actually feel relieve you finally make up your mind to leave. Its just that they do not want to express how they feel cause they thought that by telling you their honest views, or they might affect you and your 'career' in Belair. So, these very supportive parents and family of ours, will rather keep quiet and pretended that everything is alright. You are actually 'Releasing' them from all the worries and stress by coming up with a GOOD decision.
3) Worrying what will happen to your uplines and downlines when you leave?
The truth is: Maybe they are like you, already start to have hesitations about Belair. Do you think they will stop if you leave?Haha.. No way! Unless they themselves want to. Dun be naive. There is never a RIGHT time to leave... Dun stay behind and think that your presence will mean a lot to these people. Thinking to help your downlines to earn back their capital before you leave? Its ENOUGH! Better stop doing that! This is an absolutely wrong thinking! You are actually causing more innocent people to sink into deeper debts like you do! These 'new' people you are recruiting does not own tons of ten thousands to spare. They themselves will have to borrow from banks, frens and family to get into this. This will be endless, so please do not do that.
4)Worrying that you may not be able to find a good job as the market is rather competitive nowadays?
The truth is: Market nowdays is indeed very competitive and good jobs are hard to come by. But are you truely afraid or its just the ego of yours playing tricks on you again? Money is all around us. There is no high or low class jobs. As long as its a honest job that can give us a peaceful and stressful mind, why not go for it for the time being and keep a look-out for a better one?
NO WORRIES!
Belair has trained us well and tough. Nothing outside will be too difficult for us to conquer. We have learned to be determined and strong willed so overcoming obstacles will definitely be not of any problem.
If you have decided to give yourself and start afresh again, here are some tips:
Tip 1: Look in your classified ad section again. (See.. there are so many available great job offers.) Go to Jobs DB website too.... Start preparing your resume and fly it to every job that you think may suit you. Start calling and emailing now! You sure will have no problems with the interviews!
Tip 2: Cancel all your credit cards and call the banks for assistance. Assure them that you really want to clear off the debts that you have owed them and ask for a good instalment plan to clear it. (I did this and the bank gave me a good plan and even a great discount for the debts! 2 more months to clear them and I am free!)
Tip 3: Try to reduce your monthly expenses. If you have any existing internet or SCV services and the contract is already over, cancel them. If you have any cars, stop trying to afford them.
Tip4: Draw out a good debts clearing plan.
For instance;
you are earning $2.5 k monthly, you can use $1.5K to clear your debts.
Tip5: Have good time management.
If you do not earn enough cash to survive, then do domething! I am holding 2 jobs currently but I still can have 1 weekend off!
Who says you have to slog very hard to pay off your debts?
And last but not least, be true to yourself. That is really very important. Do not pretend to be strong if you really cannot take it. I know its really hard when you are already having a $10+K or even a $100K debt to bear at such a young age. I never said that clearing debts is easy, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. Dun ever give up trying to do that. Frens are always around you. Seek advices from them. I have faith that you be able to cross this hurdle. Jia you, Friend! -
past tense,
Great Tips! That proves that when a man has fallen, he knows how to pick himselft up and face life head on! Hope our other frens who were victimised by AAA/BELAIR/FGN able to take ur tips and move on with life. I know I did =)
SavedSoulOriginally posted by past tense:
[b]Read the message about a particular marquis who wants to leave Belair but because of the debts, got no choice but to stay.
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If you have decided to give yourself and start afresh again, here are some tips:
Tip 1: Look in your classified ad section again. (See.. there are so many available great job offers.) Go to Jobs DB website too.... Start preparing your resume and fly it to every job that you think may suit you. Start calling and emailing now! You sure will have no problems with the interviews!
Tip 2: Cancel all your credit cards and call the banks for assistance. Assure them that you really want to clear off the debts that you have owed them and ask for a good instalment plan to clear it. (I did this and the bank gave me a good plan and even a great discount for the debts! 2 more months to clear them and I am free!)
Tip 3: Try to reduce your monthly expenses. If you have any existing internet or SCV services and the contract is already over, cancel them. If you have any cars, stop trying to afford them.
Tip4: Draw out a good debts clearing plan.
For instance;
you are earning $2.5 k monthly, you can use $1.5K to clear your debts.
Tip5: Have good time management.
If you do not earn enough cash to survive, then do domething! I am holding 2 jobs currently but I still can have 1 weekend off!
Who says you have to slog very hard to pay off your debts?
And last but not least, be true to yourself. That is really very important. Do not pretend to be strong if you really cannot take it. I know its really hard when you are already having a $10+K or even a $100K debt to bear at such a young age. I never said that clearing debts is easy, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. Dun ever give up trying to do that. Frens are always around you. Seek advices from them. I have faith that you be able to cross this hurdle. Jia you, Friend![/b] -
somebody been editing his own posts
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why is fganti editing all his posts?
what 'no freedom of speech'?
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fganti and antiFGNOriginally posted by laurence82:why is fganti editing all his posts?
what 'no freedom of speech'?
I wish to know too. I could only presume they know your identities and you have been threatened. I see no reasons for you to fear if you are speaking the truths.
What is no freedom of speech? You edited your own postings and not the Moderator.
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something is going very wrong in there. these poor souls are getting something which they never expect.
i hope they get the courage to walk out of the shadows those bastards are casting over them. hang on, sunlight is always after the storm.
for those ppl behind these, watch out for karma. u have been warned. -
Hey there everyone
From an outsider's point of view, somebody from inside Bel'Air must've ordered them to edit their posts with threats etc. Let me urge them to continue speaking the truth inside this forum because at this point of time, what they need's our ears, our eyes and if possible, our help to spread warnings to people out there who've been tempted by their peers to join Bel'Air etc.
On me part, I've been spreading words to friends about Bel'Air and their vicious schemes that caused loads of troubles and miseries to a lot of people who're now into debts etc.
NO MATTER HOW MUCH THREATS THEY CAN GIVE, IT SHALL NOT STOP ANYONE TO SPEAK THE TRUTH OUT. THE TRUTH HAS TO BE REVEALED FOR OTHERS TO KNOW.
To all the Bel'Air people out there who're still enjoying getting people into debts: You people are true LOSERS. You'll get your retributions one fine day for what you people've done. -
YeS ! Need more ppl to disclose more .
They done a lot damage to my close ones.
Well, lot of crap inside , can't believe they can brain wash ppl to think it can work etc.
Those who get brain wash, only got ba in their mind nothing else. they will do anything for it.
Let's do something to save them
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Have been in Belair for quite a few years, very active, used to be so passionate than anyone else. Trusted all the leaders there, abide strictly to the rules and regulations (though later realise the leaders break it themselves). working hard to expand own network...put all my heart and soul to build up my network. We used to be a true, hardworking and most of all Happy Network.
But all these is past....
Time really flies, left AAA more than a year. And have never regret that decision. But it is not easy. I can truly understand for those who have been in heavy debts, emotionally hurt, trust was tarnished, spiritually weak. Alot of ex-huobans that i know, had to suffer bad debts but also some got depression. I know one of them even wanted to commit suicide. Sigh!
It is really saddening to hear that. But i have been through all this. It is really over.
After i decide to leave, I have tried to put blame on others of what i have become...to make myself abit more comfortable. I know i can't do that. Worse still, i start to blame myself. It is retribution. I have let down so many huobans causing them to be in debts, emotionally hurt. That's where i start to have depression, illusions etc...i couldn't find a proper job. This has been a long period.
Until I slowly realise that every human being do make mistakes, u are not a saint. What decision we have make is based on our limited knowledge and feeling at that point of time. I just want to say "Everything that happens for a reason!" Learn from it.
AS what Past Tense has mentioned, with the communication skills we learn from Belair, finding a job is really not difficult. You have the confidence that most employees would like to have you. Trust me. I am glad that right now, at least i have the ability to pay my debts (though its still alot more, but it still can be done!)
I think now what is our responsibility is to keep on spreading this forum to others that we care. Jia you!
Should you have any problems, please feel free to enquire! Cos i know most of the leaders background very well. Hee... -
Originally posted by past tense:
[b]Read the message about a particular marquis who wants to leave Belair but because of the debts, got no choice but to stay.
One word: Disgusted
What does this person mean exactly? I felt really disappointed with him/her.
I...........
Even a 3-year old child knows that when something is bad, he must not offer it to anyone else. This is what I called: Consideration and Kindness.
We make mistakes and we learn from them. Seriously, its alright. Dun ever worry about admitting these mistakes.
My dearest pals in Belair, be brave and move on. Nothing is over yet. Nothing changes at all while you are still in Belair. Everything is still the same.
1)Worrying that you may not be able to clear your debts? Only by staying in Belair can help you clear these debts?
The truth is: How much have you earned in Belair? Or should I say, how often has your uplines asked you to fork out extra money to buy your last count to challenge or to complete your challenge? ...... in deep debts because of this cause WE ARE THE ONES who listened and trusted them.
2)Worrying that your family members and friends will jeer at you when you leave Belair?
The truth is: Haha.. that's nonsense thinking! Your real family and frens will never use this to mock at you. But nevertheless, of course there may be some sarcastic ones. But the thing is, WHO CARES? Tell you frankly, most of our family members will actually feel relieve you finally make up your mind to leave. Its just that they do not want to express how they feel cause they thought that by telling you their honest views, or they might affect you and your 'career' in Belair. So, these very supportive parents and family of ours, will rather keep quiet and pretended that everything is alright. You are actually 'Releasing' them from all the worries and stress by coming up with a GOOD decision.
3) Worrying what will happen to your uplines and downlines when you leave?
The truth is: Maybe they are like you, already start to have hesitations about Belair. Do you think they will stop if you leave?Haha.. ....... These 'new' people you are recruiting does not own tons of ten thousands to spare. They themselves will have to borrow from banks, frens and family to get into this. This will be endless, so please do not do that.
4)Worrying that you may not be able to find a good job as the market is rather competitive nowadays?
The truth is: Market nowdays is indeed very competitive and good jobs are hard to come by. But are you truely afraid or its just the ego of yours playing tricks on you again? Money is all around us. There is no high or low class jobs. As long as its a honest job that can give us a peaceful and stressful mind, why not go for it for the time being and keep a look-out for a better one?
NO WORRIES!
[b]Belair has trained us well and tough. Nothing outside will be too difficult for us to conquer. We have learned to be determined and strong willed so overcoming obstacles will definitely be not of any problem.
If you have decided to give yourself and start afresh again, here are some tips:
Tip 1: Look in your classified ad section again. (See.. there are so many available great job offers.) Go to Jobs DB website too.... Start preparing your resume and fly it to every job that you think may suit you. Start calling and emailing now! You sure will have no problems with the interviews!
Tip 2: Cancel all your credit cards and call the banks for assistance. Assure them that you really want to clear off the debts that you have owed them and ask for a good instalment plan to clear it. (I did this and the bank gave me a good plan and even a great discount for the debts! 2 more months to clear them and I am free!)
Tip 3: Try to reduce your monthly expenses. If you have any existing internet or SCV services and the contract is already over, cancel them. If you have any cars, stop trying to afford them.
Tip4: Draw out a good debts clearing plan.
For instance;
you are earning $2.5 k monthly, you can use $1.5K to clear your debts.
Tip5: Have good time management.
If you do not earn enough cash to survive, then do domething! I am holding 2 jobs currently but I still can have 1 weekend off!
Who says you have to slog very hard to pay off your debts?
And last but not least, be true to yourself. That is really very important. Do not pretend to be strong if you really cannot take it. I know its really hard when you are already having a $10+K or even a $100K debt to bear at such a young age. I never said that clearing debts is easy, BUT IT CAN BE DONE. Dun ever give up trying to do that. Frens are always around you. Seek advices from them. I have faith that you be able to cross this hurdle. Jia you, Friend![/b][/b] Clapped..........clapped 
Wow... that what we had learned / gained from it & motivation classes that the prices / money we had spent on it!!! -
The Place to be
Is no longer what it seems
Once filled with Warmth
Now filled with Greed
Messing up Families and Lives indeed
Roar, the 2 tigers growl
Everyone shivers with fear
Once a Knight
Became a Soldier overnight
However, Lion & Lioness still lead
Tigers bow to them whenever in need
Four of them together
The ground shook harder
Five by Five they recruited
Thousands and Thousands they commissioned
One by One retreated
Each and everyone suffered
What is the way of Life?
ALL covered with Lies
What is the Path to Wealth?
Suffer each day like Hell
How do we make you all understand?
We do not wish to make a stand
By all ways you try to hunt
We will not Run
Together they unite, Together we Stand
...........We're till the END! -
Hi, all
This is my first post, was very sad with the fact that they cheated us so much money but we just can't do anthing but to express our feelings here.
Still paying back all my loan by instalments and throw a lot of products today cos some have expired like zen series....
Met 1 so called "Marquis" today, she is working as a part time cashier, and as i knew, there is another few marquis left AAA from my group......they told others they have their own family problems, so they stopped. why are they so selfish? why not they tell their downline the truth............how can you still leave them there?
Think there is one M called Y.Gen, a china man, he has a whole group of construction workers downline but he quitted and went back to china without telling his downline the truth. so the downlines are still fighting inside. was sad when i saw his downline cheating people in suntec last week. (they thought he went back to develop new market..................cheating!)
Can you imagine, these people took loan from china to work at construction site here, then they took loan again to join your "system" in sg, now they are having lots of debts..............some even quited their job..............hai..........how long do you want them to suffer?
Under Mike, think they are a few more Marquis, Z.Wei, K.Xuan, T.mas, where are you guys? some left, some find a job, some be quiet now.....????? why, if the marquis are earing that much, why? why? so
PLS DUN JOIN THEM, DUN BE CHEATED, I DUN WANT TO SEE ANY MORE VICTIMS..................
PLs,, can someone ask their media friend to read the forum, let it expose............................pls...........
media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members??????
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I would like to thank Sabelli for starting this thread .
I would like to thank all who contributed to this forum including those who have edited their posts.
So sorry i have not mange to get the photo of the Arch Duke .( LET IT BE do you have the photo , can email me so i can upload the photo , everyone pls help to find n email me i will upload it)
Let's all help to Pay It Forward by causing awareness
Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt . I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
We are in debts, company owes us money but they push to our uplines. We need money to survive.
Our friends have left us because of us joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.
We had cut counts, marquis n dukes. We are in debts
WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!
media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members?????? can help
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc.... -
I joined Belair, wanting to give my family a better life. Instead I brought them pain.
I joined Belair, hoping to give my gf a better life, but now I am afraid I have nothing to give her.
I joined Belair, with big dreams. But I left with huge debts.
When I left, I've never regreted my decision to leave. My only regret was falling for this scam. A scam that has destroyed my life.
Every morning I awake with a pain in my heart... The pain of knowing that all my dreams have shattered.
To those still in Belair, its time to wake up. Let the nightmare end right here right now... I don't wish this nightmare upon anyone else, not even when I need the money. I will use my own 2 hands to earn my money... never ever will I have the heart to earn money like this. You are selfish b*****ds, someday I hope you get your just desserts.
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To all of us who has been through this painful phase, I'm glad to read how many of you has picked yourself up... Would love to catch up with you guys soon.
Never once have I regreted leaving BA... never even once.
To all, please spread the message. I don't wish to know another innocent party being destroyed.. into yet another tortured soul.. -
Long Long time ago... in the southern province of china, got 1 person called wu SONG....Originally posted by xXo-oXx:The Place to be
Is no longer what it seems
Once filled with Warmth
Now filled with Greed
Messing up Families and Lives indeed
Roar, the 2 tigers growl
Everyone shivers with fear
Once a Knight
Became a Soldier overnight
However, Lion & Lioness still lead
Tigers bow to them whenever in need
Four of them together
The ground shook harder
Five by Five they recruited
Thousands and Thousands they commissioned
One by One retreated
Each and everyone suffered
What is the way of Life?
ALL covered with Lies
What is the Path to Wealth?
Suffer each day like Hell
How do we make you all understand?
We do not wish to make a stand
By all ways you try to hunt
We will not Run
Together they unite, Together we Stand
...........We're till the END!
It was said that wu SONG killed the tiger... But... did wu SONG really killed that tiger? Or did wu SONG LIED?
aiyoh... ah SONG ar.... ah SONG ar.... -
Hmm...maybe those who left can share why n how did u all 'wake up' from ba ?
What or who make u all realise that u are doing the wrong thing?
Pls share it and help those inside who came to read this forum make the right choice !!! -
I am backOriginally posted by Enraged:Hmm...maybe those who left can share why n how did u all 'wake up' from ba ?
What or who make u all realise that u are doing the wrong thing?
Pls share it and help those inside who came to read this forum make the right choice !!! . Want to thank all the people for putting their experience in BA into writing in this thread. What's important when you fall is to stand up, and do not lie on the ground for people to step on you. For that, I think those that landed in debts but working hard to clear, 3 cheers for you.
Hip Hip Horray! Hip Hip Horray! Hip Hip Horrrraaaayyyy
Tell you how I realise Bel' Air is a wrong thing to happen.
During one of their presentations at HHH, I asked one Marquis 2 questions.
- 'If I join, I have to ask other people to join and cut count too? Doesnt it mean that we need to endlessly recruit people to get a $xxxxx income? That means we have to recruit an infinite number of people so everyone can succeed?'
- 'Where do all the income come from? If you are not doing active selling, and claims that you are forming the net and harvesting the fruits of your work later, doesnt it mean that most of the lowest downlines are broke or indebted?'
She told me to trust in the system and that it will work.
I am stupid enough to try the Bel' Air experience, just to see how 'wonderful' it was. Now then I found it is mostly isopropanol in that thing. When they opened it on the spot, the two 4litres bottles, I realize something was not right. What they claim as teaching me on how to use it, was actually to open it so that the products cannot be refunded!!!
After her 'solid' answer and her 'teaching' me (of how to pour liquid into a container, ) I realize that there is more to this that they are hiding. They congratulate me on being in their team, but I could tell that most of them are faking a smile.
I went home that night, thought about it for awhile, and the next moring told my introducer that I will not join Bel 'Air, and will settle the payment of the "Bel' Air Experience" with her alone, not at Commonwealth or HHH. Seems kind of ironic now, the "Bel' Air" experience, nice name for my experience.
When I see what the other forumers who posted their experience at Bel' Air, I am glad for everyone who woke up from the false reality that FGN/AAA is putting.
Please, people who read this thread and are in Bel' Air. Do not get your friends, family or relatives into debts just to clear your own. The system will not work!!!Stop sleeping smelling the Green Tea aromatherapy diffuser. Wake up and smell the coffee. -
Let me share how i woke up from the nightmare
(1) You must let them listening to your phone conversation between you and your friend
(2) Why all the successful upline leave the place? only new member and old old member are still inside. where are those in between?
(3) They treat us as as idiot. They told us to be simple, simple and simple. They control our life. We can't go home earlier, we must attend everyday, we must go there everyday. Some time, upline will call us to rush down even though they knew they will leave after you reach for 5min. (just want your appearance there only, to let freshmen see that your group are so strong)
(4)The speech by speakers are getting worse. They exaggerate a lot of things which are not true......like " i apply the oil for 1 day, my 10 year wound scar was hardly seen", then they will say, is up to you if you believe, but that's true.............., everyone who stays below the stage will agree to make you agree...........do you think we are idiot
(5) During the Hui Hou Hui, Actually everything are planned. Like a few months ago, a new potential Huo Ban bring her mum here.........In order to cheap her mum, they "randomly" chose a few person to answer interview by speakers.....................surprisingly, they all said that they joined b'cos they want to let their parents to retire, their dreams are to fulfil their parents' dream, ..........but i saw that they are told to say so before the Hui Hou Hui. .............just to cheat the parents of potential customer ..................Cheap Cheap Cheap and Disgusting.......
(6) Lastly, This is most important!
They forced my potential Customer to sell car, to take loan from insurance, relative and ..... even though they knew that he need earnings to support his family.........how cruel they are! They even asked potential huoban to keep it from his parents, dun let his parents know................. HOW BAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
SO, I WOKED UP....................I JUST CAN'T STAND THE WAY THEY CHEAT OTHERS.................. -
Belair agents...
bloody cheats.
period.
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Hey there everyone
Good job everyone, continue to reveal rotten details about the world inside Bel'Air I believe that there's justice for everyone of you people victims here one fine day Jiayou me friends...
There's a question which's been pondering inside me head for quite some time after reading this thread. Why didnt anyone have the courage to report all these to the Commercial Affairs Department? No doubt that this is purely a pyramid scheme and those who're innocently involved'll be dealt with too for being involved in such a scheme. But I feel that it'll be right if this is brought up there and justice be justified.
Why dont those CAD officers just send a officer-in-disguise down there to have a look themselves? Bel'Air may be able to cover it with their products. But one certainly has to go there and see for themselves. If CAD's really dedicated to serve our nation, the more they should have the extra mile to help you guys.
Cheers everyone and congratulations to those who're out from the Bel'Air nightmare. As of last night when I pass through Haw Par Technocentre to peek at what they're doing inside (it can be seen from outside from a distance actually), I still see those sickening people posing around.
I've tried this. Whenever I just stand there to observe them, one of those in blazers and another downlines of his (the latter doesnt have the blazer on) stood in front of the panel 'Bel'Air PARIS' and raise their hands high at it as though... they are worshipping God. It's almost the same.
I dont belong to any religion but I feel that it's a blasphemy to see someone worshipping a company name like God. It's like you're worshipping an idol - some more, an idol who does damage everyday until now.
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To those Bel'Air idiots who're still enjoying yourselves sucking up money of your downlines inside:
You people watch it. Apparently I've heard about you people using threats on your downlines who've posted their plights here because of you people victimising them. Dont think that by doing so, you people'll get anywhere. Engaging your lawyers may not be of any use because at the end of the day, if your downlines were to say that you people've sucked up their money. Surely, the company accounts will be checked. And surely, we'll know by the end of the whole journey who'll get the last laugh.
Just make sure that you dont be the next NKF.
To those downlines who're still struggling inside, get yourselves out of there. No point staying inside when you can've a better life outside. I always believe that those multi-level marketeers at the top're dividers of the income gaps.
They boast off their income, change cars every now and then, share their success as though Bel'Air is their god etc, but there're still people down there who're struggling like mad to earn their livings, even people commit suicide because they think that they're useless not being able to provide income for their family.
Really. What's the point of staying inside when you're still going to settle your debts someday? Get yourself out of there, get yourself a decent job no matter how low the pay may be and get your debts settled. No point staying inside and find that you're still bleeding profusely. The wounds wont heal until you've found a proper way to heal it.
Gambatte guys. I've not been a victim myself, neither was I inside any MLM company but I share you people's plight because I myself's from a low-income family.
REMEMBER THAT BIG BEL'AIR PARIS SIGNBOARD POSITIONED OUTSIDE HAW PAR TECHNOCENTRE, JUST BESIDE FAITH METHODIST CHURCH AND VERY NEAR COMMONWEALTH MRT. -
TIB744U
Aiya want to sue , sue lor , so easy to sue , all forumers kana sue liao lor.
You people watch it. Apparently I've heard about you people using threats on your downlines who've posted their plights here because of you people victimising them. Dont think that by doing so, you people'll get anywhere. Engaging your lawyers may not be of any use because at the end of the day, if your downlines were to say that you people've sucked up their money. Surely, the company accounts will be checked. And surely, we'll know by the end of the whole journey who'll get the last laugh.
Aiya i volunteer kana sue first lah .
Wha just imagine hor all forumers kana sue good man 'Belair probe start loh'
fganti and antiFGN contact me n related to me how they ' lawyer ' you , i got lobang to 'lawyer' lobang them back .
Y am i still sharing my experince because Paying It Forward is not about 1 day,1wk ,1mth, 1 yr . I will be here to refresh my experince hoping that there will be 1 soul less to work extra1,2,3 jobs for 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,years to paid back his debt .
So pls all forumers pls pls do refresh your experience weekly ,monthly(some of them who did not JOIN after reading the forum i could feel their sense of relieve n happynessssssss) I just hope someone can hear our voices. Voices of victims.
Our friends have left us because of us joining bel`air, our love ones has quarrel with us because of bel`air - leading to some have even broken up, our family has torn apart because of bel`air.
WE ARE DESPERATE FOR HELP!
media corp? wan pao? strait times? new paper? or any Parliament members?????? can help
Forumers are just relating their experience n including other info to cause awareness to saved another SOUL.
(Pls help to cause awareness by spreading this msg- Pay It Forward)www.sgforums.com >look for navigation >Top Forums > scroll dowm look for MLM n look for bel'air
What i did was sending msgssssssss -- HP , email , msn, Posters , notice board etc.... -
Was reading n saw this pls read BY FlowerSand on 16 June 2006 · 01:04 AM
Ok, let's face the fact.
A few more thread to read before u join
goto www.acra.gov.sg that's where u can register a company.
What kind of company, ok , we call it MLM.
What about the products u have for your company?
The usual way of doing is to import a container of so call 'unique item' that singapore dun have, then say its good and good and say you got the best compensation plan.
People join, people recruit.
Lets all face it.
The top leader in MLM doesn't sell anything, they just give seminar and training. The ppl or downline learns to be a leader and trains other.
Where the money comes from??
Ya, from the product...
Who buys?
You and the downline.
Yes, ppl can buy the product without joining the company,
but the product is of very low price and has a high margin markup coz
the company needs to profitable, and the $ paid to the leaders.
Ok, if you really want that product, you fly oversea to get or maybe order from www.ebay.com for a cheaper one
SO before u join MLM,
think again
OK ok, never mind the MLM company background is good and product is really good. But beware coz a good product always has competitor and market share. Even if the company manufacture the product, yes i agreed that it can be unique but it still face competition from the normal supply demand chain.
Its not a point whether the product is unique, comsumable, price competitive or whatsoever, the product must bring value-for-money to the consumers.
Dun waste so much time in attending lectures or having your weekend burn for a year or 2 and give up, do something more meaningful
SO before u join MLM,
think again
To add on, what happens? If a grad joins full-time MLM but his/her profession is doctor/engineer, wouldn't it our economy shortage of these positions?
If university grads this year is 100%, and of these 50% choose to do full time MLM instead of relevant job/career vacacies, what will happen to the economy then? Will we face a shortfall in talents? and if those 50% of those grads, only 2% of the 50% succeeded and the rest choose to return to work what will happen then? those who return actually lack behind their peers already...
What about those who succeeded? Yes, SLK, CLK, BMW
Earn $10K Spend $10K, its no better. What happen what the downline reform and leaves or the company change name? (The company change name very often to hid their previous bad-mouthing who had left, check the ACRA you will know whether a company has rename its company name) When a company renames, usually the downline under u leaves, leader also leave.
Those who has succeeded is back to square one.
Who is the future then?
SO before u join MLM,
think again
If you want to join, can also. No problem, but but but dun pay any cash to the company, try know more about its product and sell to those ppl you dun know.
See what's the feedback. Ya, ya,ya they will say you need commitment or even if you start a biz like MLM you need capital or you need to buy the product to see how good it is so that you're confident and sell more and earn more... bull !^@!. Does a Merz Sales man own a Merz 350? Does the property agent who sell the condominium owns one at orchard? ya,ya,ya dun say its different coz they doing sales and its MLM. Come on, face the facts, a company need sales to be sustainable if not wind-down already. MLM also is a biz under a company, so what do u think?
Even for new startup, ya, join now the pioneer old startup join later then small fry, if they really say it this way, walk away coz there is really no such thing under MLM concept
If you want to join, dun pay a single cent first for the product or to be what down or upline. see if the company still runs good for 6 months. If a lot of new faces every month, then walk away.
SO before u join MLM,
think again
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