CAD officially investigates NTI and EGA
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evading againOriginally posted by emcom:You have not answer to my question!
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same old lau..Originally posted by laurence82:evading again
any other takers.. -
well look i am not sure how long SE agents are going to evade questions or flame in desperate attempts to steer away
so i guess the rest of the forumers want to continue to add questions or issues...although chances are they might not be answered...? -
I had been asking for the question and issue but to be evade n being brush away.
Forget it if you dare not even willingly to have a properly conversation here. Thats the way how you are able to stick ard here so long with nothing much to say but "evade".. -
like i said, if you had conscientiously follow through your posts, we need not come to hereOriginally posted by emcom:I had been asking for the question and issue but to be evade n being brush away.
Forget it if you dare not even willingly to have a properly conversation here. Thats the way how you are able to stick ard here so long with nothing much to say but "evade"..
before this round, which focuses on personal conduct, go look at the issues raised since you first enter here
the major issue before then was on income tax statement
how brilliant of you not to recognise this -
I do read that. But as mention, in future, if SE ppl didnt want to prove their income tax here, then dun mention how well they earn. Bec these anti SE ppl got nothing much to pin point on SE, and have to resort to forcing ppl to post their income tax online. (So i just hope future SE ppl who wanna tell forumers on sgforum how much who and who earns to provide proof, else dun mention. You know how much you earn, I know how much I earn. You can tell other people how much who and who earn but nv post on sgforum.Originally posted by laurence82:like i said, if you had conscientiously follow through your posts, we need not come to here
before this round, which focuses on personal conduct, go look at the issues raised since you first enter here
the major issue before then was on income tax statement
how brilliant of you not to recognise this
) - lau so isit fair enough?
As for personal conducts, you guys always like to say no one can represent SE, bec we are so call independant affiliates. So those ppl just speaks for their own personal character, and if they mis interpret, they hold their own responsibility. -
First point is bloody twistingOriginally posted by emcom:I do read that. But as mention, in future, if SE ppl didnt want to prove their income tax here, then dun mention how well they earn. Bec these anti SE ppl got nothing much to pin point on SE, and have to resort to forcing ppl to post their income tax online. (So i just hope future SE ppl who wanna tell forumers on sgforum how much who and who earns to provide proof, else dun mention. You know how much you earn, I know how much I earn. You can tell other people how much who and who earn but nv post on sgforum. ) - lau so isit fair enough?
As for personal conducts, you guys always like to say no one can represent SE, bec we are so call independant affiliates. So those ppl just speaks for their own personal character, and if they mis interpret, they hold their own responsibility.
if you cant prove or dont want to prove, you pin the blame on anti SE peeps pinpointing SE and forcing people to post income tax online?
sheesh, where has professionalism gone to? you have to prove because its your onus and duty to do so when you market your scheme, people have to 'force' simply because you guys are damn evasive and yet want to boast your income
by your first para you insinuated that anti SE people resorted to forcing because they got nuthing much to pin point
how cleverly you twisted the point to push the blame on others
where is ur sense of self responsibility?
unlike SE, other companies can take their agents to task for misrepresenting their company, fake or not
which SE agent so far do it? as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here
pls dont cry 'black sheep' when you guys show no action at all -
Hey laurence82, why not you post your income tax here for everyone to see first before asking *emcom* to post.Originally posted by laurence82:First point is bloody twisting
if you cant prove or dont want to prove, you pin the blame on anti SE peeps pinpointing SE and forcing people to post income tax online?
sheesh, where has professionalism gone to? you have to prove because its your onus and duty to do so when you market your scheme, people have to 'force' simply because you guys are damn evasive and yet want to boast your income
by your first para you insinuated that anti SE people resorted to forcing because they got nuthing much to pin point
how cleverly you twisted the point to push the blame on others
where is ur sense of self responsibility?
unlike SE, other companies can take their agents to task for misrepresenting their company, fake or not
which SE agent so far do it? as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here
pls dont cry 'black sheep' when you guys show no action at all -
Im not the person who want to prove how much my income here. Its a fact, that mlmer use earning as a bench mark of how well that person have done, just tat since you guys wanted so badly the income tax that they didnt want to post. So there is not other ways but to hope SE ppl dun mention that point. This is not evading, so i also aggre if they cant prove in future, pls dun mention.Originally posted by laurence82:First point is bloody twisting
if you cant prove or dont want to prove, you pin the blame on anti SE peeps pinpointing SE and forcing people to post income tax online?
sheesh, where has professionalism gone to? you have to prove because its your onus and duty to do so when you market your scheme, people have to 'force' simply because you guys are damn evasive and yet want to boast your income
by your first para you insinuated that anti SE people resorted to forcing because they got nuthing much to pin point
how cleverly you twisted the point to push the blame on others
where is ur sense of self responsibility?
unlike SE, other companies can take their agents to task for misrepresenting their company, fake or not
which SE agent so far do it? as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here
pls dont cry 'black sheep' when you guys show no action at all
Its my duty to prove if I wan to market to ppl here, but not obligate to prove to you, bec I had no intention to prospect you or anyone in this forum.
prove this sentence "as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here" -
Bro, its not a matter of posting income tax la.. he got nothing to prove, I also didnt want to prove to him..Originally posted by outsider_84:Hey laurence82, why not you post your income tax here for everyone to see first before asking *emcom* to post. -
which part says i ask emcom to post?Originally posted by outsider_84:Hey laurence82, why not you post your income tax here for everyone to see first before asking *emcom* to post.
he aint the one boasting
duh -
the word 'you' is used generally, since you never boast, why should you be even replying from this perspective?Originally posted by emcom:Im not the person who want to prove how much my income here. Its a fact, that mlmer use earning as a bench mark of how well that person have done, just tat since you guys wanted so badly the income tax that they didnt want to post. So there is not other ways but to hope SE ppl dun mention that point. This is not evading, so i also aggre if they cant prove in future, pls dun mention.
Its my duty to prove if I wan to market to ppl here, but not obligate to prove to you, bec I had no intention to prospect you or anyone in this forum.
prove this sentence "as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here"
an mlmer used earning as a benchmark of how well the person has done? does this mean this income need not be shown to people to show how well one could succeed in this scheme?
again, like i said, dont push the blame to the opposite parties by insinuating that we are the guys who wanted income tax statement badly
like i said, the onus should be on the guys who boast about his income, his upline income or the company earnings
whether or not the opposite parties push is irrelevant to the issue
of course you wouldnt want to prospect to me, i am not sure whether you are even fully informed about your company and its schemes enough to be capable to gain prospects who are not easily misled by this tomfoolery
and for your last line, you talked about black sheeps previously, may i know if you have taken any errant black sheep to task? this answer your question, because you cant be talking abt black sheeps and not have taken them to task, bur rather focused on otusiders like me
this is the contradictory part of your stance -
i dont have duty to prove, coz i am not marketing anythingOriginally posted by emcom:Bro, its not a matter of posting income tax la.. he got nothing to prove, I also didnt want to prove to him..
you guys, even christopher rf always like evade this issue
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When u ask me a question, n u demand for a reply. When I ask you, you just skip it.. so selectively in answering my question?? U urself contradict your own way of speaking.Originally posted by laurence82:the word 'you' is used generally, since you never boast, why should you be even replying from this perspective?
an mlmer used earning as a benchmark of how well the person has done? does this mean this income need not be shown to people to show how well one could succeed in this scheme?
again, like i said, dont push the blame to the opposite parties by insinuating that we are the guys who wanted income tax statement badly
like i said, the onus should be on the guys who boast about his income, his upline income or the company earnings
whether or not the opposite parties push is irrelevant to the issue
of course you wouldnt want to prospect to me, i am not sure whether you are even fully informed about your company and its schemes enough to be capable to gain prospects who are not easily misled by this tomfoolery
and for your last line, you talked about black sheeps previously, may i know if you have taken any errant black sheep to task? this answer your question, because you cant be talking abt black sheeps and not have taken them to task, bur rather focused on otusiders like me
this is the contradictory part of your stance
Stop saying what i say its irrelevant when you urself are making irrelevant comments.
Whether Im sure of the whole company and its schemes and enough for me to prospect anyone is also not of your concern.
And for black sheep issue, it not up to me to take any action. You really think I own SE ar... This is a problem with ur mindcept. -
It is irrelevant because i can point out WHY...can you?Originally posted by emcom:When u ask me a question, n u demand for a reply. When I ask you, you just skip it.. so selectively in answering my question?? U urself contradict your own way of speaking.
Stop saying what i say its irrelevant when you urself are making irrelevant comments.
Whether Im sure of the whole company and its schemes and enough for me to prospect anyone is also not of your concern.
And for black sheep issue, it not up to me to take any action. You really think I own SE ar... This is a problem with ur mindcept.
Which part selective?
Of course its not my concern, but i can bet on it so i make such a statement, given the level of evasive tactics -
tats what u skip... -> prove this sentence "as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here"Originally posted by laurence82:It is irrelevant because i can point out WHY...can you?
Which part selective?
Of course its not my concern, but i can bet on it so i make such a statement, given the level of evasive tactics
1st ur persistant n keep hanging the issue of income tax as a major problem.. which even some of SE ppl mention, dun mention it since they didnt wan to show their income tax statement here, yet you keep on n on.. it comes irrelevant. you can keep on press for the issue for the next 10 yrs...
2nd whatever we said u want us to prove it, then what ever you said abt us can you proof it in black n white? Dun just give a soft comment, "from this reply i say SE is that, from this reply SE is what" - > (all this are just ur personal view on the issue. It does not reflect as a whole.) -
i answered thatOriginally posted by emcom:tats what u skip... -> prove this sentence "as long as a person is perceived to be against SE, you guys hantam him instead of your errant agent online here"
1st ur persistant n keep hanging the issue of income tax as a major problem.. which even some of SE ppl mention, dun mention it since they didnt wan to show their income tax statement here, yet you keep on n on.. it comes irrelevant. you can keep on press for the issue for the next 10 yrs...
2nd whatever we said u want use to prove it, then what ever you said abt us can you proof it in black n white? Dun just a soft comment, "from this reply i say SE is that, from this reply SE is what" - > (all this are just ur personal view on the issue. It does not reflect as a whole.)
go just a notch back and read what i said about black sheeps
you skipped this and concluded by saying i was selective?
typical
sorry, income wasnt the major problem..it is one of the major problems with SE
again, you totally missed what i said, for the second third time today about having duty to prove
am i the one boasting my income? -
You skip my question for the 2nd time today. If u demand i reply every single of your question, i expect the same from you.Originally posted by laurence82:i answered that
go just a notch back and read what i said about black sheeps
you skipped this and concluded by saying i was selective?
typical
sorry, income wasnt the major problem..it is one of the major problems with SE
again, you totally missed what i said, for the second third time today about having duty to prove
am i the one boasting my income?
Is there a problem with ur vision?
Since when i ask you to prove your income? -
because i answered it, and you skipped itOriginally posted by emcom:You skip my question for the 2nd time today. If u demand i reply every single of your question, i expect the same from you.
Is there a problem with ur vision?
Since when i ask you to prove your income?
proving income is an example, if you want proof, you got to have the duty to do so, which i have been saying..currently for the fourth time -
If thats ur answer, then i had long reply ur question.Originally posted by laurence82:because i answered it, and you skipped it
proving income is an example, if you want proof, you got to have the duty to do so, which i have been saying..currently for the fourth time
If I wana proof what? This is the multiple times i reply to you and you keep missing it? -
not realliOriginally posted by emcom:If thats ur answer, then i had long reply ur question.
If I wana proof what? This is the multiple times i reply to you and you keep missing it?
what u replied to response to my replies on black sheeps?
if you have black sheeps, why dont you take them to task instead of focusing on outsiders first?
hence, i have grounds to say you are just hantaming outsiders, rather than spending bit more time on people whom u merely said are black sheeps
looks more like you dotn care about errant agents -
u asking me question you asking yourself?Originally posted by emcom:If I wana proof what? This is the multiple times i reply to you and you keep missing it?
weird -
as usual...
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so how? not replying to my response?
simple mah, if you say they black sheeps but chose not to take them to task, i am justified in saying yo uare only hantaming any non se agent who dont have something positive to say about ur company -
Since when do I hantaming any non se ppl? Thats flaming + accusing me doing something i had not done.Originally posted by laurence82:so how? not replying to my response?
simple mah, if you say they black sheeps but chose not to take them to task, i am justified in saying yo uare only hantaming any non se agent who dont have something positive to say about ur company
Nothing else to talk against me now have to resort to accuse me?
Better put some effort on some more constructive, then pointing fingers at me.