New MLM company-M.I.T
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Well, I'm all ears for reason but apparently your over dose of emotions-if that's what they call profanities nowadays-has exhibited your zeal and that raises one big question, is this the way you voice your doubts? If so, i really ponder about how you present yourself to your clients or could it be that your whatever shrine of a company teaches you to do it this way?
Something that struck me strange about this company is that they do not possess any documents about their products which they suggest you must pay first so that you can attest for it's quality which is their form of advertisement. But the oddity is that they insist on not selling the product but instead selling this 'strange alien business' concept which they cannot put into words. The one who presented his case said this :
Me : What Business Concept are you talking about?
Priest : Business Concept LAH!
Wow! I must profess that the details are so intricately fine one will find it amazing! Anyway, why is it that clients or should i say potential worshippers must go down to the COMPANY for the presentations? I mean if this is to show off the cathedral, sorry amigo it didn't work for me. But anyway, I think that a coffee stop would suffice for that kinda stuff.
One more thing, what's wrong with the other colours? Why is it only black suits? Mourning the loss of something?
Once again, I'm looking forward to the forthcoming posts especially that of a certain uncouth and crude person i shall not insinuate any further.
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Nice diction and articulation....
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"First they ignore us, then they laugh at us and finally they listen to us "
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"First they ignore us, then they laugh at us and finally they listen to us and in the end, they die with us "
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Is that infringement of copyright?
Originality people!!! Originality!!!
Lol
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Hi aswanderers,
You wrote very well about what you think of NTI and also how you appreciate WBG education and culture system but have you ever thought it also applies to yourself as for what you think of NTI distributors. I have studied WBG for more than 2 years.
a) I know they use an education and culture system to camourflouge the whole pyramid scam, yes I consider WBG a big pyramid scam for some reasons below. Nowadays most MLM that do not sell value for money products will use "culture".
b) The first few food supplements that WBG sells do NOT show their manufacturer names on the label !! They will tell you that was because of "trade and technology secrets". This is bullshit !! They will tell you the ingredients, the technology, the manufacturing are all from 3 different countries around the world but packed in Singapore. It only showed that the stuffs are not reliable !!
c) Later when less people believe in the heathfood, they brought in negative ions bed pads. Mind you, those electrical bed pads do as much bad to your body as it can do good and the cost is very very cheap, it's just an electric wire that does the effect, nothing else. A good bed pad that can produce negative ions effect do NOT need electricity now, and can do the same demonstration effect for the cigarettes, lemon juice, sauce, etc. Live electricity is no good for the body ! Their selling price are very very cheap in Korea too.
d) The "body stretching" was a trick many companies used before, you don't need anything to do that trick. By using such trick, you know the integrity of the Company and the people behind it. Using tricks don't last, Asayo used that trick many years ago, where are they now ?
e) Late last year, WBG made a big hoohaa opening in Malaysia but now, they claim that they have been "cheated" by others on the direct-selling license for having bought a fake one ! In the first place, many see it as a trick again. Why in the first place they don't apply for a legitimate license themselves ? Some say the actual fact was the government suspended their busines on the products background. They gave the "fake license" excuse to the distributors.
Please ask your top management this : whether it was true that 2 of their items are manufactured in Malaysia by this scoundrel by the name of Steven Lai(his GMP factory was suspended and closed due to manufacturing products same as the "slimten" 2 years plus ago. Apparently, WBG now claims that their license in Malaysia was "arranged" by this Steven Lai and cheated by him. Well, I will say they are both crooks !
Well, i think the above are enough to make you or anyone consider carefully on this company. I suggest you do not put do much effort. I have seen many of their earlier distributors earning themselves very bad image and reputation from friends. -
Hi Experienced,
You may be interested with Healthwise bed pads, quite similar to WBG type but WITHOUT any electricity used and yet can do all the demonstrations that WBG did INSTANT effect. Besides minus ions, they also have bio-magnetism, BAE(bio-activated energy) and FIR, using the lates NANOtechnolgy.
There will be participating in the Holistic living spring festival at Fort Canning Centre (8-9 May 10am ~ 9pm) featuring healthcare products and methods with over more than 60 stalls participating.There are also free workshops and performances.
HEALTHWISE will be participating at stall 22. Don't miss out on this event!
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Experienced, you sound like one who got burnt and bruised.
Well, i would jus like to add that MLM's still pretty shaky and FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WORD dubious..
There are those who got cash out of it and those who got screwed by it, just get hold of the stats of losers over winners and that will answer my question.
As for professionals joining MLMs, i guess i can only say that anyone can declare that they are doctors, lawyers and engineers..
That's just my thought, i dun require over zealous, aggressive replies, just constructive criticism so as to remove my preconceptions about MLMs -
Experienced, you sound like one who got burnt and bruised.
Well, i would jus like to add that MLM's still pretty shaky and FOR A LACK OF A BETTER WORD dubious..
There are those who got cash out of it and those who got screwed by it, just get hold of the stats of losers over winners and that will answer my question.
As for professionals joining MLMs, i guess i can only say that anyone can declare that they are doctors, lawyers and engineers..
That's just my thought, i dun require over zealous, aggressive replies, just constructive criticism so as to remove my preconceptions about MLMs -
nti rocks man. you can make so much money for yourself, make even more money for J.P, have all your friends boycott you and make many new like-minded friends in the company. what are you waiting for? join nti today. don't be a fool, be successful.
friends of nti, please do not tell me why i'm wrong, tell me why you think you're right. would much appreciate your diplomatic feedback. -
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last tues i went to their so called bip course (buisness intro program). they presenter say until like so real can earn 20k+ usd in per mth. really lots of clapping n pushy marketing . they tried to convinced me to open an acc but i sae i wanna go home n think, den he sae awt binary system can earn lots of money.... haiz my frenz open 3 acc i hope tat tis nti isnt a scam.
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erm...got a few questions:
1) What does DSAS got to do with network marketing?
as in...direct selling and network marketing...if it were the same..y give it different terms then?
2) im nt from nti, but after see u all debating so much, juz one thing that popped into my mind... which co. is perfect? i sumtimes buy things from ntuc..i feel the price is nt fair too..though it claimed to be a fairprice thing.
3) i personally feel that its nt very fair to nti..
cos when u people is nt into the thing..u will never know how it is...
juz like..ur passion for sumthing..but then sumbody else juz simply cant understand and keep claiming that..hey, dun waste ur time on that..etc. nt sure whether u all can understand my point anot.
4) Why u all dun like the person James Phang so much? u all know him in person? -
You mean they told u it was a binary system? The person who tried to swindle me told me it's not binary when i queried him if it was a binary system. Hmmz..Wow..talk about blatant lying..Originally posted by RaTtY81:last tues i went to their so called bip course (buisness intro program). they presenter say until like so real can earn 20k+ usd in per mth. really lots of clapping n pushy marketing . they tried to convinced me to open an acc but i sae i wanna go home n think, den he sae awt binary system can earn lots of money.... haiz my frenz open 3 acc i hope tat tis nti isnt a scam. -
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heard from an agent that NTI has a law firms backing stating its legal or something..
the firm is : lee & lee, 5 SHENTON WAY #19-00 UIC BUILDING, S(06880
, tel: 62200666
[email protected]
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NTI is not what it seems, for those who think it's a scam, it is. Want evidence? PM me.
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Any company that is registered under ROC is consider legal. All companies have their legal backing but it does not include whether are they legal in MLM system or pyramid system. It also does not include how they run their own company and ethnics.Originally posted by Prodigy:heard from an agent that NTI has a law firms backing stating its legal or something..
the firm is : lee & lee, 5 SHENTON WAY #19-00 UIC BUILDING, S(06880, tel: 62200666
[email protected]
how do i confirm with the firm that NTI is legal or something?
You can call Lee& Lee to check what are the services they provide to NTI. For your info, most companies using this company will also inform you that it's a legal company related to Senior Minister Mr Lee K.Y.
However, this does not mean that the system or company culture, etc is legal or acceptable. For example, company A started and use the service and legal advices from them, however, what is happening in the company does not concern them, unless something happened or they get into some legal problems.
I hope dis helps.
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but wont the firm get into trouble too?
i'm quite confused..i want my friend out..and all he does is to evade some of my questions and came up with this law firm... -
mmm...looks like nobody seemed to be able to ans my ques........
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I realised that noone has answer ur qus.Originally posted by twinkle_stars:erm...got a few questions:
1) What does DSAS got to do with network marketing?
as in...direct selling and network marketing...if it were the same..y give it different terms then?
2) im nt from nti, but after see u all debating so much, juz one thing that popped into my mind... which co. is perfect? i sumtimes buy things from ntuc..i feel the price is nt fair too..though it claimed to be a fairprice thing.
3) i personally feel that its nt very fair to nti..
cos when u people is nt into the thing..u will never know how it is...
juz like..ur passion for sumthing..but then sumbody else juz simply cant understand and keep claiming that..hey, dun waste ur time on that..etc. nt sure whether u all can understand my point anot.
4) Why u all dun like the person James Phang so much? u all know him in person?
1) Just like Cats, there are different types. Direct Selling is only one of the network marketing models.
2) I'm in netural position. No one is perfect, i guess the only debate here is in which point of view do you look at? Do you just sell? recruit? Hard closing? Doing a salesman biz? or really doing a biz?
For consumer, nothing is cheap as they will want things to get cheaper, while on the other point of view, if you are doing a biz, you have your basic expenses to cover.
3) I believed you are fair and wanted to voice out. For me, I think some of them have been in it and while some of them are experienced MLM people, therefore they see it from point of view. Maybe can we stated that if someone tell you that selling luo han fish is nt a gd biz, will you care to look from their own point of view or will you still insist that yours is correct?
4) You got to know the person and from not just what he said but from all areas to understand. No one will say bad things of himself, right? Maybe look at the history. It'll be fair. Don't you think so? -
hehe...i know James Phang...he talked to me personally b4..tink his left eye's spoilt..can't rem which eye liaoz..i got his signature also...he shook my hand also..brought me to his office n show me his vcds...his performances at suntec..tink it's annual dinner..soemthing like that...so long liaoz...one year plus back ago liaoz...wonder how's ED's doing...the nti perfume's still hanging there ahz?...Btw...who has gone thru the LDC thing?
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Anyone can say their legal advisors are from lee and lee..Jus like one NTI fella told me he wants to be a PM by 40, and he said he wants to get 1million by 25 and he's 23 now.. I thought he was telling me a joke, but he looked so serious, i jus had to laugh..it's so damn hilarious when fools make such definitive statements..And if NTI helps him to be a PM, i guess i will set up a MLM company now and i can be the President of the US!!!Originally posted by Prodigy:but wont the firm get into trouble too?
i'm quite confused..i want my friend out..and all he does is to evade some of my questions and came up with this law firm...
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cannot quit NTI??? after you joined, your name (business centre) is there and you cant cancel it. and can only get refund 60 days after joining...
hes still not convince its a pyramid scheme...i cant outtalk him -
MLM is legal 'cept they call it Network Marketing bcos MLM sounds like a darn pyramid. Anyway, MLM is legalise but it borderlines on the Pyramid/MLM. And the companies that does MLM are covering the loopholes.
Like this money back in 60 days, it's not a pyramid because u can get refunded. Pyramid schemes have no refunds. But MLM companies are looking so nasty cos they dun talk abt their products and items. they just go on and on abt the amt of cash you will earn.
I went to NTI twice, was damn turned off cos each time I went the presenter was telling abt planning for the future and how pathetic i will earn if i dun join MLM. And thru out the whole aimless beating the bush session i din even had a glimpse of the product. How convincing can that bloody be?!??!!