New MLM company-M.I.T
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Shut yr CHEE BYE mouth up lah!!! YOU LIAR!!!Originally posted by I love BMW:heard of james phang motivational talk that need to pay money? really cannot make it leh... only youngster who dont really see the world, will pay such money to attend a low standard movtivational talk.. haiz... -
haha.. shutup lah.. enyouth agent. no standards. your boss didnt guide you well izzit?
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Man so many comments since my last comments. lolx
ok 1st ...ppl still in NTI ....Get out from there . if u all wan to see result on how NTI can make u suffer:
1) lose ya friends cos u kept asking them to join
2) not able to make $ and waste of time when u can get better job with mthly pay outside.
3) if u earn...great , but bear in mind u r earning thru ya friends $ , do u feel good abt it? ans is NO!!!!
4) James Phang talk are all craps, waste of time. i go listen to him 1 time onl andi i went hm halfway .
i can say so much becos i used to be in NTI . for those under age ppl get out as fast as possble. If u dun believe i used to be in NTI . ask them who is the winner in NDO 3. tk you. -
wat make u join in e 1st place...? if u dun believe it den how can u get into e champion of NDO....?Originally posted by emu_boy:Man so many comments since my last comments. lolx
ok 1st ...ppl still in NTI ....Get out from there . if u all wan to see result on how NTI can make u suffer:
1) lose ya friends cos u kept asking them to join
2) not able to make $ and waste of time when u can get better job with mthly pay outside.
3) if u earn...great , but bear in mind u r earning thru ya friends $ , do u feel good abt it? ans is NO!!!!
4) James Phang talk are all craps, waste of time. i go listen to him 1 time onl andi i went hm halfway .
i can say so much becos i used to be in NTI . for those under age ppl get out as fast as possble. If u dun believe i used to be in NTI . ask them who is the winner in NDO 3. tk you. -
I trust them 1st becos my upline oso my frz ask me to join.1st 3 mths they will ask u jia you and stuffs. then slowly u will die fm it. thats y i get champion on NDO 3. and after that i quit as i see no progress in this company. why hold on to a com[pany that is moving so slow. wait for thier car fund ... i tink 10 yrs later than get bmw. since i quit nti i get a motnhly job and i oos get the car i wan in just 6 mths. y waste time when cars coe is now so low.Originally posted by DrAlpha:wat make u join in e 1st place...? if u dun believe it den how can u get into e champion of NDO....? -
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Woo.. interesting... looks like I'm so many years late for the prom! There's so many discussions here about MLM. Am I too late to chip in some words now?
I'm an entrepreneur and naturally, the people around me owns companies too. Damn, we loathe MLM people so much. They look like clowns to us!
I share the same sentiments as some people here who would like to close companies such as NTI-Paris down. I would like to do that too man but only people with "Power", "Authority", "Connections" can play the chess game with these thugs.
Have you guys ever thought of signing petitions? What do u think.
Anyway regarding evidence (I din finish reading as theres too much postings haha. Read this sumwhere in-front), I tried gathering evidence too, to help my friends. Studied Law and know lawyers, I told my little cousin who was in MLM to get me the contract u signed, terms & Conditions, all documentation that they showed you. Well too bad, my little cousin, who is considered "infant" in the legal aspect, don;t even remember what he saw. He did not read the T&C, he did not go through the documentation and he cannot get these stuff I need.
If you guys are still interested in closing these (this) company, how about starting a new thread, or let's form a yahoo or messenger (I think they have) group. We see what we civilians can do from there. Cheers to laurance, I only remember him from the posts infront.
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if you are planning to do this, your spy should be equipped with a voice-capture device (tape-recorder/some mp3 players can record sound also i believe?) . then you will have evidence le lor
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anyway....nti is still alive n kicking.........so...................
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i just joined recently im waiting to make a pile
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u can wait den..........Originally posted by Cenarious:i just joined recently im waiting to make a pile -
Are u still waiting ......Originally posted by Cenarious:i just joined recently im waiting to make a pile
u can wait long long ........ -
Wow it's been a long time since I've been in here! Almost forgot my login id and password...
Strange that I decided to visit sgForums on a whim almost exactly 2 years after my very first post http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59932&page=19.
Having not visited this thread for almost two years, let me just say that I actually quit NTI in June 2004, 3 months after I posted the messages in this thread (see link above). Oh the irony! I laughed when I revisited my posts earlier on.
I left NTI jaded and mentally drained. To me, it seemed as though I wasted a good one year there (not to mention a few thousand dollars on their products which until today still sits in my cupboards at home
).
Did I earn much during my one year there? No. In fact, I managed to earn back only 10% of what I had put in when I joined them. When I left that place I carried with me a loss of $1000+.
Did I slog like an animal? Yes I did, often getting less than 5 hours sleep a night because I had appointments until 2am and another appointment at 8am. I had my very own network of about 30 downlines. At that point in time, I was considered rather successful in NTI. In the end, my entire network collapsed within a space of 2 weeks.
Was I a bad leader for allowing my network to collapse? I didn't think so. I put in more hours than they did, I was more articulate, I was proficient in both Mandarin and English and even conversational dialect. I have been in leadership positions since secondary school. I read more books than they did. Did these count for anything? No, not at all.
Did I learn anything about how to do a business? No. Zilch. To all of you who joined MLM because someone told you "it's a good way to learn how to do your own business and be your own boss (BYOB)", you've been sadly lied to.
I attended 80% of James Phang's lectures, attended BIP and even paid $100 through my nose to attend PSC (the infamous Philosophy of Success Course). I was personally coached by the tier-3 network marketers, my so-called up-up-uplines, if I may use that term. Yet today I have nothing much to offer whenever friends come to me for advice on their business plans.
Ask successful entrepreneurs out there who made it on their own and they will tell you that you can learn how to set up your own business by yourself. Definitely not through MLM.
I left NTI just before I entered university for my undergaduate studies. Most guys my age entered university with a bank account chock full of savings from their NS allowance. I went in penniless. I see my friends going out and having fun during Freshmen Orientation and my heart ached because I didn't possess the spending power they did.
Two years down the road and I've never regretted leaving NTI. The way the top brass conducted themselves over at the office leaves one to wonder whether they are really as brilliant as they claim themselves to be.
One might say, "Hey, NTI Paris is still around after so many years. Doesn't that mean something?"
Yes, it does. It just means that youngsters nowadays are increasingly impressionable and easily swayed by marketing tactics. Many of the network marketers in NTI were bordering on illegal working age when I left, though I hope that the situation has changed by now.
For those of you proficient in English, take a look at their website. Look at the sheer number of spelling and grammatical mistakes within it.
Totally unprofessional. And this is a company which claims that it can compete with MNCs in terms of professionalism, work ethics and economies of scale.
All this being said, I have a friend who joined NTI with me 3 years back (we were crosslines) and has worked hard enough to make BDM in NTI. I'm happy for him, seeing how he enjoys network marketing and how well he has performed in it.
Still, he is but one success story. For every person like him, there are probably 100 others who have failed to achieve the MLM dream.
Hopefully, my personal experience will discourage those of you who come across this from taking this big gamble (even soccer betting has a higher chance of generating profits). If you haven't joined, that is.
For those of you who are currently in MLM but have doubts about the industry, maybe this post will help you reach a decision.
For those of you in MLM, strongly believe in it, believe that you will do well and drive a big car within one year, I wish you all the best.
Cheers all. -
well very long and purposeful post.
i think ppl who are contemplating whether to join mlm, should seriously consider how u are going to at least break even from ur so called investments. many ppl join mlm without thinking or with the 'fake it until u make it' mentality. i.e. pretend to be very rich to lure friends into mlm, hoping one day u recruit enough to really start earning. I think it's very dangerous to have that kind of mentality. it's good to have a desire to make it big in life, but u also need a good plan to carry out. everyone also has desire to be rich. but the one who made it are the ones with a concrete plan.
if ur plan is to pretend to be very rich, well dressed, project the successful image to ur friends when u haven't reach that status, u are just putting one foot in the hell hole. -
Originally posted by sponge:
BDM? So what?! I know a few BDMs/BRMs in NTI as well, but they are as poor as a beggar. What is your friend's name? (You can pm me) Maybe he is/was from my camp. Maybe i know him. Then i will tell you how he fair in NTI.
Wow it's been a long time since I've been in here! Almost forgot my login id and password...
Strange that I decided to visit sgForums on a whim almost exactly 2 years after my very first post http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=59932&page=19.
Having not visited this thread for almost two years, let me just say that I actually quit NTI in June 2004, 3 months after I posted the messages in this thread (see link above). Oh the irony! I laughed when I revisited my posts earlier on.
I left NTI jaded and mentally drained. To me, it seemed as though I wasted a good one year there (not to mention a few thousand dollars on their products which until today still sits in my cupboards at home ).
Did I earn much during my one year there? No. In fact, I managed to earn back only 10% of what I had put in when I joined them. When I left that place I carried with me a loss of $1000+.
Did I slog like an animal? Yes I did, often getting less than 5 hours sleep a night because I had appointments until 2am and another appointment at 8am. I had my very own network of about 30 downlines. At that point in time, I was considered rather successful in NTI. In the end, my entire network collapsed within a space of 2 weeks.
Was I a bad leader for allowing my network to collapse? I didn't think so. I put in more hours than they did, I was more articulate, I was proficient in both Mandarin and English and even conversational dialect. I have been in leadership positions since secondary school. I read more books than they did. Did these count for anything? No, not at all.
Did I learn anything about how to do a business? No. Zilch. To all of you who joined MLM because someone told you "it's a good way to learn how to do your own business and be your own boss (BYOB)", you've been sadly lied to.
I attended 80% of James Phang's lectures, attended BIP and even paid $100 through my nose to attend PSC (the infamous Philosophy of Success Course). I was personally coached by the tier-3 network marketers, my so-called up-up-uplines, if I may use that term. Yet today I have nothing much to offer whenever friends come to me for advice on their business plans.
Ask successful entrepreneurs out there who made it on their own and they will tell you that you can learn how to set up your own business by yourself. Definitely not through MLM.
I left NTI just before I entered university for my undergaduate studies. Most guys my age entered university with a bank account chock full of savings from their NS allowance. I went in penniless. I see my friends going out and having fun during Freshmen Orientation and my heart ached because I didn't possess the spending power they did.
Two years down the road and I've never regretted leaving NTI. The way the top brass conducted themselves over at the office leaves one to wonder whether they are really as brilliant as they claim themselves to be.
One might say, "Hey, NTI Paris is still around after so many years. Doesn't that mean something?"
Yes, it does. It just means that youngsters nowadays are increasingly impressionable and easily swayed by marketing tactics. Many of the network marketers in NTI were bordering on illegal working age when I left, though I hope that the situation has changed by now.
For those of you proficient in English, take a look at their website. Look at the sheer number of spelling and grammatical mistakes within it.
Totally unprofessional. And this is a company which claims that it can compete with MNCs in terms of professionalism, work ethics and economies of scale.
All this being said, [b]I have a friend who joined NTI with me 3 years back (we were crosslines) and has worked hard enough to make BDM in NTI. I'm happy for him, seeing how he enjoys network marketing and how well he has performed in it.
Still, he is but one success story. For every person like him, there are probably 100 others who have failed to achieve the MLM dream.
Hopefully, my personal experience will discourage those of you who come across this from taking this big gamble (even soccer betting has a higher chance of generating profits). If you haven't joined, that is.
For those of you who are currently in MLM but have doubts about the industry, maybe this post will help you reach a decision.
For those of you in MLM, strongly believe in it, believe that you will do well and drive a big car within one year, I wish you all the best.
Cheers all. [/b] -
Its already a month.Originally posted by Cenarious:i just joined recently im waiting to make a pile
How much have you earned?
Or you are concentrating on their so-called TRAINING and earned USD 0?
Hahaha!!! Wake up lah! Stilling dreaming ah!!! -
they closing down liao...
got any closing down sales? -
Is it MIT or NTI???
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Ya!Originally posted by I love BMW:they closing down liao...
got any closing down sales?
Selling their one and only old BMW drive by their MD, Jackie Hoo. -
Its NTI!!!Originally posted by dcx:Is it MIT or NTI???
But sooner or later no more.
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ya...i know.....nvm if you don't get it....Originally posted by MLM Victim:Its NTI!!!
But sooner or later no more.
Hahaha...
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heard they shifiting their attention to malaysia...
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Going malaysia with those poor (no $$$) and young kids?Originally posted by I love BMW:heard they shifiting their attention to malaysia...
they easier to cheat.. lol
School Outing? -
pretext as school outing... actually is to smuggle those naive nti young kids to sell !!
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Pls lah... I dont think jackie hoo has the ability to bring NTI to malaysia.Originally posted by I love BMW:heard they shifiting their attention to malaysia...
they easier to cheat.. lol
He cant even handle in singapore as a MD.
His management sux!!! Its the worst management in the world.