DW Group & EastWing Group - My Experience
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Ya all their managers are school drop outs and ITE graduates, and they all make between $5000-$10000 per monthOriginally posted by splotchy:We filled out particulars on a form first, den this person told us the manager is only 20 plus and graduated from ITE. She work there for 1 1/2 years and now she's a manager earning $4000 per mth. Carol told us we couldn't do admin work coz we didn't have experience and were not permanent staff and we had to do a second interview tomorrow.
but i must say some girls there are hot 
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U sure they earn tat amt every mth? Wat they say may not be the truth lor...Say is free 1 mah...Originally posted by 1mm0rta1:Ya all their managers are school drop outs and ITE graduates, and they all make between $5000-$10000 per month but i must say some girls there are hot
hot?? Hmmm...Got meh? I rem my time then dun have leh...From which flr 1? Share leh....Ha
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hey, no latest news of DW liao ar? No new pple join this comp ar? Or pple realli clever liao...haha
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hey people ,
i think it is my luck that i happen to chance upon this forum talking abt the DW company. actually i am working there now. but its been only a few days. out of the many appointments i went , luckily i had only close one of them. its true , no one tells us abt the salary. everyone will either say ' they dont know ' or ' i am not sure '. there is also no black and white paper stating the salary we should get. seeing this forum now has put me on guard. hmm , i was wondering , they promised the goods to be send to my relative next week after she paid the full amount. should i wait till then to quit ? or should i just disappear from the company now ? can someone gimme some advice ? thanks.
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can't really help you there, i juz go there to see babes but dun join. not bad i say -
Hmm...U r like me last yr....But i'm not so lucky to see all this helpful advice from the web that time...I quitted after a lot of thinking and scoldings from my parents....Originally posted by lalala1999:hey people ,
i think it is my luck that i happen to chance upon this forum talking abt the DW company. actually i am working there now. but its been only a few days. out of the many appointments i went , luckily i had only close one of them. its true , no one tells us abt the salary. everyone will either say ' they dont know ' or ' i am not sure '. there is also no black and white paper stating the salary we should get. seeing this forum now has put me on guard. hmm , i was wondering , they promised the goods to be send to my relative next week after she paid the full amount. should i wait till then to quit ? or should i just disappear from the company now ? can someone gimme some advice ? thanks.
Wat i advice is if you think you still wanna work there, then by all means. If you think its wrong, then quit lor...Don't worry they will send the product..keep the invoice with you...Btw, which holdings r u from? Me kpo...
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hmm , thanks for the advice. eu worked there before ??
got salary take anot ? -
no basic 1 la...all commission based....U haven tell me which holdings u from...Originally posted by lalala1999:hmm , thanks for the advice. eu worked there before ??
got salary take anot ? -
Which product did u sell to ur friend/relative? If it's a small item, I think u can just forget about it and quit now. I am really not sure if they will give u ur item after 1 week, but if u have read my very first post, u will realize that even with the invoice, if they are bent on 'eating' ur money bcos u quit, there's really nothing u can do, unless u are willing to spend lots of $$ to pursue the case.Originally posted by lalala1999:hey people ,
i think it is my luck that i happen to chance upon this forum talking abt the DW company. actually i am working there now. but its been only a few days. out of the many appointments i went , luckily i had only close one of them. its true , no one tells us abt the salary. everyone will either say ' they dont know ' or ' i am not sure '. there is also no black and white paper stating the salary we should get. seeing this forum now has put me on guard. hmm , i was wondering , they promised the goods to be send to my relative next week after she paid the full amount. should i wait till then to quit ? or should i just disappear from the company now ? can someone gimme some advice ? thanks.
As for the salary, during my time it was 8% of what u sold. Assuming u sold a pillow, it's only $23.20. Ur so-called colleagues are not allowed to tell u about the pay scheme, supposedly becos it's sensitive and confidential, but seriously, they just don't want to scare u away when ppl break the news to you in the wrong way. Such things should also be told in a brain-washing session, no?
But if the product is expensive, maybe try to ask for a refund. That's going to be tough, but if u need help, get an adult to go with you. -
Well, everything I have typed here is my own personal account, if u are a worshipper of DW, take it with a pinch of salt and exit now.Originally posted by specimen_76:Untrue facts n gossips will reflect how inmature a person n their personality. Anyone can gossip n cause slandering or flaming in any forums. It will only wait till the day when anyone take legal actions against it. By causing flaming n slandering in a forum just to hope it will greatly influence innocent people reading it. Whereby how true all this facts and people are really involve into each company. Is it true that anyone that is terminated or sack by the company can go into a forum to back stab a company? Just heard some companies is taking legal actions. Think twice to fake up tales. Just an advice. Don't take it too hard.
So DW informed its people to stay away from this foum? that's great, I think this thread has already served its primary purpose.
Legal action? I have the documents issued by SCT and DW that supports my case. Hmm.. but I don't think Mr Joey Tan would do that. He's smart enough to not smash his own DW signboard, though we would be interested to see what might be uncovered if this goes to court.
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MORE PLEASE.. I WANNA READ MORE INFO ABOUT THIS COMPANY!! I THINK IM ALMOST SAIKO BY THE PPL TO STAY~ LUCKILY I HAF THIS HABIT OF CHECKING THINGS OUT B4 I DO SOMETIHNG LIKE THIS~
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hmm , eu working inside DW now ?Originally posted by Itachi:MORE PLEASE.. I WANNA READ MORE INFO ABOUT THIS COMPANY!! I THINK IM ALMOST SAIKO BY THE PPL TO STAY~ LUCKILY I HAF THIS HABIT OF CHECKING THINGS OUT B4 I DO SOMETIHNG LIKE THIS~ -
not realli.. haven even went 1 appt.. which holding u from? im considering not to go back le..Originally posted by lalala1999:hmm , eu working inside DW now ? -
i see , how they saiko eu ??
me ? a holding that start with the letter H .. =)
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erhhh...... i shld see u before!!!Originally posted by lalala1999:i see , how they saiko eu ??
me ? a holding that start with the letter H .. =)
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eh , den what eu mean eu shud c me b4 ?Originally posted by Itachi:not realli.. haven even went 1 appt.. which holding u from? im considering not to go back le..
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Wow you sound frustrated.... Who's the owner of DW group?Originally posted by lhx_kaze:Hi everyone,
I would just like to share my experience with this company DW Group - KCG Holdings or otherwise now known as EastWing Group. I joined DW Group - KCG Holdings in Dec 2003 located at Apex Tower Tanjong Pagar. In early 2004, KCG Holdings "ventured" out from DW Group and became known as EastWing Group now located at a shophouse at Neil Road, just opposite Cantonment Police Complex.
I dare to say my working experience in EastWing Group is a really bad experience coz I got cheated a few thousand dollars worth of goods, the infamous health wise mattress worth near $2K each.
Actually I can tell everyone, the product itself is NOT a scam, because magnetotherapy is rather established in other countries, just that some local companies are actually selling at a very high price, of course thats the way these companies have to survive.
Well at that time, me and my so-called downline we sold quite a number of goods and as u all know, we have to pay the amount to the management and they promise to give us the goods in one months time. However, we quitted in early March, coz we were really so broke, and we realized that we could not survive in this so-called toughest trade. You can say that we were poor sales personnel, we did not have the skills to survive there. Well, I admit it cos I am glad I did not possess such "surviving" skills.
I sold a few pillows to my friend and when I quitted I didnt clear all my stocks. When we called the company to ask for the goods, the manager would tried to delay giving us the stocks. Finally, me and my colleague we managed to force the manager to write us an agreement, stipulating by the agreed time, if they couldnt give the goods, we will report to the police. We even got his fingerprint on the agreement.
In the end, they couldnt produce the goods, and this is actually something which I find quite fishy.. I am really not sure why when we have already paid the full amount, we still couldnt get our goods. The reason given by the manager was the supplier delayed the goods. When I asked the manager for the supplier's no, he IMMEDIATELY changed the topic saying that I shouldnt do this... blah blah blah...
The next week, my colleague and I we reported the case to the police and the Small Claims Tribunal. We won the case at the SCT and they were supposed to give us back our $2K last month, but up till now we havent get our $$ back. The worst thing is, I had to fork out my own $$ to pay back my friend cos apparently she felt cheated by me for asking her to get their products. By the way, there is no use reporting it to the police, cos they will just take down ur statement and in 2 weeks, they will just write u a letter saying that this is a civilian case, they cant do anything.The managers say they have no $$, but 2 of them are driving BMWs, one of which is a BMW convertible.
I have to say I am really STUPID, GULLIBLE and NAIVE to have joined the company. I am NOT saying that MLM companies are all cheaters, they are not! but its really my luck for me to have joined EastWing Group. SUbsequently I found a job elsewhere where I get an hourly wage. I do agree that I have learnt quite a lot of presentation skills from my sales job, but u can still learn alot of things elsewhere from other jobs. If MLM really doesnt work for u, just leave. And it is really not suitable for just anyone out there. My new job is quite satisfactory cos I get more benefits over there, if the management did not cheat me of my $$, I would not be here typing so long to share my experience.
The manager once told our staff, you should always try to CONvince someone, when u cant convince, u try to CONfuse, if not, u try to CONtroll them with ur words. If all fails, u will CON them.
I am here not to say any bad about MLM, network marketing or the Japan Life mattresses. My experience with EastWing Group nearly costs me my family, my friends, and my entire savings which is quite precious to a teenager.
There are many ways for u to succeed, u can do so through MLM too but of course there's a lot for u to learn. I am really regretful that there was no one to tell me their experience, thats why I got cheated by this company. I hope all of u out there will really be careful in choosing which MLM company u all join or will join.
* MLM is definitely a good way for u to expand ur investment, believers of MLM are actually very hardworking and determined ppl whom we should respect. BUt my advice is join MLM ONLY if u are at the TOP of the pyramid, otherwise you have to work hard to make $$ for those at the top.
Have you tried richdad.com's mlm forum? They have lots of professional networkers to offer advise on picking a company.
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u register just to say this??
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To itachi and la19999
R u 2 still in Hon***?? Don't tell me u 2 kana convinced to stay on and fight for the company liao ar? Anyway, do what u 2 think is right for the both of u...Don't end up regretting this or that... -
no la.. i nv report to work liao. tt manager this morning sms me ask me go down even if i wan quit.. i din reply..Originally posted by Heartzzz:To itachi and la19999
R u 2 still in Hon***?? Don't tell me u 2 kana convinced to stay on and fight for the company liao ar? Anyway, do what u 2 think is right for the both of u...Don't end up regretting this or that...
if go down sure kana propaganda one..? -
Thats wat they do best...u go down 1 more time is 1 more brain washing session..At least u know about them liao...Glad u made the decision which u think is best for u...cheersOriginally posted by Itachi:no la.. i nv report to work liao. tt manager this morning sms me ask me go down even if i wan quit.. i din reply.. if go down sure kana propaganda one..? -
heys. i also quitted ler. never go down to office today.Originally posted by Heartzzz:To itachi and la19999
R u 2 still in Hon***?? Don't tell me u 2 kana convinced to stay on and fight for the company liao ar? Anyway, do what u 2 think is right for the both of u...Don't end up regretting this or that...
made up my mind liaos. anyway , itachi , which manager sms-ed you ?
they didnt even bother to call me. =D
haiz , i still owe my relative $
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heys. i just received a msg frm the manager.
and he asks us to go dwn tomorrow , to explain everything.
do eu think he will explain everything ?
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Wat u think leh? Since u know the ans liao, u should know wat 2 do...They wun let go of any1 de lor....If u 2 got any sales, get your comission and leave...4 products wise, have to wait for a while i think...if u all got no sales, then i don't think there's any point of returning back...Originally posted by lalala1999:heys. i just received a msg frm the manager.
and he asks us to go dwn tomorrow , to explain everything.
do eu think he will explain everything ?
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if u are not under any law bidding contract.... just dont bother going back.... if u have some money there, unlikely they are going to return you... treat it as a loss and move on with ur life!