DW Group & EastWing Group - My Experience
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ya...quitted long ago...bt nw still gt prob wif the company..my relative bought the products from me oso...den they nv deliver so nw chasing for money.....haiz....
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how did u approach them to get back ur product? msg or call them? u MUST go up to their office and confront them for the product.. thats what i did for a miserable bracelet after they owe me for more than 6 month
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as for me, i did wat u did and in e end i when to court and file for small claim, then when e court date they say they will return mi my $$$$$ in installments.... if they really earn so much per month, do u think they have no $$$ to return in 1 shot rather than slowly return... DW is just a junks of liars and cheater...Originally posted by Lambo:how did u approach them to get back ur product? msg or call them? u MUST go up to their office and confront them for the product.. thats what i did for a miserable bracelet after they owe me for more than 6 month -
ALOT OF U LIKE GOT THIS PROBLEM OF THE DELAYING OF STUFFS. BUT FOR ME DUN HAVE, I CALL THE SO CALLED MANAGER AND HE ASKED ME TO RETURN NEXT DAY TO COLLECT THE 2 DAMN PILLOWS AND MY COMMISSION OSO, SEEMS LIKE I AM QUITE LUCKYOriginally posted by p00rme:as for me, i did wat u did and in e end i when to court and file for small claim, then when e court date they say they will return mi my $$$$$ in installments.... if they really earn so much per month, do u think they have no $$$ to return in 1 shot rather than slowly return... DW is just a junks of liars and cheater... -
yup u are abit unlucky p00rme.. fark DW bunch of hopeless bast4rds n b1tches trying to act seh
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ya...lucky u...
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I joined this company in March 2005. After 4 months I became an assistant manager, but I was earning $50 a month. I was in 4 figure debts...reaching 5 figures. Finally after 6 months in the company, I quit in October 2006. I had a BGR with another manager, and our director said he wasn't letting us quit...he was terminating us using our BGR.. The miserable few hundred dollars we had earned for the month of October was not given to us.
I was very angry...My director's last words to me was 'ni bu ren(2), wo bu yi(4)'. I felt betrayed. I calculated my debts...it was around 10k...I was lost and was desperate to get a job fast to clear my debts. I went for interviews, proudly proclaiming that I was an assistant manger in a Sales Company dealing with magnetic mattresses. The interviewers told me they don't believe in MLM shit. From an assistant manager in DW, I went all the way down to doing room service in Raffles Hotel.
1 year has passed. The anger I had for the company has died down. I am now working in a bank earning around $3000 a month. I am still clearing my debts, it seems like eternity...But I did learn a lot of sales stuff from DW, so just take it that I paid $10,000 for their lessons lor...and some magnetic stuff.
To all of you, DW is a good learning ground, just don't be like me or hanyun go and borrow so much money and throw into that company. The economy outside is not as bad as they say. I'm don't even have a diploma, yet I'm getting $3000 a month, with CPF contribution somemore!
And to Hanyun, I just saw your statement that's why I'm writing this now. Before I left DW I saw you borrowing and borrowing and felt sorry for you... Didn't know it would amount to $30000... Hope you are doing fine now. My gf just told me funny thing is...we all knew it won't work, yet we still did it. -
oh J & J...well good for u.
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firstly hi to everyone.im new member for this forum.
before putting a little word; just want to let you know that i had done
my survery for this topic.
my comment is simple:
"those who really understand the essense of MLM ; will definately join MLM; love MLM; and helps all partner to success in every aspect; and eventually will gain success given from other partner" MLM is the ONLY career that has the motto "ONE FOR ALL; ALL FOR ONE".
Think about it. Do convey idea in rational and constructive way. -
mine going to 1 year ..Originally posted by Lambo:how did u approach them to get back ur product? msg or call them? u MUST go up to their office and confront them for the product.. thats what i did for a miserable bracelet after they owe me for more than 6 month -
Christine BJ me b4 n i banged her b4 n she enjoyed it..
too bad din break her virgin cos joey tan did it b4 mi
dw sux sux sux!!!
F all the directors n joey tan!!
magstorm n honor n magnius all gone crashing liao
think dw gonna crash oso
btw heard joey tan kanna some legal case. anyone hear abt it? -
Rachel is soon going to sue by ppl liao.... fcuking DW group.... the boss oso fcuk up....Originally posted by jayjo:Christine BJ me b4 n i banged her b4 n she enjoyed it..
too bad din break her virgin cos joey tan did it b4 mi
dw sux sux sux!!!
F all the directors n joey tan!!
magstorm n honor n magnius all gone crashing liao
think dw gonna crash oso
btw heard joey tan kanna some legal case. anyone hear abt it? -
when we went der, it was like "wow! so many pp goin for interview, muz be some big company wor" and we met a couple of schoolmates der as well... the 1st impression dw gave me when i stepped into the office is "how come so many ah beng??? secret society huh?" but the pp der are v frenly and joke with us... gt 1 guy take us ard for a tour and say some lifescience thingy and dey r takin their concept frm japan life(wateva)... and say china, germany, msia blah blah blah also doing the same thing (i was wondering why no USA when dey are the 1st to create nuclear bombs??? also pro-science country mah) and say tt dey own almost half the building of apex tower... we were like WOW!!! and he claimed tt dey are intending to buy over the whole tower as soon as dey meet some criteria (dunno wat criteria lahz)...
no la..actually its soul society..ur dead
i oso gt some bad experience wif DW..anyone care to hear? lol.. -
Dotz ~ I know DW people is quite pushy sometimes, but isn't that bad right ?
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Originally posted by 0tah:
care to share ur bad experience with us?????
when we went der, it was like "wow! so many pp goin for interview, muz be some big company wor" and we met a couple of schoolmates der as well... the 1st impression dw gave me when i stepped into the office is "how come so many ah beng??? [b]secret society huh?" but the pp der are v frenly and joke with us... gt 1 guy take us ard for a tour and say some lifescience thingy and dey r takin their concept frm japan life(wateva)... and say china, germany, msia blah blah blah also doing the same thing (i was wondering why no USA when dey are the 1st to create nuclear bombs??? also pro-science country mah) and say tt dey own almost half the building of apex tower... we were like WOW!!! and he claimed tt dey are intending to buy over the whole tower as soon as dey meet some criteria (dunno wat criteria lahz)...
no la..actually its soul society..ur dead
i oso gt some bad experience wif DW..anyone care to hear? lol..[/b]
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y rachel gonna kanna sue? issit because she wear too much G string? hahaOriginally posted by Toa Payoh:Rachel is soon going to sue by ppl liao.... fcuking DW group.... the boss oso fcuk up.... -
hi,
is it true that DW shifted their office out of apex tower? -
The moment I walked into Venture Era I had a bad feeling, cuz all their staff looked too young and just...super shady. My friend and I were just there to find out more about the job, but the longer we stayed the more suspicious we got. I don't think any bona fide, ethical company would spend a couple hours dangling promises of lucrative benefits and promotion/experience prospects to lure you to work with their company. Everything was just too good to be true--promotions that can occur within weeks, even days, amazing car incentives for the top, etc etc. It just shows that they're super desperate for people-preferably young and gullible--to work for them. There was not a single older person present, everyone looked either in their late teens or, at the very most, 20s. Which is really weird, cuz most big businesses looking to expand usually have at least a few mature staff; most young companies tend to be smaller in terms of staffing--why use more people, when it means more of the company's profits will leak out in the form of salaries and commissions? Throughout the demo, I asked quite a few questions about the business, and the answers the agent gavesimply made me more suspicious. E.g, :How much profit does the company make?" "A few million".
Well, if that's so, your company certainly doesn't look it. I guess most of it went into those amazing car incentives?:p
The few staff I met didn't speak well, nt the very sales kind of person (to be harsh, they did seem like the gullible, not-so-bright sort). Note that that was thge impression i got before i found out the company did MLM. The agent was quite convincing though, I can see why some people would fall hook line and sinker; cuz everything he said makes logical sense and u can't refute the fact that ppl who work hard reap what they sow, and all that. BUT, it just left a bad taste, especially when he kept implying that uni wasn't as good a choice cuz though fresh grads may earn more at first, yearly increments are low, and in the end marketing for them would pay much better.
He said, "The job is stressful, but you study in school also very stress what some more no income". I'd say, well at least my CONSCIENCE would be more or less INTACT, and I really would prefer school stress to "dunno whether my clients will run away/will the company really give me my $/how to train my downline" stress. Plus, at least I'd be doing something I like, and if I get a good degree at least my career would more likely than not be more steady and less DUBIOUS.
He said, "Having had management experience will look good on your resume." I'd say, "Yeah, and it'll look bad cuz it'd be proof that I'm GULLIBLE, cold hearted and money minded. Which is not part of my intended image."
he said, "My friend who's a researcher in the biomed field still earns $2.8 k even after 5 years. I'm earning $3k +" I'd say, well it all sounds good, but have you factored in the externalities? Like how scared your friends and relatives would be of you? Or the fact that it's not doing much for your karma?
And btw how do i know u're really earning that much?"
There's a reason why such companies target young people. They say they want new blood, but it's really because young people tend to have less experience with stuff,, don't really know the law or the way businesses work, are more trusting and hence fall for their tricks more easily. Those who still speak up for them, well, I can't force you to wake up, I'm just sad that those businesses have managed to brainwash so many ppl into going crazy for them. Flaming those who tell the truth/share a certain opinion simply indicates this naivete and the extent of the brainwashing. Boy am I glad the subjects I took in school taught me to question, analyse and critique what ppl say and do, and look at the context behind them--when u start evaluating things like that (sales pitches etc) you really get a whole new perspective.You don't see things at pure face value any more.
BTW, we went to DW too. Not much there; they wanted us to fill up this application form even though we said we weren't interesting in being interviewed as yet, and gave very vague replies to our questions. My friends and I left without filling the forms, it was just too disconcerting.
I'm thinking of harnessing the media to create awareness, then maybe more ppl will come forward and some action can be taken against these companies. What do u think? If more than 1 person tipped the media off I'm sure they'd sit up and take notice. -
well well well... if you fuckers wanna know, i just quit dw. not because of money or product problems like you ppl. its because i'm gg back to studies. btw you ppl are so outdated! those shit problems you ppl face like no stock or no pay was sooooooo over. dw has already moved on to a bigger space. they're even published cover page on some shit magazine plus! they started opening shops too! damn man!! you ppl are still stuck back to the shitty days!! i pity u ppl. dw doing so well now and you are still crying over spilled milk. [/img]
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wow...may i know where they moved to and where's their outlet??? where's the magazine????????
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I don't know if this is their new place. Cos I was looking for a job and somehow end up there with my friend. It's near Bugis and is quite near the flea market. The place looks pretty run-down and the excuse is that they are just "expanding" there. As for the magazine, I didn't catch the title but I saw this one lady on the cover page. I can't remember it much due to its insignificance. Initially, I'm interested in the job as there are quite some hot girls. But then, I don't give much s.hit by the time I left the place. This is why.Originally posted by hanyun:wow...may i know where they moved to and where's their outlet??? where's the magazine????????
When I enter the place, I'm amazed by the office. I buy their excuse that they are expanding as there are some empty cubicles. And it really looked a bit untidy. My friend's friend is the one who intro us to this place. He told us to wait for the interview. I looked around and saw some other guys being interviewed. They looked "inspired". Perhaps their first time in the working world. For me, though I've just finished my As, I've held several other jobs before. So, I've been through all these. While sitting, I looked around and saw a group of boys. And I really mean boys. Wearing shirts and tie. They don't look a bit formal at all. Cos they are just at the corner chit-chatting. I came upon the idea that the place is like a meeting point or something. Next to them are two big boxes of 'I don't know what'.
Anyway, while waiting, a girl attended to us. I presumed she's about my age. She was the one who gave us more info about the company. As for my friend's friend, he was like very secretive and didn't explain much. Perhaps he's not in position to reveal the trade's secret too early. Anyway, she was explaining why the company is called Dolphin Warriors. "Because dolphin when in the sea, they move together as a group and warrior for their never say die attitude" as quoted.
I was like thinking..BS man! I wonder why Sony is called Sony or perhaps McDonalds really have a meaning in the words or Nike might have meant something in Latin or something. Anyway, she took us for a tour around the office. Seriously, in my first interview in EVERY job, I've never been showed around until I've finally get the job. So, anyway, she was telling us how global the company is with so many branches in Japan as well as other countries around the world. BS again cos she's like rushing through her words as if she's not comfortable telling us lies. I was like half-listening while admiring her cute looks. Pity her future though. So, she told us about the creator of the company. This Malay lady who is an ITE grad, earning $10k+/mth. And she was IN the office that time. DOING SOME OF THE INTERVIEW!!! I'm like wth!! Is she earning that much because she take multiple positions in the company or is it just a lie?
Supposedly, got other big heads there as well. While all these were going on, the young group were still just standing around, slacking. Right in front of their boss? I really wonder if any boss don't mind that. Anyway, the application form is really not an application form. Example questions include "What do you plan to achieve in 3 years time?" What does it got to do with an office job. Btw, I was told that the job is an office job.
Leaving that aside, I waited half an hour for an interview which lasted 5 mins. Which is like talking craps. Like asking what you doing now? I replied finish school. Which school? I feel like replying "Can't you bloody read what I've written in the application form?". A whole load of bull. After that, he told me to go for a 2nd interview 2 days later that is today. I wonder how stupid I must be to fail the 1st interview. From what I read in this thread, it only means more brainwashing. I have no idea of the existence of DW before this. I've only heard of Venture Era. And that is why I check up on DW on the Net. Turns out to be so similar as Venture Era. Except DW is scarier. Damn it! Each time I look for jobs in the Classifieds, most of them are either MLM-related(Apex Tower) or recruiting agencies.
Anyway, should I go for the second interview? I'm like so bored waiting for NS. Maybe, I should go and have some entertainment, trying to see how they will try to brainwash me. And perhaps raise their hopes with my 'rich' relatives. LOL! -
well at bugis where??? i mean the exact location. and the malay lady who ur fren mentioned...well i know who la...anyway...can u get a copy of tat magazine? wats the group name u joined?
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thank god i came across this thread, im about to go for my 3rd interview tommorw which i have to sign some forms so pls tell me what i should do now? jus dont turn up and dont answer any of their calls?
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Well.. Im not sure of the exact place. But, it's very near to that flea market in Rochor Canal Road. Somewhere here.Originally posted by hanyun:well at bugis where??? i mean the exact location. and the malay lady who ur fren mentioned...well i know who la...anyway...can u get a copy of tat magazine? wats the group name u joined?
As for the magazine, I think they only have one! lol... Can't get you one. Sorry. The group is DW. As for the different JVs, I'm not that sure.
jus say you receive a job offer from another place. but be wary. they will sometimes call you up. To clinch last minute deals. lolOriginally posted by BOBBBBBB:thank god i came across this thread, im about to go for my 3rd interview tommorw which i have to sign some forms so pls tell me what i should do now? jus dont turn up and dont answer any of their calls? -
hahaha i pang seh them never call them and i never pick up their calls. dont wana talk to cb conners. anyway their new address is No.3 kelantan lane. their ads all never put their company name, go there then will know its DW. so if u see any job ask u go no.3 kelantan lane just tell them fuck off.