Hi everyone
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thanks JonLS for the reply (on pg 3).
wonderful...
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Hi Thusness,
Thank you for sharing "Presence as a mirror brightly".The 13+ years journey is always 'do nothing and let divine happening unfolds.'
I wasn’t that resistant then about the doctrine of ‘no-self’ but the idea that all phenomenon existence is empty of an inherent ‘self’ or ‘Self’ did not quite get into me. Are they talking about the ‘Self’ as a personality or ‘Self’ as ‘Eternal Witness’? Must we do away even with the ‘Witness’ itself or the Witness is another illusion itself?
I was noticing the contradiction between the first quote and the other two quotes where there is a sense of a doer and something to be done or something to be resolved.
There is thinking, no thinker
There is sound, no hearer
Suffering exists, no sufferer
Deeds there are, no doer
I was meditating the above stanza deeply
And I was remembering my own postings in this thread.
There is inconsistency there also.
I started off asking you for guidance, for advice.
And then I end up posting that asking for advice from others is denying your own true nature.
This truly is an amazing journey, is it not?
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Hi Love me or hate me,Originally posted by luv me or hate me:Hi Longchen,
Im attuned by my master called Parag Pattani. His master was from India. I was attuned in Singapore. Do you still keep in touch with Alan? I would like to find out about the different masters. You can find out about Parag too if you like. He has his own website. Maybe you would have heard of him too. I have nothing but respect for him, for helping me obtain the gift of healing and self healing. Were you attuned in Singapore?
Some people who practise energy, you can feel them when you are near them. They seem to give it out. I had a friend whose energy field feels like "electricity" where the hands on my arms would salute to. Like static. I thought I felt ghost, but I had no fear at that time, and instinct tells me its all right. But the thing is, this friend of mine have not been doing the energy thing like since two years back, but his energy flowed out when I am near him. Energy flows out, as it is, not from the hands but from the body. No need to call for it. Spontaneous. Like what we have been talking about in these threads. I seldom meet anyone who gives out energy that can be clearly felt, and it also takes to recognize it and realise that it is actually just energy flowing. The energy came out from him, his being. He has a different mentor that teaches on how to use energies.
What does Alan's energy field feels like?
My friend can describe energy as sweet, or heavy, or even sourish. Thay are good and bad ones too. "Sourish" probably from the bad kind of people. I have not have the chance to taste much energy cos I have not met many to recognize it. Im amazed one can "taste" it. Know anything about it?
Why waste energy? Conserve it and put it to good use. :p
Hope to hear from ya soon.
Thanks so much for the reply.
As for Alan, he has a warm energy field. He is a kindly ex-Buddhist monk. He is also very much in Taoism or many things mystical for that matter. I have not keep in touch with him for quite some times now. In the past, i will meet him for qi-gong during the weekends if i am free. Nowadays life is so busy...
My wife was also attuned to Reiki 2 by him. My wife said that her initial encounter with him gave her a headache.
I think each individual may feel differently depending on the vibrational field.
So, if i may ask. Do you have any intention of turning 'pro' after the Master attunement?
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hehee... i like the way you said it. "Accomplish and master at doing nothing yet things get done"Originally posted by paperflower:whenever it's possible to fill up blanks for interest, i'd state "doing nothing". then sometimes my friends ask me, don't you have a hobby or an aim? then i'd say my hobby is aiming to accomplish & master at doing nothing yet things get done.
hahaa.... yeah right...
wish you the best in a progressive safe & happy journey.
We are masters at it.
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Turning pro? No not yet. Not really ready for that. I do healings for people I know personally. Im only in my late 20s. Maybe when im much older. Its like part time for me now. Its been two years since im attuned. Reiki is so simple, yet complicated. But for us, once we know it, its like a switch, on the back of your hands. So easy, and friendly.Originally posted by longchen:So, if i may ask. Do you have any intention of turning 'pro' after the Master attunement?
Nice talking to you
Headache? Never heard of it tho. Maybe, it was energy trying to break through a blockage that caused the headache? Experiencing pain is a sign. If you both are free, can attend Parag's free workshops that he conducts on weekends. In recent emails he talked about discovering something about the symbols that Mikao Usui used through his deep study. Let me know if you would like to be on his mailing list. Can forward u his email address. Who knows when you are ready, and maybe your wife can find a suitable master that she will be comfortable with. He has this quiet calmness aura around him.
My next atttunment will be 3A. 3B will only be the final master attunement. So it will be sometime yet. With 3B comes responsibilty I feel. To carry on the works on Dr. Mikao Usui. And never to allow a gift like this to die off. I have commitments now, not right timing yet. But I will have to do it before my master gets too too old. -
Merry Meet luv me or hate me,Originally posted by luv me or hate me:Interesting topic. I have been practising reiki for over two years now. Hi Longchen. Im a reiki 2 practitioner. Saw your past conversation with Oceanus. Are you still at level 2? Im curious. Intend to go for level 3 soon. Cheers!
I am "Oceanos" not "Oceanus". Usui Reiki? You from which lineage? Going for Mastership is good, other stuffs aside, it will greatly increase & intensify your healing.
Blessed Be,
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i want to learn reiki
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5. No mirror Reflecting
Written too muchÂ…
When every single moment is purely nothing but the unfolding of total presence under differing conditions, there is only chirping birds, drum beats, foot steps, sky, mountainÂ…there never was a Witness hiding anywhere!
There is no mirror reflecting
All along manifestation alone is.
The one hand claps
Everything IS!
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End of story.Originally posted by Thusness:5. No mirror Reflecting
Written too muchÂ…
When every single moment is purely nothing but the unfolding of total presence under differing conditions, there is only chirping birds, drum beats, foot steps, sky, mountainÂ…there never was a Witness hiding anywhere!
There is no mirror reflecting
All along manifestation alone is.
The one hand claps
Everything IS!
Happy Journey.
Thanks for the advices, Thusness. I seriously think that this must be documented formally. It is too important. -
Good good! go learnOriginally posted by Cenarious:i want to learn reiki -
I think.. not yet.. one moreOriginally posted by longchen:End of story.
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Reiki shld be quite good as far as i know... with only one exception: don't anyhow heal people you dont know.. Teacher chen warned before, using spiritual powers to interfere someone else illness can bring you harm, especially if that particular person's illness is due to inflictments by spirits (due to revenge, etc). And you may never know. Even li zhu lao shi don't practise public healing, although she healed her mother but never usually do it to others. (but not reiki la)Originally posted by Cenarious:i want to learn reiki -
Oh... cut cut!! Not end of storyOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:I think.. not yet.. one more -
Hi Longchen,Originally posted by longchen:End of story.
Thanks for the advices, Thusness. I seriously think that this must be documented formally. It is too important.
After some thoughtÂ…to prevent one from getting overly excited about the experience of total vitality, total intelligence, total luminous clarity aspect of our pristine awareness and forgot about the importance of causes and conditions Â…
6. The nature Presence is Empty
Not only is there no ‘who’ in pristine awareness, there is no ‘where’ and ‘when’.
Pristine Awareness cannot be contained within a 6-foot body -- neither within nor without. The ‘bond’ makes it so.
All is Presence! But “TONGSss…” is radically different from “the blue sky”…. When conditions are, there is. There is no need for a 'who', ‘when’ or ‘where’, only causes and conditions are necessary. This is its nature.
When there is this, that is.
With the arising of this, that arises.
When this is not, neither is that.
With the cessation of this, that ceases.
-- the principle of conditionality
The self-luminous awareness from beginningless time has never been separated and cannot be separated from its conditions. They are not two -- This is, That is. Along with the conditions, Luminosity shines without a center and arises without a place. No where to be found. This is the emptiness nature of Presence. -
interdependentOriginally posted by Thusness:Hi Longchen,
After some thoughtÂ…to prevent one from getting overly excited about the experience of total vitality, total intelligence, total luminous clarity aspect of our pristine awareness and forgot about the importance of causes and conditions Â…
6. The nature Presence is Empty
Not only is there no ‘who’ in pristine awareness, there is no ‘where’ and ‘when’.
Pristine Awareness cannot be contained within a 6-foot body -- neither within nor without. The ‘bond’ makes it so.
All is Presence! But “TONGSss…” is radically different from “the blue sky”…. When conditions are, there is. There is no need for a 'who', ‘when’ or ‘where’, only causes and conditions are necessary. This is its nature.
When there is this, that is.
With the arising of this, that arises.
When this is not, neither is that.
With the cessation of this, that ceases.
-- the principle of conditionality
The self-luminous awareness from beginningless time has never been separated and cannot be separated from its conditions. They are not two -- This is, That is. Along with the conditions, Luminosity shines without a center and arises without a place. No where to be found. This is the emptiness nature of Presence. -
Originally posted by neutral_onliner:
Yes.. and those curious readers can find a series of 3 topics on Dependant Origination posted by Neutral_Onliner on our forum:,
[b]interdependent[/b]
Dependent Origination(Part I)-D.O vs First Cause
Dependent Origination(Part II)-Where Is The Cracker?
Dependent Origination(Part III)-Who Am I ?
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Yes.. it is very well written and will serve as a guide to all practitionersOriginally posted by longchen:End of story.
Thanks for the advices, Thusness. I seriously think that this must be documented formally. It is too important.
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Yes. Sentimental value.Originally posted by An Eternal Now: -
think our forum r getting more frends to share their knowledge & experienceOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:Yes.. it is very well written and will serve as a guide to all practitioners -
Oh i see.. Thanks. I do not fully understand part 6 yet. But will just let things unfold...Originally posted by Thusness:Hi Longchen,
After some thoughtÂ…to prevent one from getting overly excited about the experience of total vitality, total intelligence, total luminous clarity aspect of our pristine awareness and forgot about the importance of causes and conditions Â…
6. The nature Presence is Empty
Not only is there no ‘who’ in pristine awareness, there is no ‘where’ and ‘when’.
Pristine Awareness cannot be contained within a 6-foot body -- neither within nor without. The ‘bond’ makes it so.
All is Presence! But “TONGSss…” is radically different from “the blue sky”…. When conditions are, there is. There is no need for a 'who', ‘when’ or ‘where’, only causes and conditions are necessary. This is its nature.
When there is this, that is.
With the arising of this, that arises.
When this is not, neither is that.
With the cessation of this, that ceases.
-- the principle of conditionality
The self-luminous awareness from beginningless time has never been separated and cannot be separated from its conditions. They are not two -- This is, That is. Along with the conditions, Luminosity shines without a center and arises without a place. No where to be found. This is the emptiness nature of Presence.
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hi just curious is Thusness an ex monkOriginally posted by longchen:Oh i see.. Thanks. I do not fully understand part 6 yet. But will just let things unfold...
Thanks again Thusness.
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It will help clear the last trace of the falling back to a source.Originally posted by longchen:Oh i see.. Thanks. I do not fully understand part 6 yet. But will just let things unfold...
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Past life, probablyOriginally posted by neutral_onliner:hi just curious is Thusness an ex monk
(this life) no la... in fact he said he took refuge only in 1997, and that's the beginning of when his understanding and experience of emptiness deepened. He also mentioned before, I think, that he wanted to renounce at an earlier stage in life but I think family didn't want, and later got married and have family. Very similar to my dharma teachers 
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Yes. Presence speaks.Originally posted by JonLS:I was noticing the contradiction between the first quote and the other two quotes where there is a sense of a doer and something to be done or something to be resolved.
And I was remembering my own postings in this thread.
There is inconsistency there also.
I started off asking you for guidance, for advice.
And then I end up posting that asking for advice from others is denying your own true nature.
This truly is an amazing journey, is it not?
Happy Journey! -
Now is wife doesn't allow.Originally posted by neutral_onliner:hi just curious is Thusness an ex monk