A friend of mine introduced me to this page, which contains Heart Sutra and an explanation of Heart Sutra.
Check out the 2nd video, which is a video explanation of Heart Sutra.
http://www.tudou.com/playlist/playindex.do?lid=3173479
UPDATE: SORRY I MADE A MISTAKEN STATEMENT EARLIER, PLEASE LOOK AT THE POST BELOW. Please note that though the cartoon maker clearly has non-dual experiences (but not insight into non-dual as the pathless reality), it is neither the understanding of Emptiness nor Buddhist understanding of No-Self.
a quote from someone else...
"To meditate implies seeing very clearly and it is not possible to see clearly, or be totally involved in what is seen, when there is a space between the observer and the thing observed. That is, when you see a flower, the beauty of a face, or the lovely sky of an evening, or a bird on the wing, there is space -- not only physically but psychologically -- between you and the flower, between you and the cloud which is full of light and glory; there is space -- psychologically. When there is that space, there is conflict, and that space is made by thought, which is the observer.
Have you ever looked at a flower without space? Have you ever observed something very beautiful without the space between the observer and the thing observed, between you and the flower? We look at a flower through a screen of words, through the screen of thought, of like and dislike, wishing that flower were in our own garden, or saying 'What a beautiful thing it is.' In that observation, whilst you look, there is the division created by the word, by your feeling of liking, of pleasure, and so there is an inward division between you and the flower and there is no acute perception.
But when there is no space, then you see the flower as you have never seen it before. When there is no thought, when there is no botanical information about that flower, when there is no like or dislike but only complete attention, then you will se that the space disappears and therefore you will be in complete relationship with that flower, with that bird on the wing, with the cloud, or with that face.
And when there is such a quality of mind, in which the space between the observer and the thing observed disappears and therefore the thing is seen very clearly, passionately and intensely, then there is the quality of love; and with that love there is beauty."
~ J. Krishnamurti
Academic and Zen teacher Dr. David Loy:
http://ccbs.ntu.edu.tw/FULLTEXT/JR-PHIL/david.htm
That sa�s�ra is nirv�ṇa is a major tenet of Mah�y�na philosophy. "Nothing of sa�s�ra is different from nirv�ṇa, nothing of nirv�ṇa is different from sa�s�ra. That which is the limit of nirv�ṇa is also the limit of sa�s�ra; there is not the slightest difference between the two." [1] And yet there must be some difference between them, for otherwise no distinction would have been made and there would be no need for two words to describe the same state. So N�g�rjuna also distinguishes them: "That which, taken as causal or dependent, is the process of being born and passing on, is, taken noncausally and beyond all dependence, declared to be nirv�ṇa." [2] There is only one reality -- this world, right here -- but this world may be experienced in two different ways. Sa�s�ra is the "relative" world as usually experienced, in which "I" dualistically perceive "it" as a collection of objects which interact causally in space and time. Nirv�ṇa is the world as it is in itself, nondualistic in that it incorporates both subject and object into a whole which, M�dhyamika insists, cannot be characterized (Chandrakīrti: "Nirv�ṇa or Reality is that which is absolved of all thought-construction"), but which Yog�c�ra nevertheless sometimes calls "Mind" or "Buddhanature," and so forth.
OOPS salah liao! Posted wrong video!!
Regarding:
Thusness said it shows "non-dual insight" and "there is deep clarity. :)"
Very sorry, Thusness was refering to another video... a talk by 元音�人.
The video on the Heart Sutra explanation is still Thusness's Stage 2 level of understanding (see http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2007/03/thusnesss-six-stages-of-experience.html), or like the Hindu Advaita Vedanta sort of understanding, not Buddhist understanding of Anatta.... that is, though the video shows deep non-dual experience, it is still not the insight into the pathless (without entry and exit). Reality is still mistaken as the I AMness (see first 2 paragraphs of http://awakeningtoreality.blogspot.com/2007/03/mistaken-reality-of-amness.html).
The cartoon does not show the Buddhist understanding of No-Self. That means Non-Duality still becomes a stage to enter rather than an insight into what Always Is (i.e. there never was a subject-object split, all along in hearing just sounds and no hearer, in seeing just sceneries but no seer).
Actually I already thought so initially and I told my friend the exact same thing yesterday, but I misunderstood what Thusness told me today morning. This is because he was led from that URL to another video, and he was not refering to the above video.
The video above on Heart Sutra explanation is NOT the understanding of Emptiness. Though Thusness also said, "Some explanations r still ok".
(12:29 AM) Thusness: U must watch the second video (AEN: the one by 元音�人, see 元音�人's videos)
(12:34 AM) Thusness: 元音�人
(12:35 AM) Thusness: I will watch all of it.
(12:35 AM) Thusness: If I got time.
(12:38 AM) Thusness: Then u posted wrongly on the buddhism forum.
(12:38 AM) Thusness: Too bad. He (元音�人) is the level of practitioner I m looking for.
(12:38 AM) Thusness: But dead liao.
(12:46 AM) Thusness: If u can understand what he said, u will understand the essence of 5 and 6.
(12:48 AM) Thusness: One that broke the stage 5 and understand 6 but no philosophical concepts
(12:48 AM) Thusness: Direct experience
(12:49 AM) Thusness: Got to listen more.
(12:50 AM) Thusness: he is the sort of practitioner I seek for.
(12:50 AM) Thusness: Self liberation
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(about the cartoon in the first post, different from what Thusness is talking about above)
(12:41 AM) Thusness: The cartoon is not about emptiness
(12:42 AM) Thusness: Some explanations r still ok
(12:43 AM) Thusness: Not pathless
(12:44 AM) Thusness: That is just my view.
(12:44 AM) Thusness: U just hv to know.
Earlier on:
(12:39 PM) Thusness: The understanding is stage 2 but the experience is stage 5.
(12:39 PM) Thusness: therefore it is advaita sort of understanding.
I wonder anyone knows or read about 元音�人 before?
Just found out...
元 音�人 passed away 8 years ago at the age of 96 in a sitting position while chanting the Sukhavati. Vyuha Dharani loudly. He displayed no signs of sickness or dying during his last days but foretold his disciples that he will be leaving. When he died many miraculous visions of golden and 5 coloured lights, lotuses, auspicious clouds, etc etc were seen by masses. After his body was cremated there were alot of sharira and sharira-flowers.


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Talks by 元音�人: http://www.tudou.com/playlist/playindex.do?lid=1672155&iid=9857580
But I don't know which talk did Thusness watched...
Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Talks by 元音�人: http://www.tudou.com/playlist/playindex.do?lid=1672155&iid=9857580
But I don't know which talk did Thusness watched...
Ai yoh... don't over emphaiszed. Told you it is just my opinion.
It is at this link http://www.tudou.com/playlist/playindex.do?lid=3173479
The
心�大�
by 元音�人.
Discern with your own wisdom. :)
Originally posted by Thusness:
Ai yoh... don't over emphaiszed. Told you it is just my opinion.
It is at this link http://www.tudou.com/playlist/playindex.do?lid=3173479
The
心�大�
by 元音�人.
Discern with your own wisdom. :)
I see... thanks