To have or not?
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Originally posted by floppy_zee:
I tot dats wat supposed to BE in "true" love? Unfortunately... nowadaes BGR kinda stereotyped... got involve "sexual activities"...
[b]Hi, do u guys/ or girls mind being in a relationship w/o sexually activities?
Jus holding hands, hugging, kissing... no 3rd base.[/b]
As for yr question, I dun... Coz I rather much prefer sex AFTER marriage than pre marital sex. Bj... situational...
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I think you must take a view of 'what would be years later'
if you have sex with this girl, what if in the future her bf whos abt to marry her minds the very fact she has been in bed with someone else.
I don't think its abt publicity, but rather what you want out of the relationship and being conservative. But if you are going to marry her already, then i don't really see a problem. -
Hmmm... Could you tell me what you're having for lunch tomorrow? You couldn't, could you? But you'd still appreciate the food you'll eat, whatever it might be. I wouldn't know if this girl was right for me unless she was able to make me happy in every, if not most, aspects. Sex included. And why would I think about her future boyfriend for? Am I grooming her for another partner? That's a wee bit silly, don't you think?Originally posted by Forever84:I think you must take a view of 'what would be years later'
if you have sex with this girl, what if in the future her bf whos abt to marry her minds the very fact she has been in bed with someone else.
I don't think its abt publicity, but rather what you want out of the relationship and being conservative. But if you are going to marry her already, then i don't really see a problem.
About the publicity bit, I said it was more publicised because you assumed that couples many years ago did not partake in pre-marital sex as compared to now.
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it's a case of respect.bottom line....
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You misunderstood my post
i said it would be fine for -me- if i was going to marry her for sure. If theres uncertainty on how the relationship should work out, then i would stay away from it cause, i don't want to live knowing i managed to inevitiably ruin someones' life 10years later.
thats what i meant
maybe there wasn't anything much to publicise abt? Won't that be a possibility
actually btw i could tell you what i am having for lunch tomorrow
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And if I asked you everyday about your lunch menu, would you be able to tell me? Y'dig?Originally posted by Forever84:You misunderstood my post
i said it would be fine for -me- if i was going to marry her for sure. If theres uncertainty on how the relationship should work out, then i would stay away from it cause, i don't want to live knowing i managed to inevitiably ruin someones' life 10years later.
thats what i meant
maybe there wasn't anything much to publicise abt? Won't that be a possibility
actually btw i could tell you what i am having for lunch tomorrow
Exactly. There wasn't much to publicise, but you assumed, right?
Ruin her life? Oh, c'mon... Sex is a two way thing. If she wanted it, and you wanted it, it's going to happen. Both of you agreed to it. It's not like she or you said no. That's rape. C'mon, mate, you sound like you're accepting a wrong without having even commited it yet. Why can't she be ruining your life too if she had sex with you and the relationship didn't work out?
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But you assuming also.
Yes but if it doesn't work out, as a guy it may not matter much. I don't know i think it would just make me feel guilty it affected someone. I am not condoning pre-martial sex, just saying i disagree. -
Mate, we're assuming different things, all right? Let's get that clear. You assumed that people in the past hardly had pre-marital sex. I might be assuming that a woman shouldn't be hurt 10 years dlater for what you both wanted to do. But you made it sound like you're taking a blame for something that both parties consented to. What's the point?Originally posted by Forever84:But you assuming also.
Yes but if it doesn't work out, as a guy it may not matter much. I don't know i think it would just make me feel guilty it affected someone. I am not condoning pre-martial sex, just saying i disagree.
Anyway, you have your views, mate.
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But i am not assuming on 10years later
i know of ppl who have had such problems
i don't want someone to regret something i had control over -
jus do wat ur parents teached u.. most importantly respect urself and respect others.. know how to love urself before u love others..
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Aaaargh.... My posting didn't say you assumed on 10 years later whatsoever... Sheesh... Please read it again, and again.Originally posted by Forever84:But i am not assuming on 10years later
i know of ppl who have had such problems
i don't want someone to regret something i had control over
But since you raised that assumption, have a read of your earlier posting:Originally posted by Forever84:
Would that be classifiedas an assumption? Ack! But no worries, you know people who have that problem. Not everyone's problems should become yours, dude. It's your life. Live it.
You misunderstood my post
i said it would be fine for -me- if i was going to marry her for sure. If theres uncertainty on how the relationship should work out, then i would stay away from it cause, [b]i don't want to live knowing i managed to inevitiably ruin someones' life 10years later.thats what i meant
maybe there wasn't anything much to publicise abt? Won't that be a possibility
actually btw i could tell you what i am having for lunch tomorrow [/b]
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No i am just taking 10 years as a figure
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Wah... U 2 still "arguing"? Y take 10 yrs? Y not enjoy wat is of present? yrself, yr family, frens, da things ard U... present wat...
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Okay, whatever, mate. Just telling you you were wrongly assuming couples weren't having pre-marital sex in the past. Did we get that crystal clear?Originally posted by Forever84:No i am just taking 10 years as a figure
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Yea...
10 years later it would be the present won't it?
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i don mind..
play tis kind of game. -
i would very much like to keep my bgr that way... if i had sex i think i would feel very very guilty, and more so, im very afraid of the consequences cos there is no way i can handle it.. so just stick to the simple stuff is fine
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Originally posted by floppy_zee:
of coz possible gal.. i have a fren who only kept her r/s wif her bf and all her ex to juz kissing and hugging and not even petting... not to mention abt sex... so why not? shes juz another good citizen decrease the risk of STD too leh..
[b]Hi, do u guys/ or girls mind being in a relationship w/o sexually activities?
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Originally posted by floppy_zee:
nope
[b]Hi, do u guys/ or girls mind being in a relationship w/o sexually activities?
Jus holding hands, hugging, kissing... no 3rd base.[/b]
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hmm... interestingOriginally posted by Syusaku:i'd just like to say, sex is definitely no-no b4 marriage..
heavy petting, on the other hand....
to me, heavy petting is almost equivalent to hafing sex...
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I guess it depends on what kinda perspective u are looking at sex... to have sex to have babies? or to have sex for fun? to have sex to closer e bond between u and your partner. I feel that sex even though not a necessity is also a good way of consoling, soothing, comforting yourself or your partner in any ways. It definitely closer e bond between e 2 of u coz u 2 are 'connected in one way'. Understanding them, just purely oneself without makeup, clothings or anything that can hide their flaws... appreciate them e way they are naturally.
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Originally posted by floppy_zee:
think its quite difficult loh as 1 thing lead to another thing, in the end it will spoilt the whole relationship.. tats what i got long ago..
[b]Hi, do u guys/ or girls mind being in a relationship w/o sexually activities?
Jus holding hands, hugging, kissing... no 3rd base.[/b] -
hey floppy_zee, have u been hurt in a relationship before?? cause it seems quite a unique problem... in long run especially... need help let us know...
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if one dont want wat to do dont want lor~~
u dont need it to love the other ^^ -
Originally posted by floppy_zee:
DOn't really mind...
[b]Hi, do u guys/ or girls mind being in a relationship w/o sexually activities?
Jus holding hands, hugging, kissing... no 3rd base.[/b]