My Gf is pregnant!
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So it is better to cut him up and have in sucked down a tube? Gee, that's some sound "logic". Are you telling me that those pictures above are solutions to broken families? Please consider the nonsensical nature of your statement. Please, stop thinking for yourself and think about the baby, you can make it work out if you want. This baby is not garbage to be tossed away.Originally posted by Forever84:As bad as i may sound
i think he made the right choice, you all shouldn't flame him
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Look, Just because if he didn't abort the baby, what makes you think he/she will live.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:So it is better to cut him up and have in sucked down a tube? Gee, that's some sound "logic". Are you telling me that those pictures above are solutions to broken families? Please consider the nonsensical nature of your statement. Please, stop thinking for yourself and think about the baby, you can make it work out if you want. This baby is not garbage to be tossed away.
I know people who got a baby killed when it was almost 1 year old. Which would you prefer? Dying as a fetus or dying as a full baby?
And don't saying all those adoption stuff. Once someone have the baby, things change. People won't want to give up their own flesh and blood so easily. They are already having trouble deciding how to have save sex and now the abortion problem. What makes you think they can handle a real baby or handle giving away the baby after all the pain? And what will their parents say if they decide to do that anyway?
I know it sounds crewl. But Not all humans are as so fortunate to live old and healthy. -
Originally posted by Rox:My girlfriend is pregnant... it is impossible to have the baby becoz we dun have income . We decided to have abortion.... can anyone tell me any abortion clinics in spore and their fees. We are both 20.
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quite true lah.. but 20yrs old lio.. think properly first maybe the parents can help though.. for me i seen too many abortions ... too scared lio to even think of doing it if i get pregnant...Originally posted by n305er:Look, Just because if he didn't abort the baby, what makes you think he/she will live.
I know people who got a baby killed when it was almost 1 year old. Which would you prefer? Dying as a fetus or dying as a full baby?
And don't saying all those adoption stuff. Once someone have the baby, things change. People won't want to give up their own flesh and blood so easily. They are already having trouble deciding how to have save sex and now the abortion problem. What makes you think they can handle a real baby or handle giving away the baby after all the pain? And what will their parents say if they decide to do that anyway?
I know it sounds crewl. But Not all humans are as so fortunate to live old and healthy. -
Thomson shopping centre got 1 clinic less than $500
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My gf is so desperate.... she insisted not to keep the baby... not I. She is still studying and she can't go sch wif a big stomach, moreover her parents dun even let her to hav a bf, imagine wat will happen if she tells her parent she is pregnant. I'm to blame for her plight, that's why we made this decision.
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Originally posted by Rox:My gf is so desperate.... she insisted not to keep the baby... not I. She is still studying and she can't go sch wif a big stomach, moreover her parents dun even let her to hav a bf, imagine wat will happen if she tells her parent she is pregnant. I'm to blame for her plight, that's why we made this decision.
promise her to care for them both and keep to your promise. as long as both are committed, the rest should be worked out from there on. -
After all e comments given by e people here, u should give it a second thought and have a talk with your GF. If it is really not possible, dont force yourself and her...go for e abortion. If u think going thru an abortion is an easy way out, its not... the torment and guilt your gf is going to suffer is intense...esp e first few months after she just aborted...its e aftermath...its not going to be easy for e both of u. Weigh e difficulties and situations u have to go thru, come out with e best decision.
I know alot of people here are against your abortion. Yes, its cruel...but sometimes in this realistic world...without understanding and supportive parents...keeping it is not an option..esp at such a young age. I bet most of e people here didn't really went thru what u are going thru now. Its a tough decision. Both options, u will be blamed, look down by people and gossips behind. Be prepared for all these. Most importantly is e feelings of your GF, be there for her at all times..help her go thru e whole ordeal. Ultimately its u and your GF, no matter what others say, as long as u two have decided what to do, go ahead with it and dont regret it.
Be it good or bad, hope everything will be settled soon for u
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... if your stead insisted then do it.... I CAN SAY THAT AFTER THAT SHE WILL BLAME U FOREVER... GO TO ROM IN THE FUTURE the ans is IMPOSSIBLE....Originally posted by Rox:My gf is so desperate.... she insisted not to keep the baby... not I. She is still studying and she can't go sch wif a big stomach, moreover her parents dun even let her to hav a bf, imagine wat will happen if she tells her parent she is pregnant. I'm to blame for her plight, that's why we made this decision. -
The best advice is still to find a counseler to help you. They got plenty of numbers you can call.
If you plan to keep they baby, they knoe plenty of help in advice and groups which can help financially.
If you need to talk with the parents, they can help ease things and make you, your GF and your parents understand the situation better.
How your parents, your GF's parents will punish you and your GF for not having the diciplin to control your sex life is another thing and you must face the facts that you are guilty and won't ever be able to run away from that guilt.
So You either make 1 of the 2 choices now or risk a more higher error ratio when aborting or a higher punnishment panelty for not telling.
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ermm..i noe tt no matter wat kinda hotlines i give u..u might not wanna to give them a buzz..well..juz keep it..
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PREGNANCY CRISIS SERVICE : 6339 9770 (Mon - Sat, 9am-5pm)
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if u still decided to abort the baby..i hv nothing to say..im sorry to say..but i can't bring myself to give u details abt how much the abortion cost..sorry..
do consider carefully..give yrself more time to think..giving a call through the hotline..sometimes will help..remember tt yr gf will hv to go through all the pain..mentally..physically..and emotionally..
i've a very very very close frenz..she aborted twice..right now..whenever she free..all she can ever do is to go temple to pray..well..u guys might be thinking..wat's the use..? well..all she ever want is to seek peace..peace in her heart..she do regret..all i ask now..is..think carefully..at least..u called for help..
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careful of retribution
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shiok lor have premarital sex, for that 30 minutes of pleasure, you now end up with a lifetime of regret. Either abortion or keep, you gonna have to face up to consequences. Take responsibility and Be a man, just like you tried so hard to be while both of you were on the bed.
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going to sch wif a big stomach why not? my fren went to sch both in TP and NIE wif a big stomach too... its how u manage.. so its time for her to grow up and become a real woman...Originally posted by Rox:My gf is so desperate.... she insisted not to keep the baby... not I. She is still studying and she can't go sch wif a big stomach, moreover her parents dun even let her to hav a bf, imagine wat will happen if she tells her parent she is pregnant. I'm to blame for her plight, that's why we made this decision.
since it has happened tt shes got a bf and her bf got her pregnant by right her parents should noe.. juz put urself in her parents shoes...
u haf a dotter who did such things to u.. and in the end the parents still find out shes got an abortion how would u feel? coz even after abortion dun tell me u gonna let her anyhow eat and live as usual? shes got more tonics to be taken and more care if not she will not be able to get pregnant anymore. -
Baically your post sums up all the oxymorons, delusions and pessimistic "what ifs" for supporting abortion.Originally posted by n305er:Look, Just because if he didn't abort the baby, what makes you think he/she will live.
I know people who got a baby killed when it was almost 1 year old. Which would you prefer? Dying as a fetus or dying as a full baby?
And don't saying all those adoption stuff. Once someone have the baby, things change. People won't want to give up their own flesh and blood so easily. They are already having trouble deciding how to have save sex and now the abortion problem. What makes you think they can handle a real baby or handle giving away the baby after all the pain? And what will their parents say if they decide to do that anyway?
I know it sounds crewl. But Not all humans are as so fortunate to live old and healthy.
So you mean to say killing the baby is a lot easier because the parents don't have to go through the pain of giving her baby away. Oohhh... that sure is selfless...
THAT IS INSANE REASONING!
If you don't want the baby and can't take care of it, 20,000 couples who are childless and want to adopt a year can.
Rox, listen to yourself, you are trying to justify murder with lame reasons, saying it's for the baby's good, it for your girlfriend's good... it is absurb, snap out of it and do the right thing, don't let your child end up in a black plastic bag in the garbage dump of a clinic.
I tell you, if you go through with this, you can complete your studies, get a job and do whatever you want, but your future has already been ruined because you have had blood on your hands that cannot be washed off, blood that is of your own child's. Everytime you see young children, an empty swing swinging in the playground in the breeze, you will be haunted. -
There is no justifying murder. An unborn baby has every bit the rights and viability of a born baby. It is already here, keep it. I'm telling you, keep it. http://abortiontv.com/TwoHeathers.htmOriginally posted by GIJOE:I know alot of people here are against your abortion. Yes, its cruel...but sometimes in this realistic world...without understanding and supportive parents...keeping it is not an option..esp at such a young age. I bet most of e people here didn't really went thru what u are going thru now. Its a tough decision. Both options, u will be blamed, look down by people and gossips behind. Be prepared for all these. Most importantly is e feelings of your GF, be there for her at all times..help her go thru e whole ordeal. Ultimately its u and your GF, no matter what others say, as long as u two have decided what to do, go ahead with it and dont regret it.
Be it good or bad, hope everything will be settled soon for u
Think about what you are going to do. You are making the wrong choice if think you can condemm your child just because of studies and what your parents think. -
Before you make a decision on whether to have an abortion, you owe it to yourself to get the facts. http://abortiontv.com/LettersFromThose.htm
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Maybe you should know your child a little better... 8 weeks... right?
A growing baby with all organs and body systems in place, 8 weeks. His/her unique fingerprints are visible under a microscope, never to change except in size. The creases on the child's hands are also visible and external genitals appear. The eyes, nose and mouth are evident and all 20 milk teeth buds are present. The baby first moves (6th to 7th week) and if the lips are stroked the child bends the upper body to one side and makes a quick backward movement. At 8 weeks, tickling the preborn's nose will cause him to flex his head backwards away from the stimulus. Tapping the amniotic sac results in arm movements. The preborn swims in the amniotic fluid with a natural swimmer's stroke. At the end of the 7th week the child's central nervous system has reached a highly developed state. At 40 days the skeleton begins to develop into cartilage. The movement of electrical impulses through the neural fibers and spinal column takes place between 6 and 7 weeks and at the end of the second month most parts of the adult skeleton can be identified, as well as most named nerves and muscles. At only 40 days after fertilization electrical waves as measured by the EEG can be recorded from the baby's brain, indicating brain functioning ... and yes, he/she is quite human.
Women are the ultimate victims of abortion with many long-term effects. An abortionist stretches the womb opening in 30 to 60 seconds, instead of 12 or more hours of naturally labor – tearing the muscles. If the woman becomes pregnant again, the muscular door has been weakened -- tending to open way ahead of time. Women who've had abortions who later seek children face these additional risks:
During the 1st three months there is twice the chance of miscarriage.
During the second trimester there is ten times the chance of miscarriage.
There is three times the chance of premature delivery.
After birth: 2There is two times the chance of infant death.
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true... the blame game is not practical now.. then when should we slap the couples who do stupid things? when we warn them b4 did they listen? now they screwed up and now they are going to kill a life. its not the blame game i want to play. i want to make sure their actions are burnt into their minds, that one stupid mistake is all it takes to screw up ur life. and USE THEM as a lesson to any other stupid idiots who thinks fu[/i]cking around, even with so called protection, is alright. STOP HAVING THE MENTALITY THAT THESE KINDA STUFF ONLY HAPPENS TO OTHER PPL, I SURE WUN KEENA. ONE STUPID MISTAKE.. thats all it takes.. enjoy the rest of your life... haunted by the memories of murder and death.
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Look, fear of telling her parents of her disgrace is not a justifiable reason for murder. You are the one who made the mistake of having sex, not the baby whom you decided to kill because you are afraid.
You HAVE NOT yet reached the end of the road. You HAVE NOT yet expired all possibilities. Think about it, a confession that you made a mistake - is that as disgraceful or as embarassing compared to trying keep it all under wraps and being discovered in future. -
Please think for the future. Now you are in a crisis, that's why your ability to think clearly, and stay in touch with reality, not to mention your sense of conscience has been compromised, making you vulnerable to considering horrendus ideas like aborting a perfectly wonderful child.
Recently there was this story of a seventeen year old mother... if somebody even younger can me can make it why can't you... stop making excuses... yes it's gonna be a drain on your finances and time (that's part of being a parent). But it's not as if you are gonna end up on the roadside begging for food because of it.
I tell you the truth, this is more a matter of you not wanting to face up to your responsibility and doing what you have to do rather then the child being impossible to support. Search your heart, you just want the easy, 400 dollar way out rather then face a little hardship and difficult times now until things work out, and raising an individual which needs you, and loves you.
Stop listening to the lies that tell you that you cannot keep this child, it is all nonsense. The real truth is, if you want, you can. Don't be a victim of your own delusion.
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I don't mean to sound like aborting is a good choice. But you have to face the facts. Everyone is diffrent. from what he sounds like, it's going to be more trouble then better to keep the baby, both for the couple, their parents and the baby.Originally posted by SingaporeTyrannosaur:Baically your post sums up all the oxymorons, delusions and pessimistic "what ifs" for supporting abortion.
So you mean to say killing the baby is a lot easier because the parents don't have to go through the pain of giving her baby away. Oohhh... that sure is selfless... THAT IS INSANE REASONING!
If you don't want the baby and can't take care of it, 20,000 couples who are childless and want to adopt a year can.
Rox, listen to yourself, you are trying to justify murder with lame reasons, saying it's for the baby's good, it for your girlfriend's good... it is absurb, snap out of it and do the right thing, don't let your child end up in a black plastic bag in the garbage dump of a clinic.
I tell you, if you go through with this, you can complete your studies, get a job and do whatever you want, but your future has already been ruined because you have had blood on your hands that cannot be washed off, blood that is of your own child's. Everytime you see young children, an empty swing swinging in the playground in the breeze, you will be haunted.
And you haven't been through what people call actual bith giving. You kept saying you will give the baby to a good and caring couple, spent months working out looking for someone who actually cares. In the end, you gave birth and it's a life~! Not just something in the body you can't see anymore. You'll feel diffrent and will take back everything you said about putting he/she up for adoption no mater what and you will swear to keep and protect your own baby no mater what it takes.
You showed so many pictures of unborned babies being aborted aka killed. But you must also know that the fact more babies die after birth. and some even left at garbage bins, rivers, buried.
Like I said before and now again, This is not the right place to look for such an advice. Look already 5 pages and majority of the post is to flame him, tell him what to do and give him more doubts. Instead of giving him some support and advice.
What kind of people are you all?
I'm also not saying that what people like Rox did is acceptable and can be fixed. But what is done is done. I hate him, you hate him. But advices don't come in any emotional form. Advices are for the better of things. Not the pity of the baby. -
Hope all e possibilities are being listed down in here for e lost guy think about.
I know everybody here is very concerned about his matter but i think we are adding to e stresses he is facing. Lets not blame him for what has already happened. Just give him our true advise and hope he can settle it himself soon.
By the way, so many people posting here...how many of u all do went thru e same situation before? Anyone? -
I agree with u. We shouldnt be condemning him for what he have done now that it cant be undone. We have to give him our true opinions..those realistic ones...that could be of help.Originally posted by n305er:I don't mean to sound like aborting is a good choice. But you have to face the facts. Everyone is diffrent. from what he sounds like, it's going to be more trouble then better to keep the baby, both for the couple, their parents and the baby.
And you haven't been through what people call actual bith giving. You kept saying you will give the baby to a good and caring couple, spent months working out looking for someone who actually cares. In the end, you gave birth and it's a life~! Not just something in the body you can't see anymore. You'll feel diffrent and will take back everything you said about putting he/she up for adoption no mater what and you will swear to keep and protect your own baby no mater what it takes.
You showed so many pictures of unborned babies being aborted aka killed. But you must also know that the fact more babies die after birth. and some even left at garbage bins, rivers, buried.
Like I said before and now again, This is not the right place to look for such an advice. Look already 5 pages and majority of the post is to flame him, tell him what to do and give him more doubts. Instead of giving him some support and advice.
What kind of people are you all?
I'm also not saying that what people like Rox did is acceptable and can be fixed. But what is done is done. I hate him, you hate him. But advices don't come in any emotional form. Advices are for the better of things. Not the pity of the baby.
Personally i admitted that i have been thru e same situation. Anyone of u been thru it? its not easy to say go for e abortion or to keep e baby...
If u have decided to keep e baby, then question yourself are u prepared to face e problems, gossips, blames etc. All these can break a woman down n they will suffer from depression.
To go for abortion, are u prepared to suffer e torment and being labelled as a murderer...e guilt and gossips too.
Think about it carefully coz its gonna change your whole life be it abortion or keeping it. Discuss with your GF and as long as both of u all are fine with e decision and no regrets, go ahead with it. Its your creation, you decide... -
hah... tts right... its HIS creation... the unworthy one..
