Christian Homophobes should go Fcuk themselves!
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Tomas de Torquemada believed he was right when he caused the deaths of all the "heretics"...Originally posted by summerain22:I know the answer to your question, but i do not wish to create more disagreements here. As u said, it all boils down to what u believe, and my answer comes from what I have learnt and believed in the bible. It will only lead to more arguments and this is already getting out of hand.
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i think some of u guys will have no problem holding high ranks in the KKK.....
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the thing is.....y some of ppl put chrsitain as same as kkk. we n them r 2 different thing........Originally posted by ratinacage:i think some of u guys will have no problem holding high ranks in the KKK..... -
they are not...
however, if the vocal minority behave like the KKK, people will think that the Christians are like the KKK... and attract the like...
and after a while, it becomes the KKK...
we have lost the moment we allow injustice to happen without doing something about it...Originally posted by duotiga83:the thing is.....y some of ppl put chrsitain as same as kkk. we n them r 2 different thing........ -
At least we dont resort to such language. Are u saying that its right to tell them to fcuk off just cos u dont agree with them? So if i dont agree with u, should i tell u to fcuk off too? Is that how u see it.. u think cos they are harsh that u have the right to be harsh too? If that's the case, then no wonder there's no love in this world!Originally posted by ratinacage:ya sure,try to change my gahmen's view,go try.....
did i say i dun like god-fearing men??did i say all christians shud die???i dun remember,u tell me!
....but if a group of ppl voice out against another group of ppl,u think the world will keep quiet and take it laying down??
so in ur idea world,when 1 speaks against another,nobody shud tell 1 that he is gravely wrong???and let 1 have his ways???cos if i come in and tell 1 off then i m a pot calling the kettle black!!!
1 would love that would he not??wat a lovely world,even if its only for 1,but at least someone has a prefect world..?
so u think the topic is harsh???telling these ppl to fcuk off!!!these same ppl who wants some gay men to be without a job....some gay men who is qualified,to go hungry....who treats gay men as some sub-human!!!u tell me wats harsh cos i forgot.to be told that i m wrong or to be treated like as sub-human jux becos i m not like u....
pray do tell me!!
This is exactly what I'm saying. FOR THE LAST TIME, I DONT AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIANS, GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD.
All i'm saying that yes, u're being a hypocrite. You slag the christians off for something that u yourself are doing. By telling them to fcuk off, do u think anything wil be solved?!?! Do u see christians telling gays to fuck off?? Whatever ur opinion, if u wanna do something abt it, do so in a peaceful way!! -
How that has any relevance to what i said, i have no idea.Originally posted by the Bear:Tomas de Torquemada believed he was right when he caused the deaths of all the "heretics"... -
homosexuals are no uncommon from us, and stop stigmatizing them. they are not deviants k.... even if the bible says that homesexual is a sin, but it was passed down from olden days which the followers had the idea that loving same sex was dirty. comon, with so much educations and media exposure, we should change our opinion of homosexuals.
we should stop labelling and giving them bad names.
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simple... he was intolerant of anyone who did not subscribe to the teachings and submitted to the Church...
he called them Heretics and burnt them at the stake...
he was doing this "for the church" and "for God"...
by being intolerant, we are heading towards the twisted values of Torquemada...
again, be informed of what happened... do a search for information instead of accepting everything taught to you.. have total faith in God.. but remember.. His servants on earth are still Human...
Torquemada thought he was acting for God, but he behaved like he was God... here, the Christians are claiming to act for God, but they are behaving like they are GodOriginally posted by summerain22:How that has any relevance to what i said, i have no idea. -
You are sad if u allow the media to change ur opinions and belief. Anyway, it does not matter what people think of homos, whether they are dirty or not is not the point. The point is that u shouldn't discriminate. No matter what kind of people they are or whatever ur opinion of them.Originally posted by ugo_gal:homosexuals are no uncommon from us, and stop stigmatizing them. they are not deviants k.... even if the bible says that homesexual is a sin, but it was passed down from olden days which the followers had the idea that loving same sex was dirty. comon, with so much educations and media exposure, we should change our opinion of homosexuals.
we should stop labelling and giving them bad names. -
Do not fear dissent. The age of stoic sufferance is over. We must learn to speak up, learn to analyse & decide what is right and wrong for ourselves. After all the fairest judgment is derived only after listening to all sides and views. & The firmest belief comes from an irrefutable strength of conviction.
Let there be openness! By speaking out, every speaker reveals both good and bad sides of himself. So public official statements from the church (or any other religious leader) actually reveals more varied aspects of the religion, both benign and insular. & That's a very good thing. -
Originally posted by summerain22:
no,i dun see the christains telling gays to fcuk off,i just see them telling gays to starve to death cos they cannot hold any respectable jobs as they are not normal(sub-human).and go to hell after they are dead.as they are again not conforming to their standards.
At least we dont resort to such language. Are u saying that its right to tell them to fcuk off just cos u dont agree with them? So if i dont agree with u, should i tell u to fcuk off too? Is that how u see it.. u think cos they are harsh that u have the right to be harsh too? If that's the case, then no wonder there's no love in this world!
This is exactly what I'm saying. [b]FOR THE LAST TIME, I DONT AGREE WITH THE CHRISTIANS, GET THAT IN YOUR HEAD.
All i'm saying that yes, u're being a hypocrite. You slag the christians off for something that u yourself are doing. By telling them to fcuk off, do u think anything wil be solved?!?! Do u see christians telling gays to fuck off?? Whatever ur opinion, if u wanna do something abt it, do so in a peaceful way!![/b]
and by saying that i m a hypocrite cos i m bad-mouthing some ppl.i so do agree,mirror???
and yes,i shud do so in a peaceful manner,like gathering all my kakis to discuss about how some minor or even major group of ppl shud be round up and shot!!!by the police of cos...
and tell me one thing,if u dun agree with the other party and u dun agree with me???wat good are u??why are u even in here???so that ppl will know how rightoues u r??? -
question:
are you not guilty of the same thing?
your church elders say that homosexuality is psychological and you believe them instead of finding out the truth?
you shouldn't discriminate... no matter what kind of people your church elders are or whatever your high opinion of them.
they can be wrong... and in this case, i would say they are...Originally posted by summerain22:You are sad if u allow the media to change ur opinions and belief. Anyway, it does not matter what people think of homos, whether they are dirty or not is not the point. The point is that u shouldn't discriminate. No matter what kind of people they are or whatever ur opinion of them. -
The same applies to u.. u may not know the reason for them acting like this. You dont know if God may have instructed them to do so. They are just doing what they think is right, what they think God wants them to do. I am by no means trying to justify their actions, i'm just saying that there are 2 sides to every the story.Originally posted by the Bear:simple... he was intolerant of anyone who did not subscribe to the teachings and submitted to the Church...
he called them Heretics and burnt them at the stake...
he was doing this "for the church" and "for God"...
by being intolerant, we are heading towards the twisted values of Torquemada...
again, be informed of what happened... do a search for information instead of accepting everything taught to you.. have total faith in God.. but remember.. His servants on earth are still Human...
Torquemada thought he was acting for God, but he behaved like he was God... here, the Christians are claiming to act for God, but they are behaving like they are God
I know that they are still human, which is why i am not supporting them in this. But who's to say who is right and who is wrong? Isn't the most important commandment of all to love your neighbour as yourself? Why do people keep forgetting this? -
muahahahahaha....strange!i could swear the same things happened to KKK....exactly the same things.......beating and burning the non-white ppl in the name of GOD!!!Originally posted by the Bear:simple... he was intolerant of anyone who did not subscribe to the teachings and submitted to the Church...
he called them Heretics and burnt them at the stake...
he was doing this "for the church" and "for God"...
by being intolerant, we are heading towards the twisted values of Torquemada...
again, be informed of what happened... do a search for information instead of accepting everything taught to you.. have total faith in God.. but remember.. His servants on earth are still Human...
Torquemada thought he was acting for God, but he behaved like he was God... here, the Christians are claiming to act for God, but they are behaving like they are God
so do u guys see how dangerous a word that is if misused!!!
we are all his children....no???so big brother has the right to burn younger brother for being different??? -
no matter how open u r...there still discrimination ard us....be it this or religions.....
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Sorry, but it was not a church elder or even a christian for that matter who told me that homosexuality is psychological. Find out the truth?!? How?? We will never really know the reason, why dont u accept that u believe one thing and that i believe another.Originally posted by the Bear:question:
are you not guilty of the same thing?
your church elders say that homosexuality is psychological and you believe them instead of finding out the truth?
you shouldn't discriminate... no matter what kind of people your church elders are or whatever your high opinion of them.
they can be wrong... and in this case, i would say they are...
There are many given reasons as to what 'causes' homosexuality, who's to know what is right? -
can u pls make up ur mind and choose a side???easier for me to aim my rifle-sights on!!!!!!Originally posted by summerain22:The same applies to u.. u may not know the reason for them acting like this. You dont know if God may have instructed them to do so. They are just doing what they think is right, what they think God wants them to do. I am by no means trying to justify their actions, i'm just saying that there are 2 sides to every the story.
I know that they are still human, which is why i am not supporting them in this. But who's to say who is right and who is wrong? Isn't the most important commandment of all to love your neighbour as yourself? Why do people keep forgetting this?
love thy neighbours-tell theat to the gay-bashing god-fearing men that hold a meeting to tell the gahmen to rethink their positions on gay. -
have the Church done so?
can i be condoned if i go and bomb abortion clinics just because i think abortion is wrong? i do think it is wrong however, i would fight tooth and nail against anyone who thinks that they can force their morality on me...
here, the idiots who represent the church are forcing their morality on everyone...
what are they going to do next?
remember what i said.. i have heard them denounce Hindus as devil-worshippers... what next? they have a crusade against Hindus? it's not as far-fetched as you think...
give credit where it is due.. and give vilification where it is due too...
the day i stay silent when such BS is spoken and the name of my God is invoked with it, is the day i have betrayed God...Originally posted by summerain22:The same applies to u.. u may not know the reason for them acting like this. You dont know if God may have instructed them to do so. They are just doing what they think is right, what they think God wants them to do. I am by no means trying to justify their actions, i'm just saying that there are 2 sides to every the story.
I know that they are still human, which is why i am not supporting them in this. But who's to say who is right and who is wrong? Isn't the most important commandment of all to love your neighbour as yourself? Why do people keep forgetting this? -
bear, the only ans you can know when u r not on earth......thats when you are too late to change it.....
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so in the meantime, we let the "moral majority" discriminate against the minority?Originally posted by duotiga83:bear, the only ans you can know when u r not on earth......thats when you are too late to change it.....
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living things mutate, it's inevitable that we change when the world is changing every minute. our body cells are changing every minute too. dun bluff that ur opinions dun change and stay like that forever, it shows that u r so immature. we do change, cuz we are exposed to so many things...so bluffing urself that u will think the same as b4 when u watched a speech in the show or wherever. it shows that u dun analyze stuffs and stay like a wood. we do change our opinions towards ppl and life, but i didnt mention abt my belief.Originally posted by summerain22:You are sad if u allow the media to change ur opinions and belief. Anyway, it does not matter what people think of homos, whether they are dirty or not is not the point. The point is that u shouldn't discriminate. No matter what kind of people they are or whatever ur opinion of them. -
Is this all it is to you??! About choosing sides? Whose side i'm on doesn't matter, cant u see that?!?!Did u even read my previous posts??Originally posted by ratinacage:can u pls make up ur mind and choose a side???easier for me to aim my rifle-sights on!!!!!!
love thy neighbours-tell theat to the gay-bashing god-fearing men that hold a meeting to tell the gahmen to rethink their positions on gay.
I'm going to say this once and for all
I AM NOT ON ANYONE'S SIDE, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I DONT AGREE WITH WHAT THE CHRISTIANS ARE DOING. And for that matter, i dont agree with the way some people are reacting towards them either. All im saying is that u have to see it from their point of view as well, dont jump to conclusions, if not u are doing the exact same thing that they are doing!! Get it?!??!
somehow i always end up in these sort of topics that ends in arguments.. -
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simple question:
what do you think of gay people?
another:
would you speak out against your own church if they condemned the gay people and sought to block letting the gay people hold normal jobs?Originally posted by summerain22:
Is this all it is to you??! About choosing sides? Whose side i'm on doesn't matter, cant u see that?!?!Did u even read my previous posts??
I'm going to say this once and for all
[b] I AM NOT ON ANYONE'S SIDE, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I DONT AGREE WITH WHAT THE CHRISTIANS ARE DOING. And for that matter, i dont agree with the way some people are reacting towards them either. All im saying is that u have to see it from their point of view as well, dont jump to conclusions, if not u are doing the exact same thing that they are doing!! Get it?!??!
somehow i always end up in these sort of topics that ends in arguments..
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DUHHHHHH, of course we do change.Originally posted by ugo_gal:living things mutate, it's inevitable that we change when the world is changing every minute. our body cells are changing every minute too. dun bluff that ur opinions dun change and stay like that forever, it shows that u r so immature. we do change, cuz we are exposed to so many things...so bluffing urself that u will think the same as b4 when u watched a speech in the show or wherever. it shows that u dun analyze stuffs and stay like a wood. we do change our opinions towards ppl and life, but i didnt mention abt my belief. I'm just saying that if u allow everything the media does to change the things u really believe in, then u must be pretty sad. Obviously in some way we are going to be influenced, whether we like it or not, but some people just believe everything that they see on TV without questioning it.
Btw, i think ur username is really cute! =P