Originally posted by summerain22:all i know is that if u are not on anybodys side then why bother making so much noise in here??claiming that u do not agree with the christains,then telling me that i m dirty too...oh...so u can throw mud at everyone here and stay clean yourself???how holy...get a stage my frd...i m sure u will make loadsa $$$ like some big churches in here....
Is this all it is to you??! About choosing sides? Whose side i'm on doesn't matter, cant u see that?!?!Did u even read my previous posts??
I'm going to say this once and for all
[b] I AM NOT ON ANYONE'S SIDE, BUT FOR THE RECORD, I DONT AGREE WITH WHAT THE CHRISTIANS ARE DOING. And for that matter, i dont agree with the way some people are reacting towards them either. All im saying is that u have to see it from their point of view as well, dont jump to conclusions, if not u are doing the exact same thing that they are doing!! Get it?!??!
somehow i always end up in these sort of topics that ends in arguments..
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1st question: I have nothing against them, and i feel a little sorry for them. I have a really gd friend who is gay, and i know how he feels.Originally posted by the Bear:simple question:
what do you think of gay people?
another:
would you speak out against your own church if they condemned the gay people and sought to block letting the gay people hold normal jobs?
SHOW ME IN MY POSTS WHERE I SAID THAT GAYS ARE DIRTY!! DID I EVER SAY THAT?? DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAYS!! GET THAT IN UR HEAD!!! YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CLAIMS THAT PEOPLE ARE CALLING U DIRTY.. WELL JUST SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT GAYS ARE DIRTY! GO ON!!Originally posted by ratinacage:all i know is that if u are not on anybodys side then why bother making so much noise in here??claiming that u do not agree with the christains,then telling me that i m dirty too...oh...so u can throw mud at everyone here and stay clean yourself???how holy...get a stage my frd...i m sure u will make loadsa $$$ like some big churches in here....
always???
i rest my case!!
then u r making assumption. i didnt mention that i allow media to change the things i believe, i do what i think it's right and i eliminate ideas that i think are bad and i accept ideas that i believe it's right. it's all about autonomy and socialisation. duhhhOriginally posted by summerain22:DUHHHHHH, of course we do change.![]()
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I'm just saying that if u allow everything the media does to change the things u really believe in, then u must be pretty sad. Obviously in some way we are going to be influenced, whether we like it or not, but some people just believe everything that they see on TV without questioning it.
Btw, i think ur username is really cute! =P
Originally posted by summerain22:1st question: I have nothing against them, and i feel a little sorry for them. I have a really gd friend who is gay, and i know how he feels.
2nd question: If i did, i would certainly not go about it the way Azrael has done. Do u really expect people to take u seriously when u tell them to fcuk off? It's childish. Like, "Oh yeah, i dont agree with what ure doing, so fcuk off."![]()
Who am I to question what they are doing? And on the other hand, who are they to want to stop gays from holding normal jobs? I just want everyone to live and let live.
And i didn't say that u said that. Duhhhh..Originally posted by ugo_gal:then u r making assumption. i didnt mention that i allow media to change the things i believe, i do what i think it's right and i eliminate ideas that i think are bad and i accept ideas that i believe it's right. it's all about autonomy and socialisation. duhhh
oh thankz for putting a 'cute' label on my nick.![]()
Originally posted by ugo_gal:living things mutate, it's inevitable that we change when the world is changing every minute. our body cells are changing every minute too. dun bluff that ur opinions dun change and stay like that forever, it shows that u r so immature. we do change, cuz we are exposed to so many things...so bluffing urself that u will think the same as b4 when u watched a speech in the show or wherever. it shows that u dun analyze stuffs and stay like a wood. we do change our opinions towards ppl and life, but i didnt mention abt my belief.
So if u disagree, what u'd do is just ask them to screw themelves? Is that it? ANd i suppose that in this way, u are not betraying or shaming God?Originally posted by the Bear:here's the thing.. if some church came up to me and ranted against someone else who is different, i would... in no uncertain terms...
these churches represents what is essentially MY FAITH and MY GOD have betrayed and shamed MY FAITH and MY GOD... silence is consent... by keeping quiet, i would be condoning their actions... and i would be betraying not only myself and my conscience, but God Himself!
by telling them to screw themselves would be the immediate reaction and after thinking it over, i would not have done anything else...
muahahahahaha....i said u said gays were dirty???u seriously need your eyes checked...or brain rearrange....HELLO....read the posts ernestly pls....Originally posted by summerain22:SHOW ME IN MY POSTS WHERE I SAID THAT GAYS ARE DIRTY!! DID I EVER SAY THAT?? DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAYS!!
Oh, so suddenly i need to take a side in order to post something on here. Pfft..
Honestly, some people need a serious reality check..
ugh.. i give up!![]()
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if you all read this, would there b any more arguements in regards to christain perspective?Originally posted by duotiga83:
i guess u r someone whose mind is as straight as a bamboo. bo bian, toking to a bamboo would only waste my time and energy.. u r reminded me of someone, who is SELF CENTRED. u noe what's ego-centrism? it's a developmental stage in toddler and i guess that u r one of them.Originally posted by summerain22:And i didn't say that u said that. Duhhhh..
All i said was, that u are sad if u allow the media to change what u believe in. I still stand by what i said.
muahahahahaha.....U GO GAL!!!!!Originally posted by ugo_gal:i guess u r someone whose mind is as straight as a bamboo. bo bian, toking to a bamboo would only waste my time and energy.. u r reminded me of someone, who is SELF CENTRED. u noe what's ego-centrism? it's a developmental stage in toddler and i guess that u r one of them.
not cool
You need ur eyes checked! Either that, or need english classes. Yes, u said that I said gays were dirty. Here it is:Originally posted by ratinacage:muahahahahaha....i said u said gays were dirty???u seriously need your eyes checked...or brain rearrange....HELLO....read the posts ernestly pls....
where the fcuk did u get that???oh, cos i said u said i was dirty???![]()
ya i know u have nothing against gays...and i m sure u have nothing against the ppl who hunt them down just so they can hang them up to burn them either....
okie point taken....happy now???u can eat and sleep now???![]()
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Oh, so now we are resorting to name-calling are we? SO who is the immature one? That u have nothing else to say, so u resort to labelling others?Originally posted by ugo_gal:i guess u r someone whose mind is as straight as a bamboo. bo bian, toking to a bamboo would only waste my time and energy.. u r reminded me of someone, who is SELF CENTRED. u noe what's ego-centrism? it's a developmental stage in toddler and i guess that u r one of them.
not cool
er...if u think the " telling me that i m dirty too" means i m gay.u are oh so wrong....muahahahahahaOriginally posted by summerain22:You need ur eyes checked! Either that, or need english classes. Yes, u said that I said gays were dirty. Here it is:
Your post:
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all i know is that if u are not on anybodys side then why bother making so much noise in here??claiming that u do not agree with the christains,then telling me that i m dirty too...oh...so u can throw mud at everyone here and stay clean yourself???how holy...get a stage my frd...i m sure u will make loadsa $$$ like some big churches in here....
always???
i rest my case!!
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Oh, so now u're saying i have nothing against people who hang and burn them? WHat's next?
Originally posted by ratinacage:er...if u think the " telling me that i m dirty too" means i m gay.u are oh so wrong....muahahahahaha
bingo! and that's u. self centre is just a comment, and u dun need to admit it to me. it really shows that ur mind is as straight as a bambooOriginally posted by summerain22:Oh, so now we are resorting to name-calling are we? SO who is the immature one? That u have nothing else to say, so u resort to labelling others?
Who is the self centered one?
oh jux becos i m no gay....??Originally posted by summerain22:Whatver.. i dont care anymore.
Originally posted by summerain22:So if u disagree, what u'd do is just ask them to screw themelves? Is that it? ANd i suppose that in this way, u are not betraying or shaming God?
Really? And to me, u are the self-centred one. Your way of debating shows ur level of maturity. Because someone doesn't agree, u say that they have "minds as straight as a bamboo". Welcome to the real world, not everyone thinks like u.Originally posted by ugo_gal:bingo! and that's u. self centre is just a comment, and u dun need to admit it to me. it really shows that ur mind is as straight as a bamboo
Then arent u being a hypocrite too? Yes, they are wrong, and they too deserve our love.Originally posted by the Bear:it isn't disagreement... it is their hypocrisy that disgusts me.. and puts off a lot of people... with good cause too...
from one side of the mouth, they speak of loving their neighbour
the other side sprouts hatred for people different
did Jesus shame God when he threw out the people from the temple when they turned it into a bazaar?
i don't seek to call myself God, but i know when people try to sow seeds of hatred and invoke God's name to do so... the God they profess to and the God i know is the God of Love... where Love is, God is... hatred has no place in God's world, so where the heck did these self-professed "speakers for God" get their hatred from?
Pharisees
No. I dont care about posting my opinions anymore. I'm gonna keep them to myself.Originally posted by ratinacage:oh jux becos i m no gay....??
bye bye then.....ta...
well, who's not in the real world friend? i have my opinions and beliefs, and u were the one who kept bombing me in the first place. and from the arguments that u had with others, it's just a guess or maybe a comment for u. why take it so seriously? maybe i bingo?Originally posted by summerain22:Really? And to me, u are the self-centred one. Your way of debating shows ur level of maturity. Because someone doesn't agree, u say that they have "minds as straight as a bamboo". Welcome to the real world, not everyone thinks like u.
I have my beliefs, and u have urs. Why resort to this? I am not gonna slag u off for it.