Ang mohs try to act superior in Singapore
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what??? at least we ( the chinese ) KEEPS our SURNAME with our christian names..Originally posted by rivereast:there's some truth in there, isn't it? leaving Christians out of it (due to relgious practice) how many Chinese you know have English (or Christian) name? too many!! why? because they feel that their Chinese name isn't good enough. You don't see many of other races doing that....
well...look around.. and u will find lots of INDIANS using FULL ENGLISH NAMES...they ditched their traditional indian name for the ang moh ones....
i really have no respect for these people...dont even want to recognise their own roots and ancestors -
ok. so you're richer than the average S'porean. anyway look at the way they spend on luxuries (residence, dining and booze, designer apparel). they obviously can afford to live the high life during their stint in S'pore. they owe their high status here to their countries of origin. they have been developed nations for much longer than S'pore not just economically but also in terms of international influence. that accounts for why some locals think caucasians are superior.Originally posted by edwinSSM:I dun think they have a fatter pay cheque than the locals leh... wat makes u say that they have a fatter pay cheque than us? -
Oh u are talking about those who are being sent to Singapore to work in their companies In SG. They are different lah, all their accomodations, dining, boozing are taken care of by their company, tat's why they can live the high life. But there are some angmohs who just came to try their luck in our tiny Singapore but are only earning as much as an average singaporean. And i'm also an average Singaporean.Originally posted by boy in blues:ok. so you're richer than the average S'porean. anyway look at the way they spend on luxuries (residence, dining and booze, designer apparel). they obviously can afford to live the high life during their stint in S'pore. they owe their high status here to their countries of origin. they have been developed nations for much longer than S'pore not just economically but also in terms of international influence. that accounts for why some locals think caucasians are superior. -
I think the key point here is SOME locals think that Angmohs are more influential and superior than themselves. And SOME others see them as trying to act superior and have hatred for them. And others including myself sees them as nothing different from us locals except that they look different.
And yes i do have a christian name, I'm not even a christian! My parents put it into my Birthcert, not that i wanted them to... Given a choice, i've always used my chinese name in most situation. -
i think those indians with FULL ENGLISH NAMES are because they are Christian... may be I am wrong, but those few that I know, are due to this reason.Originally posted by Prodigy:what??? at least we ( the chinese ) KEEPS our SURNAME with our christian names..
well...look around.. and u will find lots of INDIANS using FULL ENGLISH NAMES...they ditched their traditional indian name for the ang moh ones....
i really have no respect for these people...dont even want to recognise their own roots and ancestors -
then have you ever think why as a Chinese and non-Christian, you need a Christian name? well at least you did not give one to yourself, but there are many who have christian names and are not registered in their birth certs. ever wonder why they do it?Originally posted by ditzy:I'm not Christian and yes I do have a christian name that goes with my chinese name since my birth cert. And the reason ain't because my name ain't good enough or my parents or me feel inferior.
you say that you have a christian name not because your chinese name isn't good enough, so do you know the real reason?
chinese names are not difficult to call out or pronounce because you are a Chinese. i too find Chinese, Indian and Malay names easy to pronounce due to familiarity. but to ang mos, these are very alien words with different phonetics.
I know alot of chinese who don't have christian names as well and it ain't because chinese names are hard to call out. You might want to rethink your statements.
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Originally posted by SmallPanda:
Guys!! Why do you all sound so scared of angmo?
Trust me, having gone to school in a white country for many years they are definitely NOT tough guys. I used to beat the !%%^ out of them all them time. Me against a whole bunch of them me against 5 or 6 or 7 of them. I beat the !%%^ out of all of them!
Its all in the attitude okay? Even if you are small just beat them with a bat or something. Myself i am only 80 kg, but very muscular and ferocious and an attitude that other people are just inferior to me. So beat the !%%^ out of these people! Just imagine them pissing on your mother or something to get yourself very angry first, then smash their face! Its all in your attitude! Be aggressive! [/b]
SMallpanda, sound off your weight and height pls. Thank you.[/b][/quote]
hummm...sound like a show I have watched.....producted during the... errh... 70's. I think it is called: enter of the dragon by bruce lee......... -
Originally posted by euphratis:
Originally posted by SmallPanda:
Guys!! Why do you all sound so scared of angmo?
Trust me, having gone to school in a white country for many years they are definitely NOT tough guys. I used to beat the !%%^ out of them all them time. Me against a whole bunch of them me against 5 or 6 or 7 of them. I beat the !%%^ out of all of them!
Its all in the attitude okay? Even if you are small just beat them with a bat or something. Myself i am only 80 kg, but very muscular and ferocious and an attitude that other people are just inferior to me. So beat the !%%^ out of these people! Just imagine them pissing on your mother or something to get yourself very angry first, then smash their face! Its all in your attitude! Be aggressive!
SMallpanda, sound off your weight and height pls. Thank you.[/b] hummm...sound like a show I have watched.....producted during the... errh... 70's. I think it is called: enter of the dragon by bruce lee......... [/b][/quote]my favorite is another show called 'the chinese connection' aka 'fist of fury'. some people said he acted like a psycho, i think he's pure intensity and white hot fury. but being a victim of racial discrimination at that time and place (Jap invasion of China), anybody would feel like beating the daylights out of his antagonists. he did it very nicely. -
sigh...i also have christian name printed on my BC
did ask my parents y they said in the 70s having a christian name is 'in' thing mah, not because of any particular reason lah 
anyway i seldom use it, only when interacting with ppl (ang mo) who got problem with chinese name. -
COUNTERPUNCH
Waiting in vain for Asian American leads
by Robert M. Payne
Save for one point, Lorenza Munoz did a fine job of canvassing critical views of "The Last Samurai" in her article headlined "Cruise's 'Samurai': A Battle of Opinions" (Dec. 10). Unfortunately, the story gave short shrift to the impact of Hollywood's Eurocentrism upon Asian Americans.
Munoz followed activist Jennifer Kuo's criticism of the movie-it being one more in a long line of Asian stories told through white eyes- with a non sequitor: director Edward Zwick saying that the Japanese have "no problem" with a Hollywood actor making a movie about their culture.
Zwick's statement does not address the issue that Kuo raises: "Hollywood's insistence that stories of non-Western cultures have Western lead characters. I'm sure the Japanese don't mind this because they have ready access to their own movies with Japanese protagonists. The same does not hold true for Asian Americans.
If you're Asian American, you have great difficulty finding lead characters in your domestic entertainment industry who look like you.
Hollywood's focus on capturing the majority white audience has created media role models who are overwhelmingly non-Asian. Rarely does an English-language Hollywood movie allow an Asian character to rise above playing second fiddle to a white lead. And an Asian character will usually be the villain, the sidekick, the buffoon or the female love interest.
Hollywood has a long history of putting Caucasian protagonists at the center of Asian and Asian American narratives: "Go for Broke! (1951), "Hawaii" (1966), "Shogun" (1980), "Tai-Pan" (1986), "Come See the Paradise" (1990), "Seven Years in Tibet" (1997). The list goes on.
Especially infuriating are the great lengths to which the industry will go to accomodate a white lead where an Asian protagonist would be more logical. For instance, when playwright David Henry Hwang ("M. Butterfly") sold NBC on his idea to turn the centuries-old Chinese novel "Journey to the West" into a miniseries, the network would produce it only if the writer would interpolate a white male lead and an Asian female love interest into the story. The result was the disastrous "Lost Empire" (2001).
By contrast, top-billed Asian stars in English-language Hollywood productions are as scarce as hen's teeth. And even commercially successful works with Asian lead characters, such as "The Last Emperor" (1987) and "The Joy Luck Club" (1993), have not led to A-list Hollywood stardom for their actors.
The cumulative effect of this practice creates the impression among American audiences that Asian people are not as important as Westerners. If you want to be cool, if you want to be the hero, if you want to get the girl-our popular culture seems to say-you can't be Asian. And this message insults Asian American viewers.
Another effect is the constant relegation of Hollywood's Asian actors beneath a racial glass ceiling.
Jackie Chan, Jet Li and Chow Yun-Fat have all gained a foothold in America, but their careers were nurtured not by Hollywood but by Hong Kong. Lucy Liu has achieved a kind of stardom, but she has yet to headline her own solo starring vehicle, and no other Asian American actor comes close to her standing in the industry.
Money and markets may very well be Hollywood's innocent motive for its insistence on white leads. But the undeniable effect-however unwitting-is racial discrimination, in both the content of the stories and the industry's hiring practices.
Hollywood can counter this by making more movies with Asians and Asian Americans as lead characters, not just as supporting characters. But the industry first needs to acknowledge that a problem exists, rather than defensively justifying the status quo.
In the meantime, compare the prestige surrounding "The Last Samurai" to the impossibility of mounting a serious occidental historical epic with an Asian main character. Just imagine trying to sell an American studio executive on the idea of "The Last Cowboy" starring Chow Yun-Fat.
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Robert M. Payne is a writer and screenplay analyst in Studio City.
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subudei, what's your point?
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Don't be daft.
There are some people on this forum (e.g. Lingos) who always unfailingly leap promptly to the defence of the West and white men. I guess we know what their dating preferences are. I guess they deserve it when they get dagger-stares in the streets. -
Hey, I thought you were the one who objected to not having proper discussions. I asked you the question because you posted the article without providing commentary about how it fits into your overall argument. The least you could do is return the courtesy.
Besides, you never addressed my last response to you, which would make the posted article a moot point anyway. -
Besides, you're missing the forest for the trees here. It's not a case of leaping to the defence of the West or white men - it's a case of objecting to sweeping generalisations.
There's already been a lot of bad blood preceding this thread about this issue, in case you haven't come across the older threads. If you want to have a proper debate as you claim, don't buy into the mudslinging - it only serves to detract from your argument. -
No response? Well, I think that says it all - no more breaks.
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I've defended some Singaporeans. Ged is one.Originally posted by subudei:Don't be daft.
There are some people on this forum (e.g. Lingos) who always unfailingly leap promptly to the defence of the West and white men. I guess we know what their dating preferences are. I guess they deserve it when they get dagger-stares in the streets.
Numb nuts are excluded as such..
Anyway what's it to you? Trying to get the most patriotic Yellow fever award? -
Anyone can build a case by loud mouthing, mindless rhetoric, and building up straw figures to tear down, that is all too easy.
But volume does not equal logic or truth.
Sweeping generalizations and using sterotypes of whites as people who come here to throw bread hardly impresses me coming from somebody claiming to have any sort of a logical case.
This joker is arguing from a very obvious victim mentality and severe inferiority complex where the entire world is just set wrong against him. Sadly, this is what sets him apart from the constructive, rational problem solvers.
I am not impressed. -
Hmm.. i'm not always defending caucasians. If you guys bother to do your research, i have called them white trailer trash on pension cards.
So.. make sure you know what you are talking about. -
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This thread is still going on!???!!
LOL
Please, Lingos and Ged, open up a big can of STFU!
No one cares what you think of Singaporeans or Chinese or whatever. We are what we are. If you don't consider yourself Chinese anymore, good on you! Enjoy your new life! What part of "stop shoving this crap down our throats" don't you two understand? -
Oh look, the kung fu hero's back! How many kids have you beaten up today, Hong Kong Fooey? Don't you just feel so brave now?
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Hmm.. Small is back.. must to back to diss more people to make himself feel superior. Have ya been turned down by too many chinese chicks and you've come back to top up your itty bitty little ego?
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Nah, Ling - the kids he beat up went and told their older sisters.
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HAHHAHA... and the older sisters went to tell their grandmothers to avenge their brother's bruises.Originally posted by Gedanken:Nah, Ling - the kids he beat up went and told their older sisters. -
Ow - kung fu boy got the Ah Ma treatment? Can't see how that would make a difference, though - castration doesn't have much of an effect when the victim's already emasculated!