Three crimes have been commited by the woman here: rape, drug use and blackmail. Why should the man bear any responsibilities when your example clearly shows him being the victim?Originally posted by Gordonator:i give a example,
there's this very horny girl in a bar, she saw a man she likes very much. but the man refuses her cos he love his wife very much. then she drugged the man in his drink and carry him to a hotel and have sex with him. without the man knowing since he is unconscious.
then a months later the girl come to find the man and tells him that she is pregnant with his baby (just assume that the baby is really his) and wants him to hold responsiblities for the baby.
so how? should the man hold responsibility, eventhough he knew nothing of it?
Surely thoust jests... That's not rape. Rape is when you clearly tell your woman that you do not want to have sex (no means no) but she insists and overpowers you, usually physically, and has sexual intercourse with you. The fact that you allowed her to indulge in foreplay with you means you did not say no. In the first place, would you dare say no to your girlfriend?Originally posted by forum_man:My gf sometimes also rape me....i very tired dun wanna have sex but she will keep caressing, fondling, blowing, and do kinda stuffs to turn me on...is that call rape as well...
Certainly. Why is it that most men wake up with an erection? It shows that it can't really be controlled. Studies have also shown that even when men are being sexually assaulted, they can also have an erection. Also, it has also been shown that women show signs of sexual arousal when they're becme victims of rape. It still boils down to the bottom line - No means no.Originally posted by shandower:Can the guy get it up if he's unconscious?
Err ... how can you rape an unconscious man ?! drunk man yes ... but unconscious ?Originally posted by Gordonator:i give a example,
there's this very horny girl in a bar, she saw a man she likes very much. but the man refuses her cos he love his wife very much. then she drugged the man in his drink and carry him to a hotel and have sex with him. without the man knowing since he is unconscious.
then a months later the girl come to find the man and tells him that she is pregnant with his baby (just assume that the baby is really his) and wants him to hold responsiblities for the baby.
so how? should the man hold responsibility, eventhough he knew nothing of it?
Define 'rape'...Originally posted by meander:Err ... how can you rape an unconscious man ?! drunk man yes ... but unconscious ?
Can. As someone has already mentioned, the genitals can be aroused without co-operation of the mind. It's body response to stimuli. Just that it's easier when the person (gur or girl) is willing.Originally posted by meander:Err ... how can you rape an unconscious man ?! drunk man yes ... but unconscious ?
I understand you have the right to your opinion, and noble as you put it, I'll still have to disagree with your reasoning. Dude, you've just been raped. You may sound ready to be a father now, but what if the incident happened when you're not ready to father the child or any child for that matter? The point is that you said no. And no includes no to having a child. Raping a man is no different from raping a woman. It's not about penis or vagina; it's about the abuse power. If you agreed to father the child, it would justify her actions and free her from her crime. Protecting the child? No, you're protecting the culprit. No means no.Originally posted by SumOne:Can. As someone has already mentioned, the genitals can be aroused without co-operation of the mind. It's body response to stimuli. Just that it's easier when the person (gur or girl) is willing.
If such a scenario happens to me, I would agree to being responsible, but I would make it very clear also that it's because I feel something as a father of the child, and not because of any relationship with the woman. Like it or not, the baby carries my genes.
Guess I should have been clearer, to be responsible I don't necessarily mean bringing up the child. Basically, I mean to say that I won't stand aside and do nothing. Whether it be to tell her to get an abortion or give the child up for adoption, basically I would want to be involved in making the decision.Originally posted by Possum:I understand you have the right to your opinion, and noble as you put it, I'll still have to disagree with your reasoning. Dude, you've just been raped. You may sound ready to be a father now, but what if the incident happened when you're not ready to father the child or any child for that matter? The point is that you said no. And no includes no to having a child. Raping a man is no different from raping a woman. It's not about penis or vagina; it's about the abuse power. If you agreed to father the child, it would justify her actions and free her from her crime. Protecting the child? No, you're protecting the culprit. No means no.
Bring it on!!
There are single mothers out there who take a man into bed and taking his seed so that she may give birth to a healthy child. They just don't want to have a partner to help raise the child that the man has somehow played a part in creating it in the first place (dripping sarcasm). Some men know about it while some men don't. I think if she came back a few years later asking (or demanding) for money, it's already too late. You don't have a choice, do you?Originally posted by SumOne:Guess I should have been clearer, to be responsible I don't necessarily mean bringing up the child. Basically, I mean to say that I won't stand aside and do nothing. Whether it be to tell her to get an abortion or give the child up for adoption, basically I would want to be involved in making the decision.
True, the pregnancy may not be what I want but I will at least do something about it and not standby do nothing. What if you leave the woman to her own guises, then she keeps the child and years later she comes back to you asking for money to help rear the child?
I would say being part of being responsible is seeing whether you have the ability and means to give the child a good life, and a good family for that matter. So being unable to do that, I would press for an abortion in that case.
Originally posted by Possum:I stand corrected. It seems he's talking about babies and pregnancies. Your definition stands.
Perhaps the originator of this thread could clarify that?
Bring it on!![/b]
So....is that why they say "die co*k stand' or "die co*k standing"?...Originally posted by Possum:Certainly. Why is it that most men wake up with an erection? It shows that it can't really be controlled. Studies have also shown that even when men are being sexually assaulted, they can also have an erection. Also, it has also been shown that women show signs of sexual arousal when they're becme victims of rape. It still boils down to the bottom line - No means no.
Bring it on!!
To your first query, you'd like to know that when a man dies and his body goes through rigor mortis (hope I spelt that right), his penis will become erect. But I believe that phrase came from dying while feeling frustrated or having regrets.Originally posted by euphratis:So....is that why they say "die co*k stand' or "die co*k standing"?...
Let say the woman wants to rape & kill....wonder if still can erection at gun point? .......![]()
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but how to get e medal..by e time it finish all the "nutrients" gone le...Originally posted by the.raven:really ah? next time Olympics singapore can send sperms to participate in swimming competition.
u veri fake lehx.Originally posted by forum_man:My gf sometimes also rape me....i very tired dun wanna have sex but she will keep caressing, fondling, blowing, and do kinda stuffs to turn me on...is that call rape as well...