So many posts on abortions!!!
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I apologise to the thread starter and everyone reading or had contributed to this thread. Sorry that it had come to this.
I wish, I am sure together with many others here, all the best to everyone and I pray that none of us will have to go through this terrible experience.
To those who are suffering or had suffered, my heart goes out to you all. Please take care. post in AA or call the helpline. There is always someone out there willing and prepared to help.
take care
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life would be far worse if you decide to keep it.Originally posted by SnowFlag:abortion means taking the life of an unborn baby.
Even if no other ppl knows, life will never be the same for them when they take this route.
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Originally posted by mellowed:
The human race is doomed. Poor white trash breeding like f'king bunnies.
ermm.. my previous got too long... anyway i was sharing a testimony... don't mind if i share another one from the same website....
[b]Trying to Survive
By Judith Evans
My childhood was brutal. I was abandoned by my father when I was two-and-a-half. Then when he reappeared in my life again at the age of eight, it became worse. I survived incest, starvation, and beatings. I clung to life.
It was the two abortions I had that nearly destroyed me.
When I became pregnant for the fifth time in seven years, my doctor asked me if I really thought I should "continue the pregnancy." Abortion had never occurred to me until he suggested it.
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And the rich upper class have one or two kids. -
Thought I said leave it already? Then you have to post this. Irrelevant post indeed. Whatever man, whatever. Enough of you already.Originally posted by supercharger:Tsk Tsk... this is what happens when a thread is invaded by irrelevant posters nick picking bits
just as you are entitled to your opinon about me and my post so am I entitled to my opinion about your post. RIGHT?
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sounds reasonable to me.Originally posted by boy in blues:i think the only consideration we should have is the irreversible physical damage done to the girl's body undergoing abortion. the death of an unborn baby is not an issue at all. personally, i've always felt the worth of someone's life is proportional to the impact it has created on someone else. therefore, an unborn baby even if it's mine, yet to be nurtured, having no life experience and no influence on anybody is as good as non-existant. in any critical event, i'd rather the mother's life be saved over the unborn baby's. no second thoughts at all. babies can be made anytime. a life partner is much harder to replace -
No right or wrong answer here, just wanted to understand your mindset a little more. But given to others, saving the people would rather just be the humane thing to do, and not so much about whether the animals will get eaten or not (horses don't get eaten do they?).
the main reason i chose to save the human wasnt on the animals being eaten. it was the intelligence of the human. the thing about being eaten is just a bonus. why dont u read? -
I read, didn't say that was your main reason. Just that most people might not even think of that under the situation. As I said, no right or wrong answer. Just trying to understand how you think.Originally posted by Suicine:the main reason i chose to save the human wasnt on the animals being eaten. it was the intelligence of the human. the thing about being eaten is just a bonus. why dont u read? -
oh, okOriginally posted by SumOne:I read, didn't say that was your main reason. Just that most people might not even think of that under the situation. As I said, no right or wrong answer. Just trying to understand how you think.
however, if i were given the choice to save horses or convicts given the death sentence in like a week or so, i would save the horses. -
shrugs. i feel sometimes some people are just really stupid. either that or purposefully ignorant.
read this post by this fella who felt that abortion wasn't wrong, and compared it with milliions of sperms splashing out every night/day/whatever. nothing wrong with his opinion that there is something wrong with abortion, whether it showed how heartless he is or not. but i just find it ridiculous that he would compare, intelligent life, something which breathes, thinks, feeds, grows, something with emotions, needs and dreams. to something which doesn't have those.
no one ever weeps when someone gets cut and spills blood. but people do weep for lost lives. how can any intelligent being compare a baby, a foetus, with blood and sperms?
and as for comparing with animals... you'll notice the law is that, killing animals isn't against the law, (i'm not talking about purposefully killing a living creature for the sick fun of it) but it is only considered murder when a human being kills another human. there is nothing wrong with humans eating animals. but it is wrong for a human to eat another human.
all i want to say is this. its fine with me if you agree with the act of abortion, but please don't justify it using lame comparison. at least use something substantial to justify that act of murder. yea, killing a human being is murder. plain and simple.
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Originally posted by dumbdumb!:
so the law dictates what suffers and what doesnt when you kill them? the fetus is killed; the farm animals are TORTURED FOR LIFE. are you such a no brainer that you just accept whatever people tell you? ie killing animals are fine just because the law says so, while you think killing a fetus is not (its actually legal). dont forget that the leaders are humans too, they were taught to eat meat from young and they have to satisfy people who want to eat meat. meat is not necessary for survival too, in fact if the whole world became vegetarian there would be so much extra food going around.
shrugs. i feel sometimes some people are just really stupid. either that or purposefully ignorant.
read this post by this fella who felt that abortion wasn't wrong, and compared it with milliions of sperms splashing out every night/day/whatever. nothing wrong with his opinion that there is something wrong with abortion, whether it showed how heartless he is or not. but i just find it ridiculous that he would compare, intelligent life, something which breathes, thinks, feeds, grows, something with emotions, needs and dreams. to something which doesn't have those.
no one ever weeps when someone gets cut and spills blood. but people do weep for lost lives. how can any intelligent being compare a baby, a foetus, with blood and sperms?
and as for comparing with animals... you'll notice the law is that, killing animals isn't against the law, (i'm not talking about purposefully killing a living creature for the sick fun of it) but it is only considered murder when a human being kills another human. there is nothing wrong with humans eating animals. but it is wrong for a human to eat another human.
all i want to say is this. its fine with me if you agree with the act of abortion, but please don't justify it using lame comparison. at least use something substantial to justify that act of murder. yea, killing a human being is murder. plain and simple.
and i don't agree with abortion.. and murder
its murder so? whats wrong with murdering a tadpole-like creature that only sits in the belly and waits for food to be pumped into its tummy when you are everyday already killing billions of animals capable of much more stuff? its not even a person yet, its a parasite living in a woman.
now can someone finally tell me what is so special about a human life? (why can we torture billions of animals for life but not kill unwanted babies?) -
(why can we torture billions of animals for life but not kill unwanted babies?)
especially when its perfectly legal to abort. you tell me that killing animals for food is fine because the law says so; abortion is also legal wad, why are you so against it? -
well if you equate human life with animal life....
1) Castrating you is actually okay... since castrating dogs and cats is common practise.. especially if they make a lot of noise when they want to mate and going around bonking any same spieces of the opposite sex (kind to think of it, it's not unlike some horny ppl we have in the forum)... I think the society won't mind... in fact most girls might welcome it and oh we don't really care if you don't want to be castrated. Since when do we care about feelings of animals on this kind of thing (it's just too troublesome rite?)
2) When someone kills you, they would actually get off by saying "hey it's the same as killing a chicken in the farm. it's okay". And you wouldn't actually mind because human life and animal life is the same value.
There is an interesting scene from the movie Alien Resurrection which kind of shows what an abortion is about. Remember towards the end, there is this alien hybrid (by alien queen and alien mod Ripley). It does not have a external shell (exo skeleton) like most alien but more like human with internal bone structure (endo skeleton). Anyway, bring ur attention to how the alien died. A small opening at the armor of the spaceship causes a great suction sucking the big alien out and ripping it up as it is sucked out of the spaceship. Then you can see pieces of flesh flying out of the spaceship etc...
The suction tube is one of the method of abortion. It uses great suction sucking and ripping the unborn baby into pieces. The suction is so strong that it also cause physical damage to the womb.
I guess most people would find it repulsive if we use a suction tube to kill a kitten, a puppy or maybe a rabbit. Most ppl would have screamed for jail sentences etc. But doing it to an unborn child is okay... it's legal... it's socially acceptable because we don't really see what happened to the unborn baby? because it's troublesome to raise a child? gee i am so glad you are not "aborted"/abandon when you become troublesome to your parents when you were your mother's womb. -
1) Castrating you is actually okay... since castrating dogs and cats is common practise.. especially if they make a lot of noise when they want to mate and going around bonking any same spieces of the opposite sex (kind to think of it, it's not unlike some horny ppl we have in the forum)... I think the society won't mind... in fact most girls might welcome it and oh we don't really care if you don't want to be castrated. Since when do we care about feelings of animals on this kind of thing (it's just too troublesome rite?)
if animals actually knew how to use protection and knew how to go for abortion by themselves, then castration on animals is unnecessary. if humans were to mindlessly have sex, breed like wildfire until it causes disruption to society and wont listen, then forced castration on these humans is a viable option.2) When someone kills you, they would actually get off by saying "hey it's the same as killing a chicken in the farm. it's okay". And you wouldn't actually mind because human life and animal life is the same value.
i would mind lor, becos i want to live on just as much as all other living things would want to. if you want to speak up for the fetus, why not u speak up for the animals too?There is an interesting scene from the movie Alien Resurrection which kind of shows what an abortion is about. Remember towards the end, there is this alien hybrid (by alien queen and alien mod Ripley). It does not have a external shell (exo skeleton) like most alien but more like human with internal bone structure (endo skeleton). Anyway, bring ur attention to how the alien died. A small opening at the armor of the spaceship causes a great suction sucking the big alien out and ripping it up as it is sucked out of the spaceship. Then you can see pieces of flesh flying out of the spaceship etc...
not if you do it to a big tadpole, a small frog, a bug etc
The suction tube is one of the method of abortion. It uses great suction sucking and ripping the unborn baby into pieces. The suction is so strong that it also cause physical damage to the womb.
I guess most people would find it repulsive if we use a suction tube to kill a kitten, a puppy or maybe a rabbit. Most ppl would have screamed for jail sentences etc. But doing it to an unborn child is okay... it's legal... it's socially acceptable because we don't really see what happened to the unborn baby? because it's troublesome to raise a child? gee i am so glad you are not "aborted"/abandon when you become troublesome to your parents when you were your mother's womb.
the puppy, the kitten and the rabbit are already born out, that is why we get jail sentences for people who suction those animals. how often do you see people performing abortion on these animals? if people were to start doing abortion for these animals im sure the same methods would be used.
how often do you see people suctioning a born-out baby? heck its even illegal to do an abortion after like 6 months or something. -
Abortion is better than the alternative...ParenthoodOriginally posted by ahkico:Why nowadaes the people so irresponsible?
ISn birth control very known to almost everybody! And it is so easily available!!!
Haiz.. In a moment of passion, everythin is forgotten.. Only when something happen.. Then come to freak out abt it...
Anythin only - First idea tat comes to mind: Abortion..
(Sorry.. Gettin heated up..
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