Road hoggers vs tailgaters
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wat is so good abt tailgating? when 1 drives, he got to look far ahead to anticipate wat is happening in front. when u tailgate, wat can u see? buttock? especially MPV n SUV.
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A car at 90 on lane 1 is only labelled as "road hogger" by an approaching vehicle behind at a faster speed
To an impatient driver in a rush, wanting to speed, all vehicles blocking his path is labelled as a road hogger
To a driver who is cruising and not in a hurry, he finds nothing wrong with a car travelling at 90 on lane 1
Just like on a congested pathway, if you are in a hurry, the crowd in front of you walking slower than you is generally labelled as nuisance.
conclusion :
There's nothing wrong travelling at 85-90 on lane 1. if u encounter a tailgater wanting to overtake u on lane 1, he obviously must be speeding beyond 90, just ignore him and let the traffic police subdue him. Don't pay so much attention to him and instead, concentrate on your view in front
on normal road, there is nothing wrong travelling on rightmost lane at 45-50
i hope You guys don't come and tell me giving way to tailgating speedsters is a form of courtesy. load of rubbish. If you guys want to promote courtesy on singapore roads, try to get every driver to master the simple basic courtesy of signalling first.
i'm not trying to promote road hogging. i'm trying to promote everyone to drive at a safe speed of 90 to minimize traffic collisions. I see many drivers exceeding 90, don't come and tell me they are all sending their heart attack grandfather to hospital for treatment lol lol. -
Right, hmm..seems that you have a point there, what's this chap trying to tell us.Originally posted by Gazelle:Tomas what if some arsehole track down you car number plate and follow you home. While you are in bed making love to your wife, those arse hole start to make love to your car.
If you intentional road hog, we can always use our phone camera to film it down and send it to TP. What are you doing to say?
That is, tailgating is a act of menace. Tailgating vehicles is threatening us to give way, it's a gangster's act. correct.
Giving way to tailgating and speeding vehicles is succumbing to threatening by a gangster. Please don't do that.
When i run at 90 on lane 1, i don't see it a need to give way to vehicle travelling beyond 90 cos they are obviously speeding to me -
wake up your idea, road hogging itself won't cause accident. Cos road hogging is careful driving. Tailgating is impatient, risky and dangerous driving. Traffic accident happens because the rear vehicle fail to keep a safe distance to avoid banging into the front vehicle, not because the front vehicle is travelling slower than the rear vehicle. Go ask your fatherOriginally posted by VampireEB:Sigh ..hoggers still think he/she is damn right ..hogging thru the lane.
As they hogged on the right, pples can't overtake on right hence overtake on the left.. this is how accident occurred becos of the damn hoggers.. !! -
Sorry, My records is so far clean, never kenna demerit points for 11 years. also never kenna accidents beforeOriginally posted by jonathan_n80:well that jus speak much of how much common sense they got. Road hogger can argue all they wan but end of the day they jus show us how dumb they themselves are. But they are an enjoyment to read coz we seldom come across such dumb people. whahaha.. wonder their whole family are e same... boo hooo
dumb drivers are those who kenna nab by traffic police before and donate money to them haha -
You are trying to threaten me...i am sooooOoo scared...mama mi ahhhh....you are trying to promote gangster's act on the roadOriginally posted by PatrickLTH:You really touch a lot of raw nerves, make a lot of blood boil, and create a lot of sentiments and comments.
Road hogging is against the law. Road hogging is dangerous.
If you insist of driving at the right most lane at exactly at the legal speed of 90KmH at the 4 lanes expressway, and you expect all other cars that overtake you to do it from the left, you are road hogging. Traffic police may not be around all the time to take action. Other motorists will teach you a lesson, one way or the other, in their most ingenious way, and the least expected way.
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hahaha... guys let laugh again at how lack of common sense this thomas sick o genes are... look at all his statement.. i cant help but laugh. i think its e words of either inexperience driver or a woman driver.. either onehe still got lousy genes.. pityful
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lim peh here 11 years of clean record driving, if u kenna demerit points before, you are pityfulOriginally posted by jonathan_n80:hahaha... guys let laugh again at how lack of common sense this thomas sick o genes are... look at all his statement.. i cant help but laugh. i think its e words of either inexperience driver or a woman driver.. either onehe still got lousy genes.. pityful -
What I see is a driver who was trying to air his thought after an extended time of seeing how bad driver drive on the road. Somehow you think otherwise and I guess there is nothing wrong since to each their own opinion.Originally posted by jonathan_n80:hahaha... guys let laugh again at how lack of common sense this thomas sick o genes are... look at all his statement.. i cant help but laugh. i think its e words of either inexperience driver or a woman driver.. either onehe still got lousy genes.. pityful
A very clear point here which I am supportive to. Like I said few pages ahead, with proper signal most will/should give way. There are those who don't give way when signalled, and there are those who don't signal and tailgate, and obviously they don't come from this forum. Peace!Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:......If you guys want to promote courtesy on singapore roads, try to get every driver to master the simple basic courtesy of signalling first.
i'm not trying to promote road hogging. i'm trying to promote everyone to drive at a safe speed of 90 to minimize traffic collisions......
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and i pity those morons who speed and tailgate come out with c oc k and bull excuses like :
rushing to hospital to see dying love ones
rushing pregnant grandmothers and wifes to hospital to give birth
severe stomachache, want to pang sai, sai want to come out from backside
on CTE, PIE, at any second, i can easily detect 7-8 vehicles following closely behind one another and 80% of the vehicles are speeding, you guys are trying to tell me that most of those are rushing to hospitals, balls to you retard loser screwed up impatient punks -
then how about those who suka suka do lane changing,if got accident can really slow down to see or drive taking up 2 lanes if u know what i mean......
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Seen them, honk them, avoided them. Need to know they exist, nice to know you don't see them on a daily basis.Originally posted by NAMELESS WONDER:then how about those who suka suka do lane changing,if got accident can really slow down to see or drive taking up 2 lanes if u know what i mean...... -
not all are cock n bull storey ok...dun always think what u do n think is right...i once had to sent my 61 year old staff to the hospital becoz of heart attack...kena road hogger on the road...drove at 80 all the way...till today i remember his car plate..if that day...my staff were to KO becoz of him road hogging and not giving way to me..even when i high beam n horn him...i promise i will make him pay for it...nobody like to speed for nothing...Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:and i pity those morons who speed and tailgate come out with c oc k and bull excuses like :
rushing to hospital to see dying love ones
rushing pregnant grandmothers and wifes to hospital to give birth
severe stomachache, want to pang sai, sai want to come out from backside
on CTE, PIE, at any second, i can easily detect 7-8 vehicles following closely behind one another and 80% of the vehicles are speeding, you guys are trying to tell me that most of those are rushing to hospitals, balls to you retard loser screwed up impatient punks
I dun care whether pple like to speed in sg...coz its so easy to get a speeding ticket...so juz give way and let them be..coz if u dun give way, they will drive recklessly.thus, getting pple at lane 2 to step hard on their brakes... -
Originally posted by wbucket:
If u follow this thread closely, u will get what he mean...thomas words are contradicting...1st he say he likes to road hog and will travel slowly on the right lane....and not giving way too...now he says he is promoting safety driving.....CRAP !!
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What I see is a driver who was trying to air his thought after an extended time of seeing how bad driver drive on the road. Somehow you think otherwise and I guess there is nothing wrong since to each their own opinion.
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coz everyone travel at 70-80...thats y traffic jam...thats y traffic get pack..where vehicle distance r just bumper to bumper...yet in front of u the road is clear...pple behind gets all jam up...all thks to u...and u dont wan to move to the middle lane..u still wan to travel at 80 on right lane....Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:wake up your idea, road hogging itself won't cause accident. Cos road hogging is careful driving. Tailgating is impatient, risky and dangerous driving. Traffic accident happens because the rear vehicle fail to keep a safe distance to avoid banging into the front vehicle, not because the front vehicle is travelling slower than the rear vehicle. Go ask your father
Is this what u r doing now?? -
My advice to drivers is :
don't pay too much attention on tailgaters, cos they don't even deserve your attention on them, it's not wrong to drive at 90 on lane 1, u kenna tailgate by doing so, just concentrate on your view in front and ignore the tailgater, they don't dare to bang you one, even if they dare, they are at the losing end if a collision occur, let them pay for your car damage ..if they are in a hurry, that's their problem...the crux of it is always maintain your reasonable speed and don't exceed the limit...
there are always troublemakers and bad hats on every road who like to challenge the law, don't give in to them, instead, let the traffic police subdue them -
yes, and i will continue doing that, but i can tell you that if a traffic police approaches, the distances behind my car will open up and all the cars behind me will slow down to 70-80Originally posted by timqz:coz everyone travel at 70-80...thats y traffic jam...thats y traffic get pack..where vehicle distance r just bumper to bumper...yet in front of u the road is clear...pple behind gets all jam up...all thks to u...and u dont wan to move to the middle lane..u still wan to travel at 80 on right lane....
Is this what u r doing now??
once the traffic police gets out of sight, the vehicle distance behind me will revert to bumper and bumper
and may i assure you that i will not get booked for that. -
hahaha.....u can try...i dun really care either...sometimes its not a matter of getting book anot....its a matter of courtesy...i dun travel over 90 in sg too..unless urgent cases...but if i see cars tailgating me...i will move to the middle lane...reason is that i have been in the shoes of one that urgently need to go to the hospital...and i understand it..Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:yes, and i will continue doing that, but i can tell you that if a traffic police approaches, the distances behind my car will open up and all the cars behind me will slow down to 70-80
once the traffic police gets out of sight, the vehicle distance behind me will revert to bumper and bumper
and may i assure you that i will not get booked for that.
dun try ur luck to travel 70 on a 90 road....TP will not book u...but they will direct u to move to the middle or right lane...dun think there are any points charges on road hogging... -
Dear Sir, I know you are not wrong, you are right, very right and the law is on yr side; you are so perfect but only in the eye of the law. Does it hurt you if you are to move to the side and give way to the car behide you who wants to go faster?? If they are speeding, the police will deal with them.Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:My advice to drivers is :
don't pay too much attention on tailgaters, cos they don't even deserve your attention on them, it's not wrong to drive at 90 on lane 1, u kenna tailgate by doing so, just concentrate on your view in front and ignore the tailgater, they don't dare to bang you one, even if they dare, they are at the losing end if a collision occur, let them pay for your car damage ..if they are in a hurry, that's their problem...the crux of it is always maintain your reasonable speed and don't exceed the limit...
there are always troublemakers and bad hats on every road who like to challenge the law, don't give in to them, instead, let the traffic police subdue them
It might not be every car speeding is of some important reason, but if you ever block one and only one car which really a life and death matters, hope god bless you. Because of "I am right cos I am at the speed limit so I can stay at lane 1" and causes someone life?? I hope that it doesn't have to happen to you for you to realize.
I actually cant understand your thinking. I always give way to the car behind who wants to go faster even I'm at 170 or 180 on NS highway. If you cant go faster than them, just let them pass you, it wont hurt. And always I can see Spore car having this Mr Tomas style of thinking, travel 110 on the rifgt lane without giving way even condition permits, so the car behind had to overtake from the left.
This only reflex on the personality of Mr Tomas, maybe to him, if he is right, nothings else matters. I pity for you sir, hopefully you dont pass this thought to yr kids if by chances you do have any. In life, its not just "I follows rules so I am right and I dont care about others". Its not just courtesy, it also reflex what kind of ppl you are. -
As i've said, we must not give in to other's frustrations cos this way, we indulge in other's convenience too easily. Rightfully speaking, drivers themselves ought to know that once they are in a frantic situation and in a need to rush, they shouldn't be on the roads cos their presence will pose a menace to the safety of other road users. I can assure you that for an irritated and impatient driver who just want to get from Point A to Point B in a shortest possible time, he is selfishly expecting the public to indulge in his convenience and to him, all the slower vehicles in front of him are labelled as "road hoggers" obstructing his progress.Originally posted by coolblue6699:Dear Sir, I know you are not wrong, you are right, very right and the law is on yr side; you are so perfect but only in the eye of the law. Does it hurt you if you are to move to the side and give way to the car behide you who wants to go faster?? If they are speeding, the police will deal with them.
It might not be every car speeding is of some important reason, but if you ever block one and only one car which really a life and death matters, hope god bless you. Because of "I am right cos I am at the speed limit so I can stay at lane 1" and causes someone life?? I hope that it doesn't have to happen to you for you to realize.
I actually cant understand your thinking. I always give way to the car behind who wants to go faster even I'm at 170 or 180 on NS highway. If you cant go faster than them, just let them pass you, it wont hurt. And always I can see Spore car having this Mr Tomas style of thinking, travel 110 on the rifgt lane without giving way even condition permits, so the car behind had to overtake from the left.
This only reflex on the personality of Mr Tomas, maybe to him, if he is right, nothings else matters. I pity for you sir, hopefully you dont pass this thought to yr kids if by chances you do have any. In life, its not just "I follows rules so I am right and I dont care about others". Its not just courtesy, it also reflex what kind of ppl you are.
And again, do not readily believe every vehicle travelling way beyond the stipulated speed is compelled by life and death circumstances. May i refer you to the thread titled "What's the maximum speed you have driven in Singapore" under the car forums, by Mr "lovetospeed" and you will be horrified to find out that there certainly exists those morons thrill seekers who speed and tailgate just for fun. Do go into this topic and read about how these young chaps brag and boost about their top speed and their car performance. Please, for goodness sake, do be a bit more skeptical about speeding vehicles. Life and death circumstances??? My foot! Don't be naive. How often do you think life and death scenarios occur on sg roads.
To me, it's more likely that the idiot driver overslept and needs to get to his workplace on time for fear of being late, and this selfish chap is blaming the general public for causing his delay and expecting them to indulge in his convenience???? C'mon, we are all aware that young chaps these days love to speed just for the thrill and on every friday and saturday evenings, you see most cars zooming beyond 90 along the expressways towards town area and u really think they are rushing to the hospitals.?? Stop deceiving yourself, surely you know they are rushing to meet their friends in dinners, movies, pubs, discos etc after receiving loads of phonecalls and sms messages like "OOiiii!!! why so late??? what time u coming??? quick lah!!! we are all starving and waiting for you leh!!! you must come here fast so that they can serve the dishes leh!!!" So you are telling us we ought to indulge in their convenience by giving way to them????
And as a matter of fact, who are you to bring courtesy into the picture where our drivers, on the whole, don't even bother to signal properly when changing lanes and making turns. Go teach that basic courtesy of signalling to them first before you talk about giving way to vehicle wanting to overtake you.
I'm not insisting i'm right and the law is on my side but it's just that i follow the law and the law is rightly enforced and it can never be bent. I'm not encouraging you guys to road hog but i'm trying to convince you that road-hogging on the roads is inevitable.
Even if we are compelled by life and death situation, a smart person will know he won't get anything out of speeding and tailgating. He should anticipate there will always be slower moving vehicles impeding his progress and causing his delay. Out of sheer frustration, to this poor desperate guy in a hurry, those vehicles in front of him will only be nuisance to him. I hope you guys realize that's the cruelty of life and "road hogging" is inevitable.
Apart from expressways, i'm sure u guys know on normal roads, there are traffic lights every 500m. What's the point of driving as fast as possible and forcing the front vehicle to give way when after you make an exit from the expressway, u still have to stop when approaching a red light. Will you be cursing the traffic light as "selfsh road hogger"? Are you wishing that the red traffic light will spare a thought on your "life and death" predicament and give way to you by turning green immediately??
I am not being cynical by not believing that speeding vehicles are forced to do so by critical cirumstances but it's a fact that we can also think of hundred other reasons for impatient driving and tailgating. Other than shifting the blame to the road hogger for causing the delay which result in a life lost, why don't attribute the delay to destiny, everything is all destined and we have to accept it.
The frequent heavy volume of traffic in singapore shall constantly remind us to anticipate traffic congestions and delays and give sufficient time buffer to get to our destination. There is no excuse for claiming that you are in a hurry and therefore this warrants you the right to speed and tailgate, and the front vehicle should always give way to you. We cannot indulge in those drivers who fail to plan their journey time adequately well and expecting every vehicle to give way to them, this will only make them take such "courtesy" for granted, and once they are deprived of such courteous privileges, they will lose their cool and think the public owe them a favour. -
ok...ok...ok....so u drivers now want to start a war?here some ways to activate it....
1:to teach road hoggers a lesson,overtake them then drive slower than him and wait for them to react.
2:to teach tailgaters a lesson,jam ur brakes and let them get the shock out of their lives.
either ways,the most happy ppl is the TP.got job to do liao....... -
eh go fvck yourself la...wad road hogging is careful driving....its a nuisance....periodOriginally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:wake up your idea, road hogging itself won't cause accident. Cos road hogging is careful driving. Tailgating is impatient, risky and dangerous driving. Traffic accident happens because the rear vehicle fail to keep a safe distance to avoid banging into the front vehicle, not because the front vehicle is travelling slower than the rear vehicle. Go ask your father -
that i agree...if i see his car on the road I'm gonna go right in front of him and drive 50km/h...see if he tailgates me...if so i'll jam the brakes....my car already has a small dent at the back...another one makes no difference...Originally posted by NAMELESS WONDER:ok...ok...ok....so u drivers now want to start a war?here some ways to activate it....
1:to teach road hoggers a lesson,overtake them then drive slower than him and wait for them to react.
2:to teach tailgaters a lesson,jam ur brakes and let them get the shock out of their lives.
either ways,the most happy ppl is the TP.got job to do liao....... -
You are trying to tell us, for the past 11 yrs i did not ever drive a vehicle since u got your license?? i can understand...Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:Sorry, My records is so far clean, never kenna demerit points for 11 years. also never kenna accidents before
dumb drivers are those who kenna nab by traffic police before and donate money to them haha
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aiya...no point talking abt this anymore....tomas say its not wrong NOT to give way...let it be....at least we know...next time in mrt or buses..pple that nv let their seats to old pple or pple wif baby...must be him or his children...coz same mentality...dun give up seats not against the law mah...police dun catch...as stated in his eariler post..he say he travel at 70-80 in lane 1 on 90 road..police dun catch so he dun even give way to faster cars..
Pedestrian can cross the road as n when they like..coz if u knock them...u r wrong...not their fault....same mentality as tomas...pple tailgate i jam brake...they pay..not my fault..coz they nv keep safe distance..LOL mr tomas,u wan sg to be like that?
Sometimes is not abt against the Law or not....its abt how pple think....
DO u know sg have a law abt noise level...but when pple have funeral or malay wedding,police also close 1 eye....
Do u remember of a case reported in ST that a TP escorting a car that was speeding to the hospital...becoz he was ferrying someone to the hospital..
Anyway..its up to u....better to give way...juz my 2 cents worth..