If ur got 1 chance to attempt the devil's bend
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how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share? -
if i am approaching the bend at 150km/h, i'd jam brake and slow down till 30km/h. after that, i'll drive down to the nearest fast food joint to have my breakfast.
i don't wish to eat candles and insense just yet. -
Originally posted by dibilo:if i am approaching the bend at 150km/h, i'd jam brake and slow down till 30km/h. after that, i'll drive down to the nearest fast food joint to have my breakfast.
i don't wish to eat candles and insense just yet.
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U got a license yet?? driving at 150km/h?? you must be joking??
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devil bend is 99 wan ?
how to get there ah ?
i try go north & south buona vista rd find
but cannot find ley -
You are an utterly repulsive little SOB. I have never in my life met anyone as ridiculously hypocritical as you are at this moment. Not just that, earn your rights before you shoot of your lion (pronounced "lyin") mouth. And I'm referring to your licence as well (which of course I bet you are incapable of attaining).Originally posted by olala:how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share?
On a side note, in the words of The Rock, "shut your mouth and know your role, Jabroni."
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just keep going as fast as you can and pray that you dont end up dead...
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sooner or later, he'll beOriginally posted by udontknowme:just keep going as fast as you can and pray that you dont end up dead...
we'll all be -
huh????Originally posted by mystiv:sooner or later, he'll be
we'll all be
either im so dead that i have no idea what you are talking about, or...
i just have no idea what you are talking about...
i dont make sense at all... -
1 side u toking bout speeding is wrong and should get pity one side u toking bout how to tackle bend.... btw grow up la... when u drift u dun apply brake while drifting... this is a no no... have u ever drive a FR before??? btw... wad is the difference between throttle and step on gas?? is'nt it the same??Originally posted by olala:how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share? -
its at old upper thompson rdOriginally posted by vincentchean:devil bend is 99 wan ?
how to get there ah ?
i try go north & south buona vista rd find
but cannot find ley -
surprisingly at 150km you aren't caught.....seems like the traffic police should put in some more effort in their surveilance......
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Exit SLE towards upper thomson road (Ang Mo Kio) theres a junction stating Old Upper Thomson Road.Originally posted by vincentchean:devil bend is 99 wan ?
how to get there ah ?
i try go north & south buona vista rd find
but cannot find ley
The place is overrated, its no biggie IMHO. If you drive smoothly ; lets say at 75- 85km/h; its pretty safe.
Advise those 1st timers to constantly flash their headlights in the night if you're approaching blind corners; just to warn incoming motorists.
And for Heaven's sakes, assuming most of us drive FWD cars, if you were to brake at 150km/h before you proceed into a tight corner your wheels will most likely lock which will results in understeer. And then your car goes straight into the barrier down into the forest. -
drop gear for wat.......at 150km/hr...i find it no kick to make the turn...normally, i'll either further it to 250km/hr or i reverse my gear.....Originally posted by olala:how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share? -
unless turning into old upper thomson dat time speed is abt 80kmh, or car si bei kan zhai, quite unlikely to hit 150 before e 1st bend. which is abt 300m from turning in point at casuarina..Originally posted by dcx:drop gear for wat.......at 150km/hr...i find it no kick to make the turn...normally, i'll either further it to 250km/hr or i reverse my gear..... -
Originally posted by zgim80:unless turning into old upper thomson dat time speed is abt 80kmh, or car si bei kan zhai, quite unlikely to hit 150 before e 1st bend. which is abt 300m from turning in point at casuarina..
where the h3ll is this devil's bend actually...... -
from yr technique i can tell u u're going to crash. all jerky and rough.Originally posted by olala:how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share?
give the wheel a full jerk? brake halfway in the curve? dun make me laugh pls. That'll only upset the balance of the car.
1stly, what car are u assuming u're in?
Personally, assuming im approaching it at 150km/h and im in a 4WD sportscar, I would most likely have a braking point picked out aready. I would be in 4th gear or possibly 3rd. Seeing as Devil's Bend is an off camber turn, and I'm in a 4WD car, I might go for a late apex approach as I am expecting understeer under acceleration. If I'm taking a middle apex I would take entry speed to be around 80km/, depending on the car's traction. Personally I would still opt for a late apex approach, with an entry speed of perhaps 60km/h, but gaining the ability to start accelerating earlier.
With a neutral apex approach, assuming in 4th, I would brake with my right foot. Assuming I'm in 3rd, I would brake with my left. if in 4th gear I would have to downshift to 3rd before entry(hence braking with right foot). If in 3rd, I won't downshift. I would then depend on left foot braking to keep the understeer in check.
Personally since I prefer a late apex approach, I will downshift to 2nd, whether im in 3rd or 4th. turn the car in at about 60, get it straightened out as early as possible and accelerate out of the turn, ideally upshifting into 3rd after performing most of the turn just before I take my late apex. Due to the shallower trajectory of a late apex approach, although turn in speed is lower, as the tyres don't need as much emphasis on lateral grip, and can accept a higher radial load, thus enabling a higher rate of acceleration, I expect to be able to exit the corner faster, accelerating harder. Point of acceleration can be before the apex, controlled with smoothness of the throttle inputs, not just stomping on it outright.
Aboveall, all transition in cornering phase has to be smooth, the turning of the wheel has to be smooth, any corrections should be in small smooth inputs. Big jerks of the wheel will just upset the balance of the car and slow u down.
And drifting this corner will most likely kill u, because its off camber. For a racer to successfully negotiate a corner at high speed, he or she must 1st be able to assess its properties. technique-wise, u have a long way to go before u should even think about tackling this corner. My advice to u is: don't.
btw, devil's bend is not a U bend. its approx 135 degrees, as shown:
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from yr technique i can tell u u're going to crash. all jerky and rough.Originally posted by olala:how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share?
give the wheel a full jerk? brake halfway in the curve? dun make me laugh pls. That'll only upset the balance of the car.
1stly, what car are u assuming u're in?
Personally, assuming im approaching it at 150km/h and im in a 4WD sportscar, I would most likely have a braking point picked out aready. I would be in 4th gear or possibly 3rd. Seeing as Devil's Bend is an off camber turn, and I'm in a 4WD car, I might go for a late apex approach as I am expecting understeer under acceleration. If I'm taking a middle apex I would take entry speed to be around 80km/, depending on the car's traction. Personally I would still opt for a late apex approach, with an entry speed of 60km/h, but gaining the ability to start accelerating earlier.
With a neutral apex approach, assuming in 4th, I would brake with my right foot. Assuming I'm in 3rd, I would brake with my left. if in 4th gear I would have to downshift to 3rd before entry(hence braking with right foot). If in 3rd, I won't downshift. I would then depend on left foot braking to keep the understeer in check.
Personally since I prefer a late apex approach, I will downshift to 2nd, whether im in 3rd or 4th. turn the car in at about 60, get it straightened out as early as possible and accelerate out of the turn, ideally upshifting into 3rd after performing most of the turn just before I take my late apex. Due to the shallower trajectory of a late apex approach, although turn in speed is lower, as the tyres don't need as much emphasis on lateral grip, and can accept a higher radial load, thus enabling a higher rate of acceleration, I expect to be able to exit the corner faster, accelerating harder.
Aboveall, all transition in cornering phase has to be smooth, the turning of the wheel has to be smooth, any corrections should be in small smooth inputs. Big jerks of the wheel will just upset the balance of the car and slow u down.
And drifting this corner will most likely kill u, because its off camber. For a racer to successfully negotiate a corner at high speed, he or she must 1st be able to assess its properties. technique-wise, u have a long way to go before u should even think about tackling this corner. My advice to u is: don't.
btw, devil's bend is not a U bend. its approx 135 degrees, as seen above -
as a disclaimer i would advise anyone here not to do it. sometimes groups of cyclists go there to cycle, and its easy to knock over a cyclist coming out of a blind corner.
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hMz....from the pix...it's not quite a dangerous bend actually...is it?Originally posted by HENG@:from yr technique i can tell u u're going to crash. all jerky and rough.
give the wheel a full jerk? brake halfway in the curve? dun make me laugh pls. That'll only upset the balance of the car.
1stly, what car are u assuming u're in?
Personally, assuming im approaching it at 150km/h and im in a 4WD sportscar, I would most likely have a braking point picked out aready. I would be in 4th gear or possibly 3rd. Seeing as Devil's Bend is an off camber turn, and I'm in a 4WD car, I might go for a late apex approach as I am expecting understeer under acceleration. If I'm taking a middle apex I would take entry speed to be around 80km/, depending on the car's traction. Personally I would still opt for a late apex approach, with an entry speed of 60km/h, but gaining the ability to start accelerating earlier.
With a neutral apex approach, assuming in 4th, I would brake with my right foot. Assuming I'm in 3rd, I would brake with my left. if in 4th gear I would have to downshift to 3rd before entry(hence braking with right foot). If in 3rd, I won't downshift. I would then depend on left foot braking to keep the understeer in check.
Personally since I prefer a late apex approach, I will downshift to 2nd, whether im in 3rd or 4th. turn the car in at about 60, get it straightened out as early as possible and accelerate out of the turn, ideally upshifting into 3rd after performing most of the turn just before I take my late apex. Due to the shallower trajectory of a late apex approach, although turn in speed is lower, as the tyres don't need as much emphasis on lateral grip, and can accept a higher radial load, thus enabling a higher rate of acceleration, I expect to be able to exit the corner faster, accelerating harder.
Aboveall, all transition in cornering phase has to be smooth, the turning of the wheel has to be smooth, any corrections should be in small smooth inputs. Big jerks of the wheel will just upset the balance of the car and slow u down.
And drifting this corner will most likely kill u, because its off camber. For a racer to successfully negotiate a corner at high speed, he or she must 1st be able to assess its properties. technique-wise, u have a long way to go before u should even think about tackling this corner. My advice to u is: don't.
btw, devil's bend is not a U bend. its approx 135 degrees, as shown: -
from the pix, u can't tell, but its off-camber.Originally posted by dcx:hMz....from the pix...it's not quite a dangerous bend actually...is it?
Treat ALL off-camber corners with respect. -
simi si off camber?Originally posted by HENG@:from the pix, u can't tell, but its off-camber.
Treat ALL off-camber corners with respect. -
off-camber, or negative camber corner:Originally posted by dcx:simi si off camber?
a corner where the road surface slopes downwards in the direction of the outside radius of the bend.
i try to see if i can find some illustrating example.
noticable off camber:
off camber corner on a racetrack:
a good example of a positive camber (opposite of a off camber), the Karussel corner of the old 'Ring:
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Aiyo.. who u trying to kid.. kids?? I better call ur mom.. ground you from watching cartoons!Originally posted by olala:how ya gonna tame it?
given ur appoarching it at 150km/hr
hw ya gonna tackle the U bend?
B4 the 2.sec or so b4 apporaching,i'll drop to 3rd gear
and b4 the actual turning,i wuld have turn the car so that it'll tumble down the clift,earlier turning allows the car to drift wifout falling..
hafway in the curve,applyy brakes and give the wheel a full jerk[twice]
this wuld prevent the front from seering out too much to avoid crashing or tumbling down hill
after that,apply more throttle and step on gas
juz wat i wuld odp if given a chance,what wuld u guys do?
share?
And for those wif real cars.. why risk there? even if u can take perfect lines.. its still public road.. with cyclist, joggers and on coming traffic.. Lets not have AMK AVE 1 kinda news on ZB too often ok?
Have "Need for SPEED??" go track lor.. RM70 onli.. I'm sure u car owners can afford that?! Wanna proof u have BIG balls and FAST cars? Go track take highspeed corners at 200km/h lor.. Proof your speed with lap times.. not how fast u enter the corner.. the above joker claim to approach at 150km/h.. but b4 turn.. maybe brake till 30km/h.. proof wat? tok onli mah.. anyone watch cartoon also can tok.. "drift" thru devils bend.. MY FOOT! -
specifically.....Originally posted by siaokao:Aiyo.. who u trying to kid.. kids?? I better call ur mom.. ground you from watching cartoons..
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