Illegal to use rear sunblind.?
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Dear Friends,everbody knows today is a hot sunny day,my dad used the rear sunblind[comes with the Camry],stopped by T.P.,the T.P. said rear sunblind is not allowed while driving because it block the car behind us its view...no fine is given this time,the T.P. told my dad the next time caught will fine $50....why.?my dad just wants me to enjoy cooler A/C...but not allowed to do so.!!!
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Write about how unfair it is for VANS with no windows at the rear of the van or for vans with goods filled to the brim blocking the read window to be allowed and yet ur father was fined. or something like that.
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Well 161 viewer of this forum with only 1 reply.?Nobody knows anything about rear sunblind.????
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rear sunblinds are not allowed on the rear windscreens of cars/vans. no amount of lobbying would change the rules so do not waste your efforts.
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i would put it sun blind is no different from solar film so long the min visible light transmission is not met, it wont be allowed.
why compare van with a car. van got 60km/h sticker a car want it?
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Only know that it's illegal to block the rear view but nothing on having a rear sunblind is...
There are some vans, saloon cars, hatchbacks with sunblinds mounted on the rear windows... So best to consult LTA on this... -
do not write to spf..they will only give u standard replies...write to ST forum...let them explain in public...quote the reason why vans without rear windscreen is allowed and not sun blind...
By posting your predicament in ST forum, it will also allow other car owners to view and mabe even lobby towards their nonsensical double standard rulings...i agreed the rulings are becoming more outrageous nowadays... -
As long as it comes fitted by manufacturer chances are that it's alright.
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i fitted those static blinds on the rear windscreen of my car... and was given warning to remove them after inspection + written warning note on result sheet to remove within 7 days
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If you are a driver yourself, touch your heart and ask yourself whether those blinds will affect driving safety. You know the answer.
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I can't see the rear properly thro the mirror la.. And i nv want to drive with those blinds behind anymore... freggin dangerous....Originally posted by freakass:If you are a driver yourself, touch your heart and ask yourself whether those blinds will affect driving safety. You know the answer. -
There is no where in the LTA rules that stipulates the use of rear sunshades. Besides, it is not opaque and will not obscure your view being semi transparent. ROV officers are getting high handed given that they are paid on commission now.Originally posted by veron soh:Dear Friends,everbody knows today is a hot sunny day,my dad used the rear sunblind[comes with the Camry],stopped by T.P.,the T.P. said rear sunblind is not allowed while driving because it block the car behind us its view...no fine is given this time,the T.P. told my dad the next time caught will fine $50....why.?my dad just wants me to enjoy cooler A/C...but not allowed to do so.!!!
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The answer is NO.Originally posted by freakass:If you are a driver yourself, touch your heart and ask yourself whether those blinds will affect driving safety. You know the answer.
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Singapore's transport laws maciam for play one lah.. u think those ROV ppl know anything abt cars meh
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Mind u, they know an EVO, WRX and Civic inside out. Try #27, 4 and 34.Originally posted by CSM:Singapore's transport laws maciam for play one lah.. u think those ROV ppl know anything abt cars meh
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As long as the material is not transparent, it will obscure the driver's view, be it semi-transparent, translucent or opaque. Please go check up the meaning of the work obscure.Originally posted by Anti_AhSiah:There is no where in the LTA rules that stipulates the use of rear sunshades. Besides, it is not opaque and will not obscure your view being semi transparent. ROV officers are getting high handed given that they are paid on commission now.
Road safety is of utmost importance. We value everybody's life. And there is absolutely no way that we should allow the use of rear sunblinds while driving just because some people "think" that they can still drive safely with those things affecting their rear view. -
be very careful on your accusations about any gov officers. unlike some other countries, no officers can go above the law and get away. u wanna try?Originally posted by Anti_AhSiah:There is no where in the LTA rules that stipulates the use of rear sunshades. Besides, it is not opaque and will not obscure your view being semi transparent. ROV officers are getting high handed given that they are paid on commission now.
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What do u mean above law? U know what u are talking?
Do you know how the LTA/ROV system works?
Are u threatening me? Try what?Originally posted by sir_boris:be very careful on your accusations about any gov officers. unlike some other countries, no officers can go above the law and get away. u wanna try? -
Since u talk like a good two shoe, pray tell, why in the first place, was the sun shade installed as a stock item in Lexus and Camrys? How do u define OBSCURE? People like you THINK you cant see cause you got some myopia problems. Unless you can explain why LTA has approved it in the first place, your argument is flawed right from the beginning. Enough said. And dont teach me anything about value of life or everybody's life. If u do, go pick on every god damn van driver and ask them not to conceal their rear windscreen.
Nuff said.Originally posted by freakass:As long as the material is not transparent, it will obscure the driver's view, be it semi-transparent, translucent or opaque. Please go check up the meaning of the work obscure.
Road safety is of utmost importance. We value everybody's life. And there is absolutely no way that we should allow the use of rear sunblinds while driving just because some people "think" that they can still drive safely with those things affecting their rear view. -
Why are you talking about the sun shade when everyone else is referring to the sunblind? Are you so intellectually challenged that you cant differentiate between the two?Originally posted by Anti_AhSiah:Since u talk like a good two shoe, pray tell, why in the first place, was the sun shade installed as a stock item in Lexus and Camrys? How do u define OBSCURE? People like you THINK you cant see cause you got some myopia problems. Unless you can explain why LTA has approved it in the first place, your argument is flawed right from the beginning. Enough said. And dont teach me anything about value of life or everybody's life. If u do, go pick on every god damn van driver and ask them not to conceal their rear windscreen.
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i quote from the LTA guidelines in ONE.Motoring:Originally posted by Anti_AhSiah:There is no where in the LTA rules that stipulates the use of rear sunshades. Besides, it is not opaque and will not obscure your view being semi transparent. ROV officers are getting high handed given that they are paid on commission now.
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modification_guide/modification_allowed.html#MainPar_0064
Sunshades
"The following requirements must be met when installing sunshades:
a) No part of the sunshades shall be affixed:
- more than 6 inches (150mm) from the top edge of the front windscreen.
- more than 4 inches (100mm) from the top edge of the rear windscreen and side windows.
b) Graphics and words shall not appear in any way pornographic, obscene or vulgar. They also must not be seditious or affront any religious belief."
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Yes, these items are installed as stock items in some cars, but in case you did not read the TS's first post properly, the TP said the use of sunshade/sunblind is not allowed WHILE DRIVING. This boils down to the driver's responsiblity, not the manufacturer, dealer or LTA. You heard of the recent case of a boy knocked down by a lorry? Yeah, no rear view at all but he could've sent his delivery buddy or ask anyone to guide him while reversing from outside the vehicle... that's standard SAF procedure too. Maybe you haven't even noticed that the number of vans on the roads with their rear screens blocked almost entirely with opaque sunshades/blinds have dropped dramatically.Originally posted by Anti_AhSiah:Since u talk like a good two shoe, pray tell, why in the first place, was the sun shade installed as a stock item in Lexus and Camrys? How do u define OBSCURE? People like you THINK you cant see cause you got some myopia problems. Unless you can explain why LTA has approved it in the first place, your argument is flawed right from the beginning. Enough said. And dont teach me anything about value of life or everybody's life. If u do, go pick on every god damn van driver and ask them not to conceal their rear windscreen.
Nuff said.
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This refer to the sticker type dumb ass. Those that people stick on the front or sometimes rear windscreen. I am talking about the automated ones.
So dont teach me what you dont know.Originally posted by tomsss:
i quote from the LTA guidelines in ONE.Motoring:
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/lta_information_guidelines/modification_guide/modification_allowed.html#MainPar_0064
Sunshades
"The following requirements must be met when installing sunshades:
a) [b]No part of the sunshades shall be affixed:
- more than 6 inches (150mm) from the top edge of the front windscreen.
- more than 4 inches (100mm) from the top edge of the rear windscreen and side windows.
b) Graphics and words shall not appear in any way pornographic, obscene or vulgar. They also must not be seditious or affront any religious belief."
What have you got to say now?
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Smart arse. Small wonder why an ass is a freak. From an English point of view, both are almost the same, It is one perspectives that decides what is what.
Bugger off, freako.Originally posted by freakass:Why are you talking about the sun shade when everyone else is referring to the sunblind? Are you so intellectually challenged that you cant differentiate between the two? -
You are entitled to your view and so am I. I am deem what you have penned as utter rubbish too. Have you got stats to say that the # of Van with sun shades are down? It is purely YOUR OWN observation. TP does not say whatever is ILLEGAL. It is ROV aka LTA. Get your facts right.
SAF protocol is right when a vehicle is large and you cannot see the rear. Unless u are a kam gong driver, have ur wife or gf guide u when u reverse park.Originally posted by tomsss:
Yes, these items are installed as stock items in some cars, but in case you did not read the TS's first post properly, the TP said the use of sunshade/sunblind is not allowed [b]WHILE DRIVING. This boils down to the driver's responsiblity, not the manufacturer, dealer or LTA. You heard of the recent case of a boy knocked down by a lorry? Yeah, no rear view at all but he could've sent his delivery buddy or ask anyone to guide him while reversing from outside the vehicle... that's standard SAF procedure too. Maybe you haven't even noticed that the number of vans on the roads with their rear screens blocked almost entirely with opaque sunshades/blinds have dropped dramatically.
So watch your words before you shoot loose cannon balls of rubbish at anyone.[/b]