Why are cars so expensive in singapore?
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
Scroll up and read my post again and respond accordingly.
no... YOU read my posts accordingly...
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
sigh.. teaming up in losing situations...like what most cowards do...
and what a lousy counterpart in fatone....
who talks nonsense most of the time...
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Originally posted by n0x:
sigh.. teaming up in losing situations...like what most cowards do...
and what a lousy counterpart in fatone....
who talks nonsense most of the time...
found your peekture btw
looking good tubby
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Originally posted by fatone:
found your peekture btw
looking good tubby
cheap shots now eh...
help ur friend eh...
very mature i must say...
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Originally posted by n0x:
cheap shots now eh...
help ur friend eh...
very mature i must say...
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When people resort to ad hominem attacks, you know what the reason is.
Anyway, mauz, reason your own cut-and-paste carefully. The Wiki article is about SAR...and if you want to compare the urbanised areas properly, then look at Kowloon. It's there in the quote.
They may not have COEs but it's more troublesome to drive up and down hilly terrain, public transport is good enough and, get this, not everyone lives and works on the same island.
You might want to scroll down in the Wiki article and read the articles on public transportation, the bridge tolls (this is not between 2 countries as in our case, mind you) and the number of cars that use them daily.
You might actually notice that there are trams in the city, and how dense and interconnected the rail network is, among other things. Can our public transport system compare?
So why would they need to control the vehicle population via bidding, when other factors are able to keep it in check?
Oh, and so what if vehicle prices were lower back then too - were salaries sufficient to afford one then? COEs were introduced as the economy started to boom.
And a little known fact that can actually be Googled is that COE and ARF can be waivered for handicapped drivers (which I don't think is enough - people whom the disabled are dependent on for transport shuld also be entitled to it).
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Get the $2 COE...
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sigh.... This topic has degenerated from cars to government conspiracies to Car Parking rates to Personal Attacks.
what a monster topic I have created...
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nox
It amuses me how you, suddenly being a "carpark expert" decide to run Speakers' Corner down.
Get a life, you fucktard imbecile, darn motherfucking shit of all mankind
. Ok bro, chill chill, that part just kidding haha.Come contribute to Speakers' Corner and let's see what you've got. If not, don't talk too big for your shoes yeh. Speakers' Corner is just one of the alternative voices to mainstream media. Cheers.
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Originally posted by Kuali Baba:
When people resort to ad hominem attacks, you know what the reason is.
Anyway, mauz, reason your own cut-and-paste carefully. The Wiki article is about SAR...and if you want to compare the urbanised areas properly, then look at Kowloon. It's there in the quote.
They may not have COEs but it's more troublesome to drive up and down hilly terrain, public transport is good enough and, get this, not everyone lives and works on the same island.
You might want to scroll down in the Wiki article and read the articles on public transportation, the bridge tolls (this is not between 2 countries as in our case, mind you) and the number of cars that use them daily.
You might actually notice that there are trams in the city, and how dense and interconnected the rail network is, among other things. Can our public transport system compare?
So why would they need to control the vehicle population via bidding, when other factors are able to keep it in check?
Oh, and so what if vehicle prices were lower back then too - were salaries sufficient to afford one then? COEs were introduced as the economy started to boom.
And a little known fact that can actually be Googled is that COE and ARF can be waivered for handicapped drivers (which I don't think is enough - people whom the disabled are dependent on for transport shuld also be entitled to it).
Whether Hong Kong or Singapore public transportation is a subject of speculation by you, unless you have done an unbias research into the transportation system of both countries, how can one conclude that Hong Kong has a more efficient transporation system. Do you have any conclusive research?
Whether Kowloon be more urbanised than the whole of Hong Kong is quite irrelevant, because we are comparing countries per se and not comparing Kowloon with Seng Kang.
Just to enforce my point about Hong Kong SAR being more mountainous than Singapore, therefore less roads in Hong Kong as compared to Singapore.
Hong Kong SAR
Hong Kong Island = 385.11km
Kowloon and New Kowloon = 399.11km
New Territories = 961.16km
Total Road Length for Hong Kong = 1,745km
Singapore
Expressways = 153km
Arterial Roads = 613km
Collector Roads = 489km
Local Access Roads = 2,042km
Total Road Length for Singapore = 3,297km
You can choose not to believe in these numbers or sidetrack, it's your prerogative, but it does reflect on yourself.
Salaries are indeed more than sufficient to pay for a car then, it just depends on what kind of salary one is getting, else nobody would have own car during that period.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
nox
It amuses me how you, suddenly being a "carpark expert" decide to run Speakers' Corner down.
Get a life, you fucktard imbecile, darn motherfucking shit of all mankind
. Ok bro, chill chill, that part just kidding haha.Come contribute to Speakers' Corner and let's see what you've got. If not, don't talk too big for your shoes yeh. Speakers' Corner is just one of the alternative voices to mainstream media. Cheers.
did i run speakers corner down??
i juz run down a couple of low life losers over there...
sure it provides an alternative for suppressed voices.... or discontented voices or whatever u put it..
sure there are circumstances whereby i disagree with what the govt is doing..
but some of the losers there seriously critisize without any ounce of rationale in them...
ur this post shld be directed to some of the low lifes in speakers corner....
but hey why so defensive over some shitty speakers corner.... are u one of those lowlife mother fucker whose mother is a whore and dad's gay and cant make it in life and find the need to blame someone... and get green with envy over other pple's fortune... nah i am juz joking..
u can joke so can i right?? chill bro...
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Originally posted by maurizio13:
Whether Hong Kong or Singapore public transportation is a subject of speculation by you, unless you have done an unbias research into the transportation system of both countries, how can one conclude that Hong Kong has a more efficient transporation system. Do you have any conclusive research?
Whether Kowloon be more urbanised than the whole of Hong Kong is quite irrelevant, because we are comparing countries per se and not comparing Kowloon with Seng Kang.
Just to enforce my point about Hong Kong SAR being more mountainous than Singapore, therefore less roads in Hong Kong as compared to Singapore.
Hong Kong SAR
Hong Kong Island = 385.11km
Kowloon and New Kowloon = 399.11km
New Territories = 961.16km
Total Road Length for Hong Kong = 1,745km
Singapore
Expressways = 153km
Arterial Roads = 613km
Collector Roads = 489km
Local Access Roads = 2,042km
Total Road Length for Singapore = 3,297km
You can choose not to believe in these numbers or sidetrack, it's your prerogative, but it does reflect on yourself.
Salaries are indeed more than sufficient to pay for a car then, it just depends on what kind of salary one is getting, else nobody would have own car during that period.
Speak for yourself.
First, bask in the irrelevance and pointlessness of this answer:
Salaries are indeed more than sufficient to pay for a car then, it just depends on what kind of salary one is getting, else nobody would have own car during that period.
I don't have figures on travelling and waiting times for HK public transport (try the Bus and Train forums), but do you have figures to substantiate that just as much of the population back then could afford a car?
Some common sense however would tell you what salaries and jobs many Singaporeans had in the past, and that alternative means of getting around also play a part in keeping the necessity of private car ownership low.
By the way, a section (with citations from the South China Morning Post) of the Wiki article states that:
Cars are subjected to a first-time registration tax, which varies from 35% to over 100%, based on the size and value of the car. The level of vehicle taxation was increased by a law passed on 2 June 1982 to discourage private car ownership,[3] and also as an incentive to buy smaller, more efficient cars, as these have less tax levied on them. First-time registration tax was doubled, annual licensing fees were increased by 300%, and $0.7 duty was imposed on each litre of on light oils.[4]
I do not know at which stage and how frequently these are paid, or whether the price you quoted from the HK Honda website includes everything (I can't read the fine print).
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putting vulgarity jokes on other's father & mother is despicable. You are the lowest of all low shit life. Get a life, loser of all loser
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Originally posted by Aceone10:
putting vulgarity jokes on other’s father & mother is despicable. You are the lowest of all low shit life. Get a life, loser of all loser
no u are wrong... scolding people on the pretext that it is a joke.. and the coming back as a clone to scold the person after a few days... i think tt's a new low... hahaha -
I think u really need a life, my fren. Dun take life too seriously. Cheers.
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you are a real nut and gone case. argue for the purpose of arguing, attachment for the purpose of attaching cos it is better for arguement. fact is watever u attached is only 1 out of a million information where u took it as a bible. get a life loser, dont always assume u are right. Maybe u mistaken me as some other forumer and it only show how low u are jumping into conclusion and insist u are right. how far can u go... I dont really bothered by this Hong kong vs sg argument by ur stupid self as it doesnt really bother me at all. So what if SG is cheaper then Hong Kong?? I still pay alot for it. So loser, please get a life.
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Originally posted by Rock^Star:
I think u really need a life, my fren. Dun take life too seriously. Cheers.
i think YOU need a life...instead of posting in sgfourms like ur life and ego depends on it...
dun take too life seriously.. like u?? hahah... thanks but no thanks.. i have a future infront of me...
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Originally posted by Aceone10:
you are a real nut and gone case. argue for the purpose of arguing, attachment for the purpose of attaching cos it is better for arguement. fact is watever u attached is only 1 out of a million information where u took it as a bible. get a life loser, dont always assume u are right. Maybe u mistaken me as some other forumer and it only show how low u are jumping into conclusion and insist u are right. how far can u go… I dont really bothered by this Hong kong vs sg argument by ur stupid self as it doesnt really bother me at all. So what if SG is cheaper then Hong Kong?? I still pay alot for it. So loser, please get a life.
firstly... let me say.. if u cant afford parking and other car misc fees.. dun drive.. dun ngeh ngeh still want to drive and then come here and complain say u pay a lot for it and when pple say hong kong is more expensive... u go and shoot the person
what's more... the argument is not directed at u...
and i am not arguing for the purpose of arguing.. he started the argument first... what i merely did was posted a few links... and this is what he asked me to do too....
and 1 out of a million information.. applicable to the other side too... jumping to conclusions?? haven read my links??? haven seen the stats?? and its a generally known fact.. like how their housing is much more expensive than ours... i have even spoken to a hong kong resident about this...
so who's the loser now??? who is arguing for the sake of arguing.. unsolicited somemore...
u shld get a life... or earn money so that u wun feel the pinch paying for parking... loser...
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ren sheng jiu xiang yi chang xi
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coz every single thing must pay..
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hey loser nOx, have you seen any post by me arguing the stupid thing you been arguing about? i spoke to lots of british does it means i can talk like I know England? spoken to a hong konger big f**k?? I mentioned I pay alot but did I say I cant afford it? Your stupid link are simply the link to a loser. Why do you have to post twice in 5 min? Cant swollow proven a moron.. now who is stupid and loser. You just proof yourself
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Originally posted by Aceone10:
hey loser nOx, have you seen any post by me arguing the stupid thing you been arguing about? i spoke to lots of british does it means i can talk like I know England? spoken to a hong konger big f**k?? I mentioned I pay alot but did I say I cant afford it? Your stupid link are simply the link to a loser. Why do you have to post twice in 5 min? Cant swollow proven a moron.. now who is stupid and loser. You just proof yourself
Hi Aceone10,we are all used to this joker anyway, thank you lol